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Post by Radius Claus on Apr 30, 2023 16:05:01 GMT -5
This festival had so many bucket list bands for me and put them all on the same bill so I really don't know who is left that would make me as excited as I was this year. Maybe Depeche mode or if they brought back dre and friends? They almost did too well for my tastes this year and got everyone I've always wanted to see.
Considering that Rihanna was supposed to headline Glastonbury this year (and will very likely return in ‘24), I think she will play this too. Maybe the Super Bowl was supposed to be the launching pad for some major shows originally, not parenthood.
Considering that Rihanna was supposed to headline Glastonbury this year (and will very likely return in ‘24), I think she will play this too. Maybe the Super Bowl was supposed to be the launching pad for some major shows originally, not parenthood.
They didnt have Riri, just Taylor. And Emily Eavis openly spoke about booking Taylor within the next 5 years. So she knows Taylor has extensive touring plans.
Post by Larry Farnsworth on Apr 30, 2023 20:17:23 GMT -5
anyway one "returning to the desert" was an act that tanked in popularity yet still demanded a big slot and they didn't know what to do with, the other was someone that they already paid for the aborted 2020 festival and needed to cram on there, it's not happening again and if it does it's not gonna be RATM or anyone cool, it'll be Kaskade or whoever
Indeed. And a nice allotment of No Rules every year. The west coast of the state is lush with breweries and the area over here is starting to catch up. It’s a wild time to be a craft lover here right now. If you win I’ll send you a bottle.
Considering that Rihanna was supposed to headline Glastonbury this year (and will very likely return in ‘24), I think she will play this too. Maybe the Super Bowl was supposed to be the launching pad for some major shows originally, not parenthood.
Swift was, not Rihanna.
There were a lot of reports coming out in April saying it was Rihanna.
anyway one "returning to the desert" was an act that tanked in popularity yet still demanded a big slot and they didn't know what to do with, the other was someone that they already paid for the aborted 2020 festival and needed to cram on there, it's not happening again and if it does it's not gonna be RATM or anyone cool, it'll be Kaskade or whoever
2011: "They'll go back to listing only two artists on the second line just like the year before. This year was just an anomaly with bigger artists. Also, keep dreaming about your "co-headliners". That'll never happen again."
2019: "They only gave Sunday Service a special big font billing at the bottom of the poster just to push W2 tickets sales. They'll never give special billing at the bottom of the poster for anything else ever again."
2022: "Guys, the whole "Returning to the Desert" billing was just a one-off thing just to make SHM happy. They're definitely not doing that again next year."
I’m the opposite. I think ‘returning to the desert’ will be a staple now, as it’s a way of getting a non-headline act that only accepts headline bookings to play. Dunno why they would get rid of a 4th headline slot if they can have one. It will sell more tickets.
anyway one "returning to the desert" was an act that tanked in popularity yet still demanded a big slot and they didn't know what to do with, the other was someone that they already paid for the aborted 2020 festival and needed to cram on there, it's not happening again and if it does it's not gonna be RATM or anyone cool, it'll be Kaskade or whoever
2011: "They'll go back to listing only two artists on the second line just like the year before. This year was just an anomaly with bigger artists. Also, keep dreaming about your "co-headliners". That'll never happen again."
2019: "They only gave Sunday Service a special big font billing at the bottom of the poster just to push W2 tickets sales. They'll never give special billing at the bottom of the poster for anything else ever again."
2022: "Guys, the whole "Returning to the Desert" billing was just a one-off thing just to make SHM happy. They're definitely not doing that again next year."
is this supposed to be some sort of mic drop? because most of it doesn't make a lick of sense. After 2011, there's only been one other co-headliner booking, and that was in 2013. I don't know who was banging on about only two acts on the second line, because there were more than that in 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004. After Sunday Service there wasn't anything at the bottom of the poster in 2020, and that only changed with the RTTD thing.
so i mean if your point is that the festival changes over time occasionally, then yeah. if it's that every single thing they change from year to year becomes some sort of permanent fixture then no. so i don't really know what you're trying to do here.
Not necessarily because GV will want it. Agents know it is a possibility now and a high stature one at that. They had two years of dictating who will get it and if it is even needed, now the agents and managers will swoop in. If the tantrums Paul mentioned about second lines were bad, this will be worse lol.
Not necessarily because GV will want it. Agents know it is a possibility now and a high stature one at that. They had two years of dictating who will get it and if it is even needed, now the agents and managers will swoop in. If the tantrums Paul mentioned about second lines were bad, this will be worse lol.
RETURNING TO THE DESERT DJ Snake
Yeah, it's just too much of a tool in the negotiation toolshed now. Same with the big-font subheadliners.
If they didn't see longer term value in RTTD, they could have had Calvin Harris sub for Blackpink with Rosalia #3 on that day; he was fine being a sub in 2020, and she was coming off a tour where she'd not yet booked arenas, #3 would not have been crazy particularly if three former headliners were taking the #2 spots. But I'm sure moving Calvin to RTTD made everything else cleaner billing-wise.
the wonky thing with RTTD is that we've had the RTTD slot close Main Stage both times now, and I don't think that is necessarily a given. What does GV do with the RTTD billing if each of their three headliners are bonafide superstars that demand closing slots?
the wonky thing with RTTD is that we've had the RTTD slot close Main Stage both times now, and I don't think that is necessarily a given. What does GV do with the RTTD billing if each of their three headliners are bonafide superstars that demand closing slots?
Book a sub that wouldnt mind closing Outdoor and be given an extended set and then put the RTTD before the headliner if the schedule dictates the top billed act must close.
Overall I think they just need to ensure there are true alternatives to the headliners. Cant have the Frank thing happen again where everyones waiting around and you cant even go see something else cause you only got 2 stages going. Mojave is far enough away that theres no sound issues and you could even have a later night in the Sonora since its enclosed.
the wonky thing with RTTD is that we've had the RTTD slot close Main Stage both times now, and I don't think that is necessarily a given. What does GV do with the RTTD billing if each of their three headliners are bonafide superstars that demand closing slots?
They even sort of worked around that this year though, by having Calvin not actually appear in the main stage schedule column lol. That at least somewhat appeases ego's.
the wonky thing with RTTD is that we've had the RTTD slot close Main Stage both times now, and I don't think that is necessarily a given. What does GV do with the RTTD billing if each of their three headliners are bonafide superstars that demand closing slots?
They even sort of worked around that this year though, by having Calvin not actually appear in the main stage schedule column lol. That at least somewhat appeases ego's.
I was thinking exactly this is what makes it less likely though - it'd be even weirder to have a giant gap on main stage from 8:30-10 and have them billed "Returning to the Desert" at the bottom.
I could see RTTD continuing if they can keep getting headliners who don't care about being last on the main stage (if the rumors about Calvin closing after RATM 2020 are true then maybe RATM agrees again in 2024), or if RTTD stops being a main stage closing act, but I also would not at all be surprised if they do away with it and go with the larger font subheadliners.