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I listened to it and I think he's talking about "bitch" there, not the n-word, unless it comes up again later.
you might be right
The irony of him complaining about misogyny and then a minute later hoping that some women don’t speak their mind on stage is still too much for me though
Post by piggy pablo on Jan 13, 2022 12:47:50 GMT -5
Yeah, that part was mega cringe and the one guy finished the other guy's sentence with almost no context. They must have already talked before the show about how much they didn't want to hear about how war is bad.
I listened to it and I think he's talking about "bitch" there, not the n-word, unless it comes up again later.
you might be right
The irony of him complaining about misogyny and then a minute later hoping that some women don’t speak their mind on stage is still too much for me though
"Just shut up and play" music "fans" are the worst.
The irony of him complaining about misogyny and then a minute later hoping that some women don’t speak their mind on stage is still too much for me though
"Just shut up and play" music "fans" are the worst.
i still think about last summer when Black Sabbath made a BLM shirt and a bunch of the comments were about how they miss when bands weren’t political
Yeah Black “War Pigs” Sabbath, keep politics out of metal!
Post by 3post1jack1 on Jan 13, 2022 13:14:33 GMT -5
imo the whole "i don't want to hear politics at live performances thing" can have a lot of layers. i get that most of the time when someone is saying it its because the artist is saying something they disagree with and that makes them mad.
but if it's coming from a place of "live music is my escape and politics generally makes me unhappy/upset so i don't want to hear it during a show" i can at least understand that. hearing political stuff at live shows doesn't bother me personally, my day-to-day life is so filled with political reading, podcasts, etc. that i guess i've developed a thick skin about it.
i do think it's funny to specifically call out a group that said they didn't like a president like 20 years ago lol.
I had a boss years ago complain about seeing Neil Young and him getting too political. I was like “duh! He’s Neil Young” another one thats amazing is people complaining about Rage Against The Machine. That’s really hilarious and beautiful. Dummies… Love it!!!!
I personally don't mind if an act takes just a quick moment if they have something to say, even if I don't agree. Politics and music have been deeply intertwined since like, well, probably forever. Ugunto probably had something spicy to say about his tribal leader when he banged a few rocks together in a banger beat in 5,000 B.C.
If it becomes your whole "thing," then yeah, it becomes a problem. I'm kind of on the same wavelength as Rage Against the Machine, but if I weren't, I probably wouldn't have any interest in seeing them.
Post by Яun The Яoo on Jan 13, 2022 13:21:45 GMT -5
I just noticed that they added two new tiers to tickets (going back to the normal five) with GA costing up to $370 before fees. Glad I snagged at $299, probably what I would end up spending on a single ticket for Tool and Stevie.
The "stick to the music" crowd is always full of hypocrisy, and they always miss the point. To communicate important issues to a usually younger, less engaged crowd.
The "stick to the music" crowd is always full of hypocrisy, and they always miss the point. To communicate important issues to a usually younger, less engaged crowd.
yeah, i ignored that point in my post. there is certainly an argument that artists with a platform have a responsibility to communicate what they think is right.
it swings both ways though. i can't say i wouldn't get a little upset if right before "Moondance" Van Morrison said the vaccine will make your genitals pop off and fly around the room.
I had a boss years ago complain about seeing Neil Young and him getting too political. I was like “duh! He’s Neil Young” another one thats amazing is people complaining about Rage Against The Machine. That’s really hilarious and beautiful. Dummies… Love it!!!!
Or Roger Waters. Like wtf were you thinking when you jammed on Animals?
I listened to it and I think he's talking about "bitch" there, not the n-word, unless it comes up again later.
you might be right
The irony of him complaining about misogyny and then a minute later hoping that some women don’t speak their mind on stage is still too much for me though
Bingpot. Dollars to donuts he wouldn’t have made that comment if they were talking about, say, Bruce Springsteen
Eddie Vedder is a good example of someone who has always been political but has taken more of a directed activist role. There used to be a lot of candidate indifferent "get out the vote" preaching and 3rd party candidate activism - but in today's climate that doesn't really mean as much
I had a boss years ago complain about seeing Neil Young and him getting too political. I was like “duh! He’s Neil Young” another one thats amazing is people complaining about Rage Against The Machine. That’s really hilarious and beautiful. Dummies… Love it!!!!
Or Roger Waters. Like wtf were you thinking when you jammed on Animals?
Exactly!!! I had a coworker go off about Roger Waters a few years back. We both went to the same show and had two totally different experiences. I just laughed at him and said what did you expect? Side note, I’d freaking love it if he played Roo one day.
The "stick to the music" crowd is always full of hypocrisy, and they always miss the point. To communicate important issues to a usually younger, less engaged crowd.
They hate RATM but now they love it because...vaccines?
Like some folks. Packing up a car and driving for a half a day is more appealing than packing up a bunch of crap flying out. I'm sure if I were on the other side of the country I'd feel the same. Roo is also closer/easier for my friends. We still get to see good music, drink good beer, and hangout.
This is 100% why I'm always more eager to go back to Roo than go to Coachella. Even if Chella's lineup is 100x better, the best part of Roo is the 14 hour roadtrip with friends. And even though Coach is a camping festival, I don't really hear much from attendees about the campsite experience, whereas I feel like that's a big part of the Roo experience.
Eddie Vedder is a good example of someone who has always been political but has taken more of a directed activist role. There used to be a lot of candidate indifferent "get out the vote" preaching and 3rd party candidate activism - but in today's climate that doesn't really mean as much
i mean he definitely had some shit to say about trump at their 2016 Roo set
The "stick to the music" crowd is always full of hypocrisy, and they always miss the point. To communicate important issues to a usually younger, less engaged crowd.
yeah, i ignored that point in my post. there is certainly an argument that artists with a platform have a responsibility to communicate what they think is right.
it swings both ways though. i can't say i wouldn't get a little upset if right before "Moondance" Van Morrison said the vaccine will make your genitals pop off and fly around the room.
Thank you for bringing some honesty to this discussion, its very easy to say "you" don't mind politics being brought to live performances but lets be real that's because 99.9999% of people in music are liberal...if tomorrow it flipped there would be a whole lot of upset people who weren't yesterday.