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A survivor I actually like most of the choices is back. I drink sparkling but it’s got to be spring. So I’m not going to be mad if it gets knocked out based on la croix or spindrift tap water with light flavor.
Juice rules. I don’t know how much sugar real [tm] juice has but it can’t be bad for most people I don’t think.
The only negatives I see are soda (soft drink down here), sports drinks and cheap beer (sorry Dan808). Hard seltzer and Fireball are eh but don’t bother me. Oh yeah. Put some gravy in my iv (assuming it’s not the baby variety).
Fructose, or "natural fruit sugars" are primarily metabolized through the liver, because it has to be turned into glucose before our cells can use it, unlike regular "sugar" (sucrose), which is a disaccharide combination of glucose and fructose and so only 50% has to be metabolized by the liver in order for use. One of the by products in this conversion are triglycerides. So too much fructose causes fatty liver and is a key culprit in the increase in obesity and diabetes, high cholesterol and all of the troubles that go with that (heart disease, strokes etc). When we eat it in full fruit form, we generally get a relatively low load of free fructose, plus we have the added benefit of fiber and the bulk that goes with whole food digestion that slows the increase of blood glucose levels (low glycemic index). Fruit juices have about 20g of sugar in an 8oz serving, and if it is 100% juice, around 70%(14g) of that is fructose. Compare that with a sugary soda, which is around 25g per 8oz, of which approx 12.5g will be fructose, the rest will be ready to be absorbed glucose. Juice of course has nutrients in it while soda does not, so maybe the trade of an extra few g of fructose is a fair trade, but excess amounts of juice is still not really good for anyone. But it is better than soda. I guess the key is always moderation is best with everything in life except sex, music, wine and coffee.
I think I remembered all of that correctly, and may need correcting on a few points.
I don’t know shit about metabolism or physiology, so I won’t be doing any correcting. My preference is fresh squeezed or fresh juiced. I put it in the food thread once that I wasn’t going to eat 10 apples, but I will drink them all day. I feel better when I’m regularly consuming raw juice. Skin is better, abdominal functions, vitamin levels (and apparently fructose as well). Maybe I’ll go back to using more vegetables. Nothing like an apple-carrot-celery-cucumber type refreshing beverage. Straight celery juice has been described to me as dialysis, but I never tried it yet.
Fructose, or "natural fruit sugars" are primarily metabolized through the liver, because it has to be turned into glucose before our cells can use it, unlike regular "sugar" (sucrose), which is a disaccharide combination of glucose and fructose and so only 50% has to be metabolized by the liver in order for use. One of the by products in this conversion are triglycerides. So too much fructose causes fatty liver and is a key culprit in the increase in obesity and diabetes, high cholesterol and all of the troubles that go with that (heart disease, strokes etc). When we eat it in full fruit form, we generally get a relatively low load of free fructose, plus we have the added benefit of fiber and the bulk that goes with whole food digestion that slows the increase of blood glucose levels (low glycemic index). Fruit juices have about 20g of sugar in an 8oz serving, and if it is 100% juice, around 70%(14g) of that is fructose. Compare that with a sugary soda, which is around 25g per 8oz, of which approx 12.5g will be fructose, the rest will be ready to be absorbed glucose. Juice of course has nutrients in it while soda does not, so maybe the trade of an extra few g of fructose is a fair trade, but excess amounts of juice is still not really good for anyone. But it is better than soda. I guess the key is always moderation is best with everything in life except sex, music, wine and coffee.
I think I remembered all of that correctly, and may need correcting on a few points.
I don’t know shit about metabolism or physiology, so I won’t be doing any correcting. My preference is fresh squeezed or fresh juiced. I put it in the food thread once that I wasn’t going to eat 10 apples, but I will drink them all day. I feel better when I’m regularly consuming raw juice. Skin is better, abdominal functions, vitamin levels (and apparently fructose as well). Maybe I’ll go back to using more vegetables. Nothing like an apple-carrot-celery-cucumber type refreshing beverage. Straight celery juice has been described to me as dialysis, but I never tried it yet.
I think home juicing probably changes the game quite a bit.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Maybe so LLL. Everything I read seems so speculative though like a late night dick enhancer commercial. I personally love it so I drink my own juice (haha).
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
voting milk until it’s out (unless we’re including dairy alternatives, then it can stay a bit)
fuck milk drinkers
Fuck that. Organic chocolate milk is upper crust. Promised Land, Horizon, yum. Plus coffee milk. Fuck you browell.
i thought that said orange chocolate milk at first, and i was about to be much more concerned
in all seriousness, i just can’t do milk anymore. even if i just use it for cereal or in a coffee, my stomach starts hurting and i feel generally unpleasant. plus, some vanilla almond milk just has superior flavor tbh
Fuck that. Organic chocolate milk is upper crust. Promised Land, Horizon, yum. Plus coffee milk. Fuck you browell.
i thought that said orange chocolate milk at first, and i was about to be much more concerned
in all seriousness, i just can’t do milk anymore. even if i just use it for cereal or in a coffee, my stomach starts hurting and i feel generally unpleasant. plus, some vanilla almond milk just has superior flavor tbh
Both my sons had that situation in their early 20’s. So since I didn’t have to buy gallons of store milk anymore, I switched to Horizon because it lasts a month longer and wouldn’t likely go bad. They fell back in love with milk and had no further stomach issues. It’s really hard to find their 1% which is always sold out at Rouses. Tastes like whole milk without all that fat and pus.
I’m not always opposed to nut-milk. But what is it? Cashew milk, almond milk, oat milk? I originally thought it was all ground into a milky white pulp, but apparently that’s not even close. Seems like Frankenstein shit, though tasty enough. Fair Life milk which is I think from Coca-Cola is 4 separated milk parts reintroduced to each other in a healthier way? Do I really want that?
Oh and while delicious in biscuits waffles and pancakes, and for dipping the chicken in, buttermilk is disgusting. My dad could quaff that shit.
i thought that said orange chocolate milk at first, and i was about to be much more concerned
in all seriousness, i just can’t do milk anymore. even if i just use it for cereal or in a coffee, my stomach starts hurting and i feel generally unpleasant. plus, some vanilla almond milk just has superior flavor tbh
Both my sons had that situation in their early 20’s. So since I didn’t have to buy gallons of store milk anymore, I switched to Horizon because it lasts a month longer and wouldn’t likely go bad. They fell back in love with milk and had no further stomach issues. It’s really hard to find their 1% which is always sold out at Rouses. Tastes like whole milk without all that fat and pus.
I’m not always opposed to nut-milk. But what is it? Cashew milk, almond milk, oat milk? I originally thought it was all ground into a milky white pulp, but apparently that’s not even close. Seems like Frankenstein shit, though tasty enough. Fair Life milk which is I think from Coca-Cola is 4 separated milk parts reintroduced to each other in a healthier way? Do I really want that?
Oh and while delicious in biscuits waffles and pancakes, buttermilk is disgusting. My dad could quaff that shit.
yeah i feel ya. in terms of alternatives for me, my favorite is almond milk, but i also enjoy oat milk (and that’s what the girlfriend prefers). i think the main thing to note for me is that regardless of what kind of milk i have, im not going to just pour a glass and drink it lol it’s always used as a base or an additive for something
Both my sons had that situation in their early 20’s. So since I didn’t have to buy gallons of store milk anymore, I switched to Horizon because it lasts a month longer and wouldn’t likely go bad. They fell back in love with milk and had no further stomach issues. It’s really hard to find their 1% which is always sold out at Rouses. Tastes like whole milk without all that fat and pus.
I’m not always opposed to nut-milk. But what is it? Cashew milk, almond milk, oat milk? I originally thought it was all ground into a milky white pulp, but apparently that’s not even close. Seems like Frankenstein shit, though tasty enough. Fair Life milk which is I think from Coca-Cola is 4 separated milk parts reintroduced to each other in a healthier way? Do I really want that?
Oh and while delicious in biscuits waffles and pancakes, buttermilk is disgusting. My dad could quaff that shit.
yeah i feel ya. in terms of alternatives for me, my favorite is almond milk, but i also enjoy oat milk (and that’s what the girlfriend prefers). i think the main thing to note for me is that regardless of what kind of milk i have, im not going to just pour a glass and drink it lol it’s always used as a base or an additive for something
I wake up to a coffee milk every morning which is pretty much what I use it for. I like French Truck’s concentrate the best and in latte style. But that’s about the extent of my regular milk drinking. I use it for mashed potatoes. You bout to be a doctor and are going to make me look up wtf nut milk actually is.
Oh and while delicious in biscuits waffles and pancakes, and for dipping the chicken in, buttermilk is disgusting. My dad could quaff that shit.
Are your from farm stock? The only folks I've known who drank buttermilk were my farming family and the old farmers who came into the "Kansas Cowboy Cafe and Rodeo Arena" where I was a waitress.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
yeah i feel ya. in terms of alternatives for me, my favorite is almond milk, but i also enjoy oat milk (and that’s what the girlfriend prefers). i think the main thing to note for me is that regardless of what kind of milk i have, im not going to just pour a glass and drink it lol it’s always used as a base or an additive for something
I wake up to a coffee milk every morning which is pretty much what I use it for. I like French Truck’s concentrate the best and in latte style. But that’s about the extent of my regular milk drinking. I use it for mashed potatoes. You bout to be a doctor and are going to make me look up wtf nut milk actually is.
as far as i know, each one is made a little differently and i don’t particularly know those methods. however, the lady and her family have made their own oat milk before and it’s pretty damn easy! if i’m not mistaken, you mainly just add oats, water, and maybe a few other small things into a blender and then strain it over a super fine strainer. you can repeat the strain a few times if you want, but then you just chill it and enjoy
as for the others, i think those typically require a lot of mashing and such since nuts are involved, so they’re a bit more intensive
Oh and while delicious in biscuits waffles and pancakes, and for dipping the chicken in, buttermilk is disgusting. My dad could quaff that shit.
Are your from farm stock? The only folks I've known who drank buttermilk were my farming family and the old farmers who came into the "Kansas Cowboy Cafe and Rodeo Arena" where I was a waitress.
No. My dad was literally 100% Irish. His dad was a doctor and grandpa was a blacksmith from Ireland.
I wake up to a coffee milk every morning which is pretty much what I use it for. I like French Truck’s concentrate the best and in latte style. But that’s about the extent of my regular milk drinking. I use it for mashed potatoes. You bout to be a doctor and are going to make me look up wtf nut milk actually is.
as far as i know, each one is made a little differently and i don’t particularly know those methods. however, the lady and her family have made their own oat milk before and it’s pretty damn easy! if i’m not mistaken, you mainly just add oats, water, and maybe a few other small things into a blender and then strain it over a super fine strainer. you can repeat the strain a few times if you want, but then you just chill it and enjoy
as for the others, i think those typically require a lot of mashing and such since nuts are involved, so they’re a bit more intensive
I thought I remember a long list of ingredients on the carton but maybe it’s all innocuous. I guess if you make your own you can do it however. Biggest problem with it for me is that it doesn’t usually mix well in iced coffee - almond and cashew particularly. And since that’s what I use milk for…
Gravy, or "God's gift to man" is primarily metabolized through the liver, because it has to be turned into gravose before our cells can use it, which is a disaccharide combination of gravy and fructose and so only 50% has to be metabolized by the liver in order for use. One of the by products in this conversion are trigravecides. So too much gravy causes fatty liver and is a key culprit in the increase in obesity and diabetes, high cholesterol and all of the troubles that go with that (heart disease, strokes etc). When we eat it in full Biscuits & Gravy form, we generally get a relatively low load of free gravose, plus we have the added benefit of fiber and the bulk that goes with whole food digestion that slows the increase of blood glucose levels (low glycemic index). Gravies have about 20g of gravose in an 8oz serving, and if it is 100% dank, around 70%(14g) of that is gravose. Compare that with a sugary soda, which is around 25g per 8oz, of which approx 12.5g will be fructose, the rest will be ready to be absorbed glucose. Gravy of course has nutrients in it while soda does not, so maybe the trade of an extra few g of gravose is a fair trade, but excess amounts of gravy is still not really good for anyone. But it is better than soda.
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