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I’ve lived in the NYC area most of my adult life and I would take a breakfast burrito over it. Love you Big Apple, but if I didn’t have my apartment / studio deal (which is over the river sadly) I may have moved by now. The rent is so bad now. I hope they never sell my building or we’re screwed (unless we get a payout).
Counterpoint: Been here 25 years and the thought of living most other places gives me hives.
I’ve lived in the NYC area most of my adult life and I would take a breakfast burrito over it. Love you Big Apple, but if I didn’t have my apartment / studio deal (which is over the river sadly) I may have moved by now. The rent is so bad now. I hope they never sell my building or we’re screwed (unless we get a payout).
Counterpoint: Been here 25 years and the thought of living most other places gives me hives. Yes, the rent is bad, but it's currently not that much worse/actually better than cities like L.A., San Francisco, and Seattle. Plus, outside of the walls of your apartment, you get a lot of bang for your buck. And NYC is so much more than Manhattan and Brooklyn, which I'm sure are the two boros that jump immediately to mind when people think of NYC. Queens is the most ethnically diverse urban area in the world. I can be on the beach at Rockaway in 40 minutes, and at Coney Island in just under an hour. The city's medical infrastructure is excellent, which may sound like a total Poindexter thing to point out, but as someone who's had to deal with both post-COVID treatment and a case of a super-rare infant paralytic infection in the past couple of years, I'm super-glad I had access to it. Every band and artist plays here, often multiple times between dates in many other locations. I'm walking distance to everything I need for day-to-day life, not to mention quality takes on all kinds of cuisines I can get at pretty much any hour of the day. There's excellent hiking and access to nature less than an hour's drive outside the city, and even more if you're willing to push your drive to 90 minutes or so, and New Yorkers who don't own a car because they don't have to drive every-damn-where just to get some groceries can always Zipcar it or just take Metro North.
I mean, I'd certainly never say it's all sunshine and roses. There is stuff about living here that straight-up sucks. But every place has its flaws as a place to live, with the possible exception of Kowloon Walled City.
ETA: I'm certainly not discounting your experience or saying you're wrong in how you feel, b/c everybody's experience and POV on this stuff is valid. Just offering an alternate take.
I’ve lived in the NYC area most of my adult life and I would take a breakfast burrito over it. Love you Big Apple, but if I didn’t have my apartment / studio deal (which is over the river sadly) I may have moved by now. The rent is so bad now. I hope they never sell my building or we’re screwed (unless we get a payout).
Counterpoint: Been here 25 years and the thought of living most other places gives me hives. Yes, the rent is bad, but it's currently not that much worse/actually better than cities like L.A., San Francisco, and Seattle. Plus, outside of the walls of your apartment, you get a lot of bang for your buck. And NYC is so much more than Manhattan and Brooklyn, which I'm sure are the two boros that jump immediately to mind when people think of NYC. Queens is the most ethnically diverse urban area in the world. I can be on the beach at Rockaway in 40 minutes, and at Coney Island in just under an hour. The city's medical infrastructure is excellent, which may sound like a total Poindexter thing to point out, but as someone who's had to deal with both post-COVID treatment and a case of a super-rare infant paralytic infection in the past couple of years, I'm super-glad I had access to it. Every band and artist plays here, often multiple times between dates in many other locations. I'm walking distance to everything I need for day-to-day life, not to mention quality takes on all kinds of cuisines I can get at pretty much any hour of the day. There's excellent hiking and access to nature less than an hour's drive outside the city, and even more if you're willing to push your drive to 90 minutes or so, and New Yorkers who don't own a car because they don't have to drive every-damn-where just to get some groceries can always Zipcar it or just take Metro North.
I mean, I'd certainly never say it's all sunshine and roses. There is stuff about living here that straight-up sucks. But every place has its flaws as a place to live, with the possible exception of Kowloon Walled City.
ETA: I'm certainly not discounting your experience or saying you're wrong in how you feel, b/c everybody's experience and POV on this stuff is valid. Just offering an alternate take.
Ah the seasonal Jorge NYC pitch! I'm getting flashbacks to city survivor.
A lot of the pitches include access to a car or renting one, which has been insanely overpriced since vaccines began. Also NYC has pretty decent medical infrastructure, but it's on par with SF, LA, and any city in PNW.
I think the pitch about most bands playing here is a solid one, but considering how much it is here and how much harder it is to get tickets to shows here, it's a whole other level of bullshit. OK, we get the secret Big Indie Band shows from time to time, and we get smaller good bands playing at Bowery or Brooklyn Steel. But anything big like Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Radiohead, etc, is either a HUGE pain to obtain a ticket that's priced way higher than their show in a smaller city, and/or we have to travel out to fucking Meadowlands. If it's commutable like at Barclays or MSG, it's $150 to be in a semi-good spot. I dunno. My GF's cousin who lives in Detroit could get Radiohead tickets like the DAY OF. I want that.
If I were to pitch why to live here, it's the culture, the community, and the access to DIY art that could tunnel into actual financial opportunities. It's also easy to fly to Europe when we eventually have to leave the country as refugees from fascism.
Post by man1cpixiedreamgirl on Aug 30, 2022 11:52:13 GMT -5
In terms of living spaces, though, it really is scary bad. It's bad EVERYWHERE but here? People are offering $1000 over the asking price of RENT. LIKE WHEN PEOPLE BUY HOUSES. Meanwhile I'm one covid sickness away from having to dip into savings if I can't pick up my shifts.
Counterpoint: Been here 25 years and the thought of living most other places gives me hives. Yes, the rent is bad, but it's currently not that much worse/actually better than cities like L.A., San Francisco, and Seattle. Plus, outside of the walls of your apartment, you get a lot of bang for your buck. And NYC is so much more than Manhattan and Brooklyn, which I'm sure are the two boros that jump immediately to mind when people think of NYC. Queens is the most ethnically diverse urban area in the world. I can be on the beach at Rockaway in 40 minutes, and at Coney Island in just under an hour. The city's medical infrastructure is excellent, which may sound like a total Poindexter thing to point out, but as someone who's had to deal with both post-COVID treatment and a case of a super-rare infant paralytic infection in the past couple of years, I'm super-glad I had access to it. Every band and artist plays here, often multiple times between dates in many other locations. I'm walking distance to everything I need for day-to-day life, not to mention quality takes on all kinds of cuisines I can get at pretty much any hour of the day. There's excellent hiking and access to nature less than an hour's drive outside the city, and even more if you're willing to push your drive to 90 minutes or so, and New Yorkers who don't own a car because they don't have to drive every-damn-where just to get some groceries can always Zipcar it or just take Metro North.
I mean, I'd certainly never say it's all sunshine and roses. There is stuff about living here that straight-up sucks. But every place has its flaws as a place to live, with the possible exception of Kowloon Walled City.
ETA: I'm certainly not discounting your experience or saying you're wrong in how you feel, b/c everybody's experience and POV on this stuff is valid. Just offering an alternate take.
But it freezes and has snow like 60% of the year.
That used to be the case, but thanks to climate change, our winters are fairly mild, now. Both December and February highs average in the 40s - January's the only month the average highs dip into the 30s. Snow? Maybe 3 times a season, anymore.
I dunno. I enjoy variety in my weather and actually like things on the cooler side, so October - December here is my jam (surfing at Rockaway Beach is typically best in that period, too). But if you like warm weather, we've got it most of the year - I'd say April through mid-to-late October.
That used to be the case, but thanks to climate change, our winters are fairly mild, now. Both December and February highs average in the 40s - January's the only month the average highs dip into the 30s. Snow? Maybe 3 times a season, anymore.
I dunno. I enjoy variety in my weather and actually like things on the cooler side, so October - December here is my jam (surfing at Rockaway Beach is typically best in that period, too). But if you like warm weather, we've got it most of the year - I'd say April through mid-to-late October.
Counterpoint: Been here 25 years and the thought of living most other places gives me hives. Yes, the rent is bad, but it's currently not that much worse/actually better than cities like L.A., San Francisco, and Seattle. Plus, outside of the walls of your apartment, you get a lot of bang for your buck. And NYC is so much more than Manhattan and Brooklyn, which I'm sure are the two boros that jump immediately to mind when people think of NYC. Queens is the most ethnically diverse urban area in the world. I can be on the beach at Rockaway in 40 minutes, and at Coney Island in just under an hour. The city's medical infrastructure is excellent, which may sound like a total Poindexter thing to point out, but as someone who's had to deal with both post-COVID treatment and a case of a super-rare infant paralytic infection in the past couple of years, I'm super-glad I had access to it. Every band and artist plays here, often multiple times between dates in many other locations. I'm walking distance to everything I need for day-to-day life, not to mention quality takes on all kinds of cuisines I can get at pretty much any hour of the day. There's excellent hiking and access to nature less than an hour's drive outside the city, and even more if you're willing to push your drive to 90 minutes or so, and New Yorkers who don't own a car because they don't have to drive every-damn-where just to get some groceries can always Zipcar it or just take Metro North.
I mean, I'd certainly never say it's all sunshine and roses. There is stuff about living here that straight-up sucks. But every place has its flaws as a place to live, with the possible exception of Kowloon Walled City.
ETA: I'm certainly not discounting your experience or saying you're wrong in how you feel, b/c everybody's experience and POV on this stuff is valid. Just offering an alternate take.
Ah the seasonal Jorge NYC pitch! I'm getting flashbacks to city survivor.
A lot of the pitches include access to a car or renting one, which has been insanely overpriced since vaccines began. Also NYC has pretty decent medical infrastructure, but it's on par with SF, LA, and any city in PNW.
I think the pitch about most bands playing here is a solid one, but considering how much it is here and how much harder it is to get tickets to shows here, it's a whole other level of bullshit. OK, we get the secret Big Indie Band shows from time to time, and we get smaller good bands playing at Bowery or Brooklyn Steel. But anything big like Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Radiohead, etc, is either a HUGE pain to obtain a ticket that's priced way higher than their show in a smaller city, and/or we have to travel out to fucking Meadowlands. If it's commutable like at Barclays or MSG, it's $150 to be in a semi-good spot. I dunno. My GF's cousin who lives in Detroit could get Radiohead tickets like the DAY OF. I want that.
If I were to pitch why to live here, it's the culture, the community, and the access to DIY art that could tunnel into actual financial opportunities. It's also easy to fly to Europe when we eventually have to leave the country as refugees from fascism.
The Stockholm Syndrome is real.
I dunno re: car. Yeah, car rentals are expensive...but in my experience, it's not as expensive as owning and maintaining a car and paying for insurance and the regular use of gas, which you have to do when you live most other places.
I'm not going to argue that getting hot tickets here is tough, although I've found ways to game the system (better-off friends who have American Express cards and'll let me use them to get in on presales, for example). I'm sure everyone's experience is different, but I've only rarely been shut out of a show I desperately wanted to see in the past decade, and when I am, I don't have to feel too bad about it because another show is coming right around the corner for me to be excited about. But your point is totally taken.
Ah the seasonal Jorge NYC pitch! I'm getting flashbacks to city survivor.
A lot of the pitches include access to a car or renting one, which has been insanely overpriced since vaccines began. Also NYC has pretty decent medical infrastructure, but it's on par with SF, LA, and any city in PNW.
I think the pitch about most bands playing here is a solid one, but considering how much it is here and how much harder it is to get tickets to shows here, it's a whole other level of bullshit. OK, we get the secret Big Indie Band shows from time to time, and we get smaller good bands playing at Bowery or Brooklyn Steel. But anything big like Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Radiohead, etc, is either a HUGE pain to obtain a ticket that's priced way higher than their show in a smaller city, and/or we have to travel out to fucking Meadowlands. If it's commutable like at Barclays or MSG, it's $150 to be in a semi-good spot. I dunno. My GF's cousin who lives in Detroit could get Radiohead tickets like the DAY OF. I want that.
If I were to pitch why to live here, it's the culture, the community, and the access to DIY art that could tunnel into actual financial opportunities. It's also easy to fly to Europe when we eventually have to leave the country as refugees from fascism.
The Stockholm Syndrome is real.
I dunno re: car. Yeah, car rentals are expensive...but in my experience, it's not as expensive as owning and maintaining a car and paying for insurance and the regular use of gas, which you have to do when you live most other places.
I'm not going to argue that getting hot tickets here is tough, although I've found ways to game the system (better-off friends who have American Express cards and'll let me use them to get in on presales, for example). I'm sure everyone's experience is different, but I've only rarely been shut out of a show I desperately wanted to see in the past decade, and when I am, I don't have to feel too bad about it because another show is coming right around the corner for me to be excited about. But your point is totally taken.
But you're still arguing to do things that involve a car? And having to game the system to see a show, when other people can like see a giant name in a giant stadium the day-of? I don't know, I'm so tired of how hard it is to get to the part where I am doing the enjoyable activity. It's 5x harder here than other places, and it takes a toll.
I feel like it used to be so much easier to live here. I feel cheated about how things have gone the last couple years. Late stage capitalism is really gaining on us as a city - not that it isn't in other places - and it's easier to see how moving somewhere else (if we had to) wouldn't be the heartbreak it would've been 5 years ago for me.
i will say the older i get the happier i am living in a small city where shit is cheap and nothing really happens. wish we had LA weather though.
Absolutely. I love living in Cincinnati and visiting others cities. We get a lot of shows, and if a tour doesn’t come through here, we’re close enough to plenty of other cities where it probably does.
One of my biggest pet peeves right now is that most of the merch that I have loved at shows has been cropped hoodies which, don't get me wrong, I love. But I live in NOLA. It is too fucking hot to have as many hoodies as I currently own. Especially when I would rather wear coochie cutters and cropped tops.
One of my biggest pet peeves right now is that most of the merch that I have loved at shows has been cropped hoodies which, don't get me wrong, I love. But I live in NOLA. It is too fucking hot to have as many hoodies as I currently own. Especially when I would rather wear coochie cutters and cropped tops.
i love when the brands i follow sell "linen summer beach sweaters" like bro get the fuck outta here lol.
One of my biggest pet peeves right now is that most of the merch that I have loved at shows has been cropped hoodies which, don't get me wrong, I love. But I live in NOLA. It is too fucking hot to have as many hoodies as I currently own. Especially when I would rather wear coochie cutters and cropped tops.
i love when the brands i follow sell "linen summer beach sweaters" like bro get the fuck outta here lol.
If I saw someone in a sweater at the beach during the summer, I think I might go postal on them. Does plastic shovels do bodily harm? Asking for future reference.
i will say the older i get the happier i am living in a small city where shit is cheap and nothing really happens. wish we had LA weather though.
Absolutely. I love living in Cincinnati and visiting others cities. We get a lot of shows, and if a tour doesn’t come through here, we’re close enough to plenty of other cities where it probably does.
Absolutely. I love living in Cincinnati and visiting others cities. We get a lot of shows, and if a tour doesn’t come through here, we’re close enough to plenty of other cities where it probably does.
Also helps that cinci is dope
It is dope in so many ways. I do wish our arena didn’t suck. We lose all the arena shows to Columbus and Louisville.
i saw a couple shows at an arena in Cincinnati and remember it being dope.
Was it in the 1970s?
2009. i might've just been excited to be at a show with my friends. but i remember having plenty of space and the sound was good, and no trouble getting into the arena or anything.
2009. i might've just been excited to be at a show with my friends. but i remember having plenty of space and the sound was good, and no trouble getting into the arena or anything.
It’s definitely easily accessible, and there’s plenty to do around there (more so now than in 2009), but the sound has never been good (at least not in the last 25 years).
Counterpoint: Been here 25 years and the thought of living most other places gives me hives. Yes, the rent is bad, but it's currently not that much worse/actually better than cities like L.A., San Francisco, and Seattle. Plus, outside of the walls of your apartment, you get a lot of bang for your buck. And NYC is so much more than Manhattan and Brooklyn, which I'm sure are the two boros that jump immediately to mind when people think of NYC. Queens is the most ethnically diverse urban area in the world. I can be on the beach at Rockaway in 40 minutes, and at Coney Island in just under an hour. The city's medical infrastructure is excellent, which may sound like a total Poindexter thing to point out, but as someone who's had to deal with both post-COVID treatment and a case of a super-rare infant paralytic infection in the past couple of years, I'm super-glad I had access to it. Every band and artist plays here, often multiple times between dates in many other locations. I'm walking distance to everything I need for day-to-day life, not to mention quality takes on all kinds of cuisines I can get at pretty much any hour of the day. There's excellent hiking and access to nature less than an hour's drive outside the city, and even more if you're willing to push your drive to 90 minutes or so, and New Yorkers who don't own a car because they don't have to drive every-damn-where just to get some groceries can always Zipcar it or just take Metro North.
I mean, I'd certainly never say it's all sunshine and roses. There is stuff about living here that straight-up sucks. But every place has its flaws as a place to live, with the possible exception of Kowloon Walled City.
ETA: I'm certainly not discounting your experience or saying you're wrong in how you feel, b/c everybody's experience and POV on this stuff is valid. Just offering an alternate take.
But it freezes and has snow like 60% of the year.
To be fair, at this point we barely know more than 2 snowstorms a year worth mentioning - it's the flooding that's a huge issue.
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