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pretty sure rounds closed and the vote is you making a choice between tranter and silver right?
It is now. It wasn’t when I posted that. I was hoping Rummy would consider it, since she seems to be voicing suspicions on Silver as well. Guess I was wrong. Her vote remained on me WITH Silver. But it is me making a decision between Tranter and Potent, not Silver.
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pretty sure rounds closed and the vote is you making a choice between tranter and silver right?
It is now. It wasn’t when I posted that. I was hoping Rummy would consider it, since she seems to be voicing suspicions on Silver as well. Guess I was wrong. Her vote remained on me WITH Silver. But it is me making a decision between Tranter and Potent, not Silver.
LLL>>>>Tranter.
sorry I wasn’t very available around the close of round. I thought it was going forward as cum/tranter/potent when I last looked tbh
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We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
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and he gives us this little quote? LLL then jumps in, votes early and makes it so I can't get my revote in. Just seems like a panicked rush.
Anyway, the revotes go to me, Jortles, and Silver in a Silver / SFA runoff. I know that Silver is going to vote for himself so I vote for him and get to see where Jortles puts his vote. Jortles votes for Silver and I, once more, take away his revote power and switch to Silver after some group discussion.
it was callback to last game where I claimed certain folks were town. that’s what my response to Rummy was about as well. I actually do feel it’s likely we’re all 3 town but who knows.
Like if y’all want to vote me off here that’s fine. We have a huge deadline at work this week so I don’t have much time.
This is a reasonable defense but he was pressed on it twice before when he originally made the quote and didn't mention this. He only mentions it when he's in the final runoff.
Then we have SFA doing the "vote me off idc" bit which is a bit strange considering he cared the game enough to mess around with the runoff a day before:
is SFA's "i have a big deadline at work this week" the new "i'll be out in the FiElD" of yore from MD lol
I literally said vote me off because of it.. if y’all wanted. Lol. It’s not an excuse. It just is.
That's all I'll say about SFA. Some have said that a lot of this is normal. I don't know but this is how I've read it. I think if he's mafia then so is LLL.
Day 2
Rooloo gets whacked. Theo says Jortles is maf and that Rummy and MD are town.
Wanted to go through the Silver voters, since I'm almost certain he's town due to Jortles using his kill shot on Silver over SFA. Obviously SFA is dead, so I guessed Rummy first and used my early N2 guess on Maddog.
Really wish Theo started his guesses with LLL and SFA if he was using this strategy.
So we have a classic split of two on one person here and one on the other. And since it isn’t Rummy or MD, and it isn’t me. Going to disregard SFA at this point since he is dead and I think if he were Mafia with jortles the third one would have tried a little harder to save him here.
So it is safe to assume two of these folks in red are Mafia.
In retrospect, how do we feel about Silver’s pleas to live day one? Personally I don’t get down like that, especially day one as a townie. Because I don’t know the other’s person role so why would I advocate so hard for someone who may be a fellow townie to get voted off over me? Really rubbing me wrong as I reread it.
She disregards SFA being mafia because she thinks if the third mafia member should have come out to bat and say Theo was faking? If you're down one, about to be down two members, why on earth would anyone do that especially when everyone bought Theo's reveal. Based on this strange logic, she says there must be a 2-1 split and bases a new theory on it. Mind you, this is the opposite theory that Theo used. Seems weird to change direction on a decent plan right before we would reach her.
Alright, well it is clear that I am getting set up for the woo here by Mafia so that they can skate through another round since Rummy started with a vote on me so I became an easy target. So I doubt that you will listen to me when I tell you that isn't the way SFA operates as Mafia.
Mafia has not used their whack yet, Rummy and Maddog are still wildn out as townies on these streets, and I think I'm convinced for now that LLL is town.
Here's a question - if mafia hasn't used their whack yet, is it because they are expecting to get to D4 with two left, use it then, and come to a draw? If there was only one mafia left, I think they would have used the whack. So, I think this speaks for SFA not being mafia. But would be open to hearing other viewpoints on the use of the midday whack.
This is the post that put potent #2 on my sus list, for two reasons. It's strange to me that this was enough evidence to back off LLL. It just reads to me like he wanted a bit of distancing from LLL and then when everyone piled on her, he backed off. There's not reason to think that mafia not using their mid day whack means there is two mafia. I get the logic and I think you could say that if they did use it, there is one left but it's not a two way street. In fact, if there was only one mafia left alive, this could be their strategy. Using an early whack doesn't really give them a ton of benefit, but not using it could be used as misdirection to say "ah there must be two left so SFA must have been town".
and here's a post that backs this misdirection idea on the next page
Here's a question - if mafia hasn't used their whack yet, is it because they are expecting to get to D4 with two left, use it then, and come to a draw? If there was only one mafia left, I think they would have used the whack. So, I think this speaks for SFA not being mafia. But would be open to hearing other viewpoints on the use of the midday whack.
They aren't going to whack Rummy right now because she is doing their bidding. Guessing that means MD is off too. They can't whack me because I've become their target. That leaves two of you in that list I made as Mafia, two as wilcard townies. So yes, I think that they are trying to get me voted off, whack Rummy or MD overnight. Then a daytime whack.
All they have to do is get the spotline on a townie and get enough of you to go for it, and they are doing it right now.
this next post is strange because he already answered this question in the thread
I've been poring over the voting data and I just have a hard time believing she and Jortles were working together. It's possible, I will revisit on D4 of course, and I don't like the rush to stack on her today.Also, her plea to you read as very plaintive to me.
Im not against a runoff. Im just against a runoff here. There is no point hedging a bet. We have a group we are looking at (Silver voters) with only one person left. Let's just eliminate that group. Like that solves so many problems
Silver, this is always a fair way to go, but it is the wrong group. And we have to assume there are two left. So that is going to leave two Mafia going in to day four with two whacks. You aren't a cleared player. There is no reason that the group voting for you should be the one's under a microscope just because ONE mafia is there. There is almost always ONE mafia on in any given voting group. We need to be voting for the group that has TWO mafia in it that that is the SFA group. There are four remaining wildcard players in there and we are going in to day 4 next. The runoff can have me in it, but you need to have two of those folks in there too. If for no other reason than to see the voting data down the line when Town needs to try to kill off the actual mafia.
back to the "SFA is totally town, look at the other group" bs. Again, totally possible there were 3 mafia on Silver. It doesn't happen a whole lot but it's weird to me that LLL is dying on this hill.
It is absolutely not me. I can't say for certain that it wasn't SFA but I really don't think so. That is why I am pretty, pretty, pretty, pretttty sure there are two among Silver, Tranter, Potent and Cum. It is just figuring out which two. Silver and Tranter following you when you voted for me and the push to just vote someone off with no run-off is very suspicious. One could certainly be town being misguided by, but one of them is pretty likely Mafia. That is a pretty unusual town move to just want to vote an unk player off with no runoff. You get zero benefit from that as town. No voting data, a likely easy, incorrect target... all this behooves Mafia not town.
she reels in her SFA defense a little here.
Final Thoughts
I am reassured in my thoughts about LLL.
I think we have got to follow the gameplan here. Theo went through the Silver votes and stopped to reveal right before LLL. This was a strategy that nearly everyone in the thread has said is logical and sound. I think it would be smart to follow through with this plan instead of changing course because LLL says so. I think we also need to follow the whack. The whack points to LLL more than anyone else in this runoff.
I feel about the same as I did before on potent. He made some posts that read as towns but then does stuff like going to bat for LLL after saying we should follow the plan.
I'll try to be around to answer any questions and apologies for the long post.
also I don't think they used the whack because it's smarter to start d4 w no confirmed town than to randomly whack one of us and then go into d4 w the other alive
I don't think it has much to do w how many are left really
you mean like when I voted Silver to even it up so we could see where Jortles voted?
so to clarify in the same breath you are using both not giving jortles the lone revote and giving jortles the lone revote as defense for yourself?
no, I am saying that I didn’t give Jortles the lone revote the first time because I wanted to let Theo and Rooloo figure it out. Then, out of my control, he was gonna end up with a revote anyway so I let him make the choice to see where he fell. This goes against your “less votes on record” thing. Then when he did vote, I moved to the person I was most sus of anyway.
also I don't think they used the whack because it's smarter to start d4 w no confirmed town than to randomly whack one of us and then go into d4 w the other alive
I don't think it has much to do w how many are left really
a good mafia would try to stretch it out id think
that also makes sense. It still goes against LLL’s defense though.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
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Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Mar 5, 2022 22:06:29 GMT -5
I don’t know. I’m worn out from this at this point. It doesn’t make sense that I am Mafia with SFA and Jortles. But I guess test this theory and see what happens. When the game continues there you will have it. I’m taking a shower and then going outside to dance around a fire in my backyard.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
