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Post by Capital Cincy on Mar 15, 2024 8:16:37 GMT -5
I'm really glad salvia exists because it's made for some top tier youtube content but I will probably never smoke it. I will chew the leaves if I ever get the chance tho
I'm really glad salvia exists because it's made for some top tier youtube content but I will probably never smoke it. I will chew the leaves if I ever get the chance tho
i honestly haven't thought about salvia in like 20 years until this survivor, so i'm not sure how chewing the leaves would be, but i know that generally ingesting or chewing a substance makes it last longer, and the only good thing about smoking salvia was the short duration. incredibly unpleasant experience, being in that space for any length of time would be terrible.
I'm really glad salvia exists because it's made for some top tier youtube content but I will probably never smoke it. I will chew the leaves if I ever get the chance tho
i honestly haven't thought about salvia in like 20 years until this survivor, so i'm not sure how chewing the leaves would be, but i know that generally ingesting or chewing a substance makes it last longer, and the only good thing about smoking salvia was the short duration. incredibly unpleasant experience, being in that space for any length of time would be terrible.
Basically I'm just a conservative doser in general and I've heard that with chewing you can experience a different and slower experience than being blasted off and becoming and inanimate object or the floor sucking you in or whatever.
I never believed it until innocent Miley Cyrus was videoed smoking and geeking. Here she is bong ripping salvia while Bush blasts in the background. Hannah Salvia
I never believed it until innocent Miley Cyrus was videoed smoking and geeking. Here she is bong ripping salvia while Bush blasts in the background. Hannah Salvia
on a light salvia trip i felt like the whole room was turning so I started leaning over to the side real hard to make it go upright again and just slid off the couch. weird perceptual changes and body sensations. when i'd do a big dose though it was total ego death; like flying through space or just, large voids and losing all sense of self, blending into the environment. There isn't the same sort of visualizations as with serotonergic psychedelics, it's more of just like totally losing any sort of train of thought (or even the concept of a train), until I would gradually come-to. it was really only scary if i'd try to maintain some sense of mental control. definitely not something i'd do if I were at a music festival.
total side note brain nerdery: it's kind of interesting, because salvia is an agonist on kappa opioid receptors and the dopaminergic reward system, but KORs are thought to be a natural regulatory mechanism to help prevent addiction related reward mechanisms. KOR agonists are thought to help downregulate drug (esp cocaine and alcohol, because of their direct effects on dopaminergic response); KOR agonists work like, and anti-rewarding mechanism within the dopaminergic reward system. KORs are highly populated in subcortical areas (most of our neurotransmitter receptor dense regions are deeper in cortex) that are specifically implicated in conciousness. The claustrum is a KOR dense region that sort of works like a bridge between subcortical areas like the amygdala and hippocampus (think primitive, fear based attentional process; emotions, spatial memory) and higher order visual and association areas (fronto-parietal regions, think directed attention, cogntive control, semantic recognition). So, it's thought to play a role in human consciousness, linking those evolutionarily older subcortical structures to the 'newer' higher order cortical regions. Also, really cool, this patient with intractable epilepsy underwent a surgery to have electrical stimulators implanted in her brain to help treat seizures. when doctors do this, they generally sorta map out the region by sending some electrical stimulation to different regions and seeing what happens on electrodes in other locations. well, they hit the claustrum and and it caused immediate, but reversible, unconciousness in the patient, and correlated response activity was recorded on the parietal and frontal electrodes.
Post by Fitter Happier on Mar 15, 2024 12:56:40 GMT -5
All I know is I entered a new world and thought I was never coming back to this one. No sense of time at all. On the way "out" I had some candy vision and non-stop laughing but then blasted off or whatever. Reminded me of some scene in Monsters, Inc. with all the doors -- I was in a much larger me with a bunch of other mes making up this sort of God-body or whatever. At the time I credited it to my belief that there was a lot more to life (both inner and outer) than what we can see and touch. Who knows? All I know is I came "back" to my body and what seemed like many lifetimes was simply 12 mins. The rest of my friends had moved around my house and could like walk, but I was just simply drooling in my bathroom. It felt like Legos falling into place (kind of like the Matrix) when I came back to. A lot more happened that I couldn't remember. Later, I read other stories of Salvia D and of people living like whole days in other realities and then coming back, pretty wild. I never did DMT, but it didn't sound like too different of an experience when I heard people's first-hand experience with DMT. I did other doses and never had the exact same response. Usually would stop the trip by running out of the room before I blasted off, the other two times I tried to do it. But that first one (my first hallucinogenic experience) was still stronger, stranger, more profound, and more disembodied than any LSD or mushroom trip I ever had.
Edit: This was back in '06-'07, so I had never seen any content on it, had no idea what it was, was just real into weed and drinking at that point and my friends said it was "just like weed, but you only take one hit." So, that was the only thing I knew going in. Lmao.
I never believed it until innocent Miley Cyrus was videoed smoking and geeking. Here she is bong ripping salvia while Bush blasts in the background. Hannah Salvia
All I know is I entered a new world and thought I was never coming back to this one. No sense of time at all. On the way "out" I had some candy vision and non-stop laughing but then blasted off or whatever. Reminded me of some scene in Monsters, Inc. with all the doors -- I was in a much larger me with a bunch of other mes making up this sort of God-body or whatever. At the time I credited it to my belief that there was a lot more to life (both inner and outer) than what we can see and touch. Who knows? All I know is I came "back" to my body and what seemed like many lifetimes was simply 12 mins. The rest of my friends had moved around my house and could like walk, but I was just simply drooling in my bathroom. It felt like Legos falling into place (kind of like the Matrix) when I came back to. A lot more happened that I couldn't remember. Later, I read other stories of Salvia D and of people living like whole days in other realities and then coming back, pretty wild. I never did DMT, but it didn't sound like too different of an experience when I heard people's first-hand experience with DMT. I did other doses and never had the exact same response. Usually would stop the trip by running out of the room before I blasted off, the other two times I tried to do it. But that first one (my first hallucinogenic experience) was still stronger, stranger, more profound, and more disembodied than any LSD or mushroom trip I ever had.
Edit: This was back in '06-'07, so I had never seen any content on it, had no idea what it was, was just real into weed and drinking at that point and my friends said it was "just like weed, but you only take one hit." So, that was the only thing I knew going in. Lmao.
total side note brain nerdery: it's kind of interesting, because salvia is an agonist on kappa opioid receptors and the dopaminergic reward system, but KORs are thought to be a natural regulatory mechanism to help prevent addiction related reward mechanisms. KOR agonists are thought to help downregulate drug (esp cocaine and alcohol, because of their direct effects on dopaminergic response); KOR agonists work like, and anti-rewarding mechanism within the dopaminergic reward system. KORs are highly populated in subcortical areas (most of our neurotransmitter receptor dense regions are deeper in cortex) that are specifically implicated in conciousness. The claustrum is a KOR dense region that sort of works like a bridge between subcortical areas like the amygdala and hippocampus (think primitive, fear based attentional process; emotions, spatial memory) and higher order visual and association areas (fronto-parietal regions, think directed attention, cogntive control, semantic recognition). So, it's thought to play a role in human consciousness, linking those evolutionarily older subcortical structures to the 'newer' higher order cortical regions. Also, really cool, this patient with intractable epilepsy underwent a surgery to have electrical stimulators implanted in her brain to help treat seizures. when doctors do this, they generally sorta map out the region by sending some electrical stimulation to different regions and seeing what happens on electrodes in other locations. well, they hit the claustrum and and it caused immediate, but reversible, unconciousness in the patient, and correlated response activity was recorded on the parietal and frontal electrodes.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
If you still have the profanity filter on do all the drug names in the poll show as popular candies instead?
Caffeine Add it all up! Making Dogs More Alive Night rushes by when you’re having fun! Mushrooms Keeping up with amino acids! Marry, joyous Nick of time Salvation in Jesus Christ X - Los Angeles (by X) Algebra Coauthoring a paper Mess? Cleaning it! Tylenol Loving Sheep Dogs!
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Do you want to dance while also thinking about all the ways you've failed as a human?
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