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Men say they like women to make the first move but I’ve literally had guys tell me “I knew you liked me, and it was too easy.”
Choose better guys 'cause that's 80's movie villain shit.
I've had the same experience as EAP and not from total trash bags so my question is: how many of y'all raised male folk ended up in any kind significant/meaningful relationship when the other person made the first move?
Choose better guys 'cause that's 80's movie villain shit.
I've had the same experience as EAP and not from total trash bags so my question is: how many of y'all raised male folk ended up in any kind significant/meaningful relationship when the other person made the first move?
Almost every time. I've always been very worried about being that jerk that assumed that somebody was interested when they really weren't. It's mostly a self-esteem thing. Also, if you don't put yourself out there they can't reject you.
I was the reason most of the relationships lasted as long as they did, though. I'm kind of unflushable.
Hey buddy, go easy on yourself. I have overcome a lot of external and internal homophobia to get to where I am now. I'm in my late thirties and actively in therapy and community-based groups for over 15 years.
Society IS weird! Best to follow your own code. I borrowed mine from Kristin Bell (yes I do have a crush on her too but don't worry about it): "What can I do to take away some of the suffering in this world?" That includes ourselves! Be kind to LD. They're doing their best. <3
So, I've been bottling a ton of stuff up for a long time. I'm just used to suffering in silence. I'm around so many shitty people on a day to day basis that I feel alone, and whatever I'm dealing with - it doesn't matter and makes me a weak person for feeling that way.
Me coming here and talking about it now, I'm not fishing for compliments or the attention. I'm talking myself out of a terrible mental state.
And I also have a crush on Kristen Bell, or at least did when Veronica Mars was first on.
Well I’m still telling you that you’re great, and it takes guts to be honest & share.
Choose better guys 'cause that's 80's movie villain shit.
I've had the same experience as EAP and not from total trash bags so my question is: how many of y'all raised male folk ended up in any kind significant/meaningful relationship when the other person made the first move?
My wife initiated contact on OK Cupid and definitely initiated our first kiss after inviting me back to her place on our first date.
I've had the same experience as EAP and not from total trash bags so my question is: how many of y'all raised male folk ended up in any kind significant/meaningful relationship when the other person made the first move?
Really? Lady, that is sad. Because I know you, and like EAP and all the other gals I know on here you are smart, sexy as fuck, funny, successful, obviously into great music, adventurous, kind and fun as hell to be around. Losers. Dudes are lucky to have you even looking their way.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I'm trying to catch up, but fuck this page is busy. 😉😉
Few things: I've made the move on a few. I prefer connection, but a girl has to fulfill needs. I've never given a fuck about other people numbers but I always feel like mine is a bit high even though I waited until after high school.
Also, I yahoo messengered chatted when that was a thing (cheetachat ftw), and still have my Yahoo email from 1996.
That's as far as I got. I'll probably respond or update as I continue to catch up.
Choose better guys 'cause that's 80's movie villain shit.
I've had the same experience as EAP and not from total trash bags so my question is: how many of y'all raised male folk ended up in any kind significant/meaningful relationship when the other person made the first move?
If we’re talking long term like over a year then out of 3, 2 were initiated by them. If we’re talking people who had a great impact then probably 4 more. But I like assertive women, not just with sex but in general.
I'm trying to catch up, but fuck this page is busy. 😉😉
Few things: I've made the move on a few. I prefer connection, but a girl has to fulfill needs. I've never given a fuck about other people numbers but I always feel like mine is a bit high even though I waited until after high school.
Also, I yahoo messengered chatted when that was a thing (cheetachat ftw), and still have my Yahoo email from 1996.
That's as far as I got. I'll probably respond or update as I continue to catch up.
Oh yeah and I love all this discussion.
I met Dave (Chris) back in 2000 in an AOL chat room 😂 it was called The Tennessee Porch.
I'm trying to catch up, but fuck this page is busy. 😉😉
Few things: I've made the move on a few. I prefer connection, but a girl has to fulfill needs. I've never given a fuck about other people numbers but I always feel like mine is a bit high even though I waited until after high school.
Also, I yahoo messengered chatted when that was a thing (cheetachat ftw), and still have my Yahoo email from 1996.
That's as far as I got. I'll probably respond or update as I continue to catch up.
Oh yeah and I love all this discussion.
I met Dave (Chris) back in 2000 in an AOL chat room 😂 it was called The Tennessee Porch.
Amazing!
Kyle's dad came at me in Moonlight Way on Yahoo, spewing our personal drama once, it had to be 1998 or 99. It was insane.
I'm actually friends with a bunch of those people still. I guess I'm about that internet friend life. 🤣
So excited to leave work and catch up on this thread.
I count vaginal or anal sex as sex, and that's what I used for my number (42). Heteronormative or not, that's what feels right to me and counting bjs feels like falsely inflating the number. Other views are totally valid, but for me sex is largely just short for sexual intercourse (which I consider anal to be a subset of).
The internet has obviously changed hooking up, and I see nothing wrong with directly communicating what you're looking for. Sending "Damn I wanna fuck you" as an opening message versus sending a few back and forth messages and mentioning you're just looking for something physical are two totally different scenarios. I have had literally hundreds of men send me pictures of their wiener with no opening line whatsoever, so tbf I'm fairly desensitized to that sort of thing, but there are completely respectful ways to let one's carnal intentions be known.
Any guy who loses interest in someone because it's "too easy" isn't looking for sex or a connection. They're looking to feed their own ego. Best to avoid those folks anyway.
I've had a couple Craigslist hookups but much prefer the apps. CL just felt sketchy.
I. Absolutely. Love. when women make the first move, esp with online dating. Dudes will swipe right on hundreds of women and get maybe one or two matches, then the expectation is generally on them to make a move. It's exhausting if you're at all attached to the outcome. I've generally heard the opposite to be true from many women - they get a lot more matches but have to wade through a bunch of duds (which is also exhausting). If a woman messages first then I know the interest is genuine and there's less pressure for me to be charming and smart and funny and kind and convey that all within two messages. Also messaging first indicates confidence, and confident women are hot. Women generally have been socialized to be diminutive and/or play hard to get - I have a tendency to find such women boring and I find no pleasure in "the chase". That's too much work, let's just bone.
I. Absolutely. Love. when women make the first move, esp with online dating. Dudes will swipe right on hundreds of women and get maybe one or two matches, then the expectation is generally on them to make a move. It's exhausting if you're at all attached to the outcome. I've generally heard the opposite to be true from many women - they get a lot more matches but have to wade through a bunch of duds (which is also exhausting). If a woman messages first then I know the interest is genuine and there's less pressure for me to be charming and smart and funny and kind and convey that all within two messages. Also messaging first indicates confidence, and confident women are hot. Women generally have been socialized to be diminutive and/or play hard to get - I have a tendency to find such women boring and I find no pleasure in "the chase". That's too much work, let's just bone.
yup so anecdotally/personally can serve as a secondary confirmation of this ^^ pretty sure any dude I've actually clicked with/gone onto have more than one date with who i met via online dating/apps (even if it didn't turn into anything serious or even lead to sex--but at least to a solid initial connection, good time together, etc.) were ones i messaged first.
so long as fairly attractive, as a female you're bound to get inundated with matches and messages, and honestly there have been times where i see a full inbox and just mass delete before even opening them. especially if i can see they mostly all start with, "how r u doing?" and "wow youre so sexi" kind of bullshit. if i have enough interest to actually be the one to send a message to some stranger male on the internet, that isn't insignificant--because when all you've got is a few photos and brief profile to work with (more info given on OKC than the others which is why i mostly have just used that the past few years when i dip back into online dating), alongside a constant stream of not-so-great prospects aggressively sending messages, it can all be rather overwhelming. most times i go back onto apps, it isnt for long because of said overwhelm.
if i message first to a guy, it means there is enough there in that profile that makes me feel cautiously optimistic i might genuinely click with him--and i just don't feel that all too often when swiping through strangers on an app (#DemisexualProblems though too).
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
as an aside, making the first move IN PERSON - if it is someone i already know, sure whatever, but like asking out or leaving a number for that cute person you meet in passing? i get way too awkward for that shit.
EXCEPT! TONIGHT! hahaha this is very pertinent because im sitting at a bar in asheville where the other side has a restaurant, and obv i wanted to order some tator tots to-go before they closed. had a moderately flirtatious interaction with the v attractive dude working, but then like...i'd ordered my tots and was popping back over to the bar side to have a drink. definitely not the kind of scenario where i typically extend myself in any sort of way esp if someone is "on the clock" because that's just poor service-industry etiquette.
but then HE happened to pop back over to the bar side himself, and asked my name, etc. etc. and i was like "well do you ever come over to the bar part for a drink after work?" and he said, "yeah i sometimes do." and so he might come over soon and have a drink w me?
TL,DR: be bold sometimes. especially in asheville. the dudes and chicks are hot af here.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Choose better guys 'cause that's 80's movie villain shit.
I've had the same experience as EAP and not from total trash bags so my question is: how many of y'all raised male folk ended up in any kind significant/meaningful relationship when the other person made the first move?
raises hand.
I also took a break from this thread yesterday, but I would say that even some of the "traditionally" good looking people have self-esteem issues concerning their appearance. I also didn't want to center a conversation around my own lack of self-confidence when approaching this conversation - but like LD said connection/intimacy can be a huge part of what works for someone, and getting back on your feet after something big can take months/years. I still haven't.
I'm also really more shy than I seem, and when it comes to talking about sex I'm like an open bottle or I completely closed off vessel.
I've had the same experience as EAP and not from total trash bags so my question is: how many of y'all raised male folk ended up in any kind significant/meaningful relationship when the other person made the first move?
Really? Lady, that is sad. Because I know you, and like EAP and all the other gals I know on here you are smart, sexy as fuck, funny, successful, obviously into great music, adventurous, kind and fun as hell to be around. Losers. Dudes are lucky to have you even looking their way.
I heard this in your sassiest voice, and I love it.
When I moved back to RVA, I was using CL a lot. Jobs, furniture, concert tickets .. I found everything on there. The one thing I wasn’t expecting was I met my wife on CL. She’s absolutely the second best thing I’ve ever gotten on there.
When I moved back to RVA, I was using CL a lot. Jobs, furniture, concert tickets .. I found everything on there. The one thing I wasn’t expecting was I met my wife on CL. She’s absolutely the second best thing I’ve ever gotten on there.
That's one hardcore troll to get her to expose her account, daaamn boi
When I moved back to RVA, I was using CL a lot. Jobs, furniture, concert tickets .. I found everything on there. The one thing I wasn’t expecting was I met my wife on CL. She’s absolutely the second best thing I’ve ever gotten on there.
That's one hardcore troll to get her to expose her account, daaamn boi
She knows my feelings. I found my first apartment in Richmond on CraigsList. It was an old Marshmallow factory from the 1930’s that had been renovated into apartments.
Sex is great and all but have you ever lived in a place that smelled like marshmallows all the time?
My ex last night: So, what was that pity party on Facebook this morning all about?
And this is why I usually keep things to myself. God forbid I have feelings about anything.
from a friend, at this point, just tell her anything (cogent) that comes to mind about these things. It's not healthy to bottle up or pretend about it - because it'll just come out in another wave of emotion and flare. If you are feeling and experiencing trauma or re-examining it; just start releasing that pressure or it'll just build up and lead to shitter consequences