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There is the argument against having Oasis even play Glastonbury as their first show cause what if its a trainwreck and it would be broadcast on tv across the uk. And the sneaking in part. Theyre going to have to have like an open ended statement saying these are the first announced shows but not the actual first ones.
Are The Stone Roses the one example of Coachella booking a headliner in the mid/late stages of a reunion tour vs. wanting their first shows (GnR, LCD, Outkast, etc.)?
If so, I'm not sure I understand the theory for 2026 since they've only done it once and it didn't go well with a similar comparable act. I think PT will either give them a gazillion dollars and convince them to open up in the desert to get the kinks out, or they just won't book them.
Post by brittrock80 on Aug 26, 2024 10:00:27 GMT -5
I can't see a Britpop version of Desert Trip selling very well. Desert Trip sold because boomers have $ and all of the acts were huge in the United States. Power Trip had as good of a lineup as you can get for metal and sold disappointingly.
Oasis had their day in the US, but they're not as big as Metallica by themselves for American fans. Pulp, Blur, Elastica reunion, Manic Street Preachers etc. have very niche fanbases in America but I can't see that many people paying $600 for General Admission or $1600 for VIP to see Oasis and five bands like that.
I can't see a Britpop version of Desert Trip selling very well. Desert Trip sold because boomers have $ and all of the acts were huge in the United States. Power Trip had as good of a lineup as you can get for metal and sold disappointingly.
Oasis had their day in the US, but they're not as big as Metallica by themselves for American fans. Pulp, Blur, Elastica reunion, Manic Street Preachers etc. have very niche fanbases in America but I can't see that many people paying $600 for General Admission or $1600 for VIP to see Oasis and five bands like that.
I think a britpop festival would go horribly, but you may be able to fit Oasis into a 90s rock festival with acts like Pearl Jam and Foo Fighters. I think it probably just makes more sense to have them at Coachella though.
Are The Stone Roses the one example of Coachella booking a headliner in the mid/late stages of a reunion tour vs. wanting their first shows (GnR, LCD, Outkast, etc.)?
If so, I'm not sure I understand the theory for 2026 since they've only done it once and it didn't go well with a similar comparable act. I think PT will either give them a gazillion dollars and convince them to open up in the desert to get the kinks out, or they just won't book them.
The Verve. They reunited in 2007 and had a tour the same year. They were a sub but its in the same vein cause they headlined a bunch if other fests in 08. Portishead had gone away for a while and done a couple of performances before doing Coachella and then touring the uk/europe afterwards. It was their only u.s show other than the secret warm up 2 days before the fest.
Would it be a 90s Desert Trip or BritPop Desert Trip? Because clearly Blur does nothing to move the needle, and god knows when Radiohead come back, so you’re stuck with the smile. What would that even look like?
We don't want a britpop festival. we want them at coachella in 2025 bc i already have tickets.
The only way it could even work is if didnt have the seating part. Make it all Ga but of course youll have to have vip pit. And if Blur hadnt just played Coachella you could feasibly have had Oasis, Blur and Radiohead. Even then, why not go all out and just have those 3 perform one day. Everyone gets a full set and youll make some bank. You could potentially have a couple of support acts and it starts at 4pm and goes til 1am like Coachella can on Friday or Saturday.
lol the Suede and Manic Street Preachers show here in New England(!) sold so poorly that DoMORE was giving away free tickets. Theres just no demand for britpop in the US
Post by braundiggity on Aug 26, 2024 11:25:10 GMT -5
Y'all are not actually serious about a Britpop Desert Trip right? That might work for a, like, 50k or smaller attendance festival but Desert Trip only works at all if you have multiple headliners who can sell out stadiums and exclusively acts that can play arenas at least. And Radiohead is not even at stadium level. (Also I wouldn't consider Radiohead to be britpop...)
Are The Stone Roses the one example of Coachella booking a headliner in the mid/late stages of a reunion tour vs. wanting their first shows (GnR, LCD, Outkast, etc.)?
If so, I'm not sure I understand the theory for 2026 since they've only done it once and it didn't go well with a similar comparable act. I think PT will either give them a gazillion dollars and convince them to open up in the desert to get the kinks out, or they just won't book them.
The Verve. They reunited in 2007 and had a tour the same year. They were a sub but its in the same vein cause they headlined a bunch if other fests in 08. Portishead had gone away for a while and done a couple of performances before doing Coachella and then touring the uk/europe afterwards. It was their only u.s show other than the secret warm up 2 days before the fest.
If you include 2nd line acts it's happened quite a bit. Faith No More... the Replacements... even the Blur and Pulp appearances to an extent.
Y'all are not actually serious about a Britpop Desert Trip right? That might work for a, like, 50k or smaller attendance festival but Desert Trip only works at all if you have multiple headliners who can sell out stadiums and exclusively acts that can play arenas at least. And Radiohead is not even at stadium level. (Also I wouldn't consider Radiohead to be britpop...)
I remember the time I saw Radiohead at Foro Sol in 09 they had managed to sell out 2 nights at over 50k per night. Radiohead got caught up in the whole brit pop thing cause of The Bends. Okc got released and threw everyone for a loop while Damon and the Gallaghers kept bitching at each other.
The Verve. They reunited in 2007 and had a tour the same year. They were a sub but its in the same vein cause they headlined a bunch if other fests in 08. Portishead had gone away for a while and done a couple of performances before doing Coachella and then touring the uk/europe afterwards. It was their only u.s show other than the secret warm up 2 days before the fest.
If you include 2nd line acts it's happened quite a bit. Faith No More... the Replacements... even the Blur and Pulp appearances to an extent.
Yeah good point. Happened to quite a few subs. Even The Knife had to wait a year because their first shows in 2013 were right on the edge of Coach and didnt want to do that so it got pushed.
The Verve. They reunited in 2007 and had a tour the same year. They were a sub but its in the same vein cause they headlined a bunch if other fests in 08. Portishead had gone away for a while and done a couple of performances before doing Coachella and then touring the uk/europe afterwards. It was their only u.s show other than the secret warm up 2 days before the fest.
If you include 2nd line acts it's happened quite a bit. Faith No More... the Replacements... even the Blur and Pulp appearances to an extent.
Yes, but there's a big difference between a second line act and a headliner. If you're booking a reunion headliner, you want that to be at the start of the reunion to maximize excitement, not a year later. Headliners need to move tickets more than second line acts.
Granted they were not a headliner but Pulp played Coachella in 2012 even though the reunion started in 2011 and it still drew well and was considered a big deal
I was at that show in 2012 and it did not draw well. More than Stone Roses 2013 (the bar can't get any lower), but less than Blur 2013 (which also did not draw well). Was very easy to walk straight up to the stage at any point during the show. After the soundboard it was just loosely scattered people laying down. Not even 10% capacity at main on Fri at 8pm.
What size venues would they play in the U.S.? People were saying they could do football stadiums on another forum at least in the major markets but I don’t know if demand will be THAT high. Arenas or maybe baseball stadiums seem more likely to me.
Not a chance in hell they play any type of stadium, just pure delusion. Arenas are a stretch for any city other than LA/NY/Chi.
they could sell out a basketball arena in at least a dozen US markets
I'd like to see that list of a dozen, because unless they put tickets at 1995 prices, I don't see them selling out any more than the 3 or 4 biggest markets max. The rest of the country they'd be better off playing amphitheaters or 3-5k venues.
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lol the Suede and Manic Street Preachers show here in New England(!) sold so poorly that DoMORE was giving away free tickets. Theres just no demand for britpop in the US
ok but suede literally played one show in NA after 1998 (at coachella) whereas Oasis’s final tour in 2009 had them in basketball arenas across the continent. you can’t really compare oasis’s US popularity directly to the other acts of that time (besides Radiohead)
I was at that show in 2012 and it did not draw well. More than Stone Roses 2013 (the bar can't get any lower), but less than Blur 2013 (which also did not draw well). Was very easy to walk straight up to the stage at any point during the show. After the soundboard it was just loosely scattered people laying down. Not even 10% capacity at main on Fri at 8pm.
Not a chance in hell they play any type of stadium, just pure delusion. Arenas are a stretch for any city other than LA/NY/Chi.
I'd like to see that list of a dozen, because unless they put tickets at 1995 prices, I don't see them selling out any more than the 3 or 4 biggest markets max. The rest of the country they'd be better off playing amphitheaters or 3-5k venues.
Montreal Miami Vancouver Toronto Seattle LA NYC Austin SF Chicago
Are The Stone Roses the one example of Coachella booking a headliner in the mid/late stages of a reunion tour vs. wanting their first shows (GnR, LCD, Outkast, etc.)?
If so, I'm not sure I understand the theory for 2026 since they've only done it once and it didn't go well with a similar comparable act. I think PT will either give them a gazillion dollars and convince them to open up in the desert to get the kinks out, or they just won't book them.
The Verve. They reunited in 2007 and had a tour the same year. They were a sub but its in the same vein cause they headlined a bunch if other fests in 08. Portishead had gone away for a while and done a couple of performances before doing Coachella and then touring the uk/europe afterwards. It was their only u.s show other than the secret warm up 2 days before the fest.
So the answer is "no" if they've done it for any other headliner than The Stone Roses. Big difference between second liners and HL's
The Verve. They reunited in 2007 and had a tour the same year. They were a sub but its in the same vein cause they headlined a bunch if other fests in 08. Portishead had gone away for a while and done a couple of performances before doing Coachella and then touring the uk/europe afterwards. It was their only u.s show other than the secret warm up 2 days before the fest.
So the answer is "no" if they've done it for any other headliner than The Stone Roses. Big difference between second liners and HL's
Swedish House Mafia. They had a comeback in 18 at Ultra and toured in 2019. Then somehow tricked GV into giving them their rttd slot which turned into headlining. The tour that followed sold like total ass.
Post by dioramadeux on Aug 26, 2024 12:35:00 GMT -5
Some leaked dates floating around Twitter…
8/24 Toronto - Downsview Park 8/27 Chicago - Soldier Field 8/30 East Rutherford - MetLife Stadium 9/2 Boston - Gillette Stadium 9/6 Pasadena - Rose Bowl