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this is like saying Tyreek hill would be the best Center in the NBA if he played center since he was 4.
I don't see how something that solely involves speed is comparable to basketball. A lot of the guys who win Olympic gold in swimming are like 6'3.
I don't think competitive swimming pulls a comparative sample size of the world's best athletes today. Entire regions of the world are not represented due to access issues.
There's a huge self-selection and access bias to who specializes in which sports.
You can argue that in a sport like amateur wrestling or swimming that to compete at the highest level you have to get to a higher level of physical conditioning, but that's not the same to me as athleticism.
If he grew up solely doing swimming and gymnastics I have no reason to believe Tyreek Hill wouldn't have multiple gold medals.
If I had learned how to do rugby and practiced really hard and wore my glasses and ate right and read books about doing rugby and had been mentored by, like, the best rugby guy and got a good night's sleep most nights, I have no reason to believe that I wouldn't have been the greatest rugby player who ever rugbyed.
Edit: It may be worth mentioning here that I'm pretty tall.
Are you currently a professional world-class athlete today? I think you missed the point.
If I had learned how to do rugby and practiced really hard and wore my glasses and ate right and read books about doing rugby and had been mentored by, like, the best rugby guy and got a good night's sleep most nights, I have no reason to believe that I wouldn't have been the greatest rugby player who ever rugbyed.
Edit: It may be worth mentioning here that I'm pretty tall.
Are you currently a professional world-class athlete today? I think you missed the point.
No. But it's only because I didn't grow up doing mostly athletics. If I had, I'd probably be the best. I didn't miss the point at all.
Post by jorgeandthekraken on Apr 3, 2024 14:52:39 GMT -5
If I'd grown up being thrown off Hell in a Cell by the Undertaker I'd probably be dead or in a wheelchair. I don't think children's bodies are durable enough to withstand that sort of thing.
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Trying to find the studies but Google is filled with too much junk to shift through.
Basically I mean from the perspective of what contributes most to your overall health or if a person off the street did one sport what would be best for them. So obviously when you frame it like that things requiring higher cardio health or muscle endurance or VO2 max are gonna rate high than having an insane vertical or back squat PR which are more specialized skills. I want say the studies went something like rowing, swimming, soccer, cycling but I can’t remember exactly.
Trying to find the studies but Google is filled with too much junk to shift through.
Basically I mean from the perspective of what contributes most to your overall health or if a person off the street did one sport what would be best for them. So obviously when you frame it like that things requiring higher cardio health or muscle endurance or VO2 max are gonna rate high than having an insane vertical or back squat PR which are more specialized skills. I want say the studies went something like rowing, swimming, soccer, cycling but I can’t remember exactly.
I’ll say it…
There aren’t enough black swimmers for your original statement to be close to correct. Swimming is not what the best athletes this world has to offer are doing.
American football is too high on this list, and I say that as someone who played into my college years and who has a lot of love for the sport even as I have my issues with it.
The thing is, you specialize super-hard in football, so it makes ranking it overall difficult. O-linemen have to be really strong and have explosive power, but not necessarily agile…but CBs need to be quick and not super-strong. Neither of them really has to be good at throwing, and neither of them have to do any sort of steady-state running. No one on a football field does, really.
Meanwhile, rugby (yeah, hi, me, the rugby guy), every player on the field has to be able to run for 90 minutes, push in a scrum or ruck, throw, catch, kick, tackle, change directions quickly, etc. I found it much more athletically challenging. I’m sure some of that could be argued to varying degrees, but American football being that high up and rugby being as far below it as it is makes no logical sense to me.
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also didn't the chiefs just sign like the most athletic rugby player as a special teamer/wr depth piece?
He's certainly a star player, but I'm not sure if he's, like, universally regarded as the world's most athletic rugger. It's an interesting story, though - folks have been talking about this kind of thing for a while. The Cowboys were looking into NZ's Jonah Lomu when he was being talked about as the best rugby player in the world in the '90s, and the Broncos offered him $10 million in 2003.
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Trying to find the studies but Google is filled with too much junk to shift through.
Basically I mean from the perspective of what contributes most to your overall health or if a person off the street did one sport what would be best for them. So obviously when you frame it like that things requiring higher cardio health or muscle endurance or VO2 max are gonna rate high than having an insane vertical or back squat PR which are more specialized skills. I want say the studies went something like rowing, swimming, soccer, cycling but I can’t remember exactly.
I’ll say it…
There aren’t enough black swimmers for your original statement to be close to correct. Swimming is not what the best athletes this world has to offer are doing.
This is wrong. Motherfuckers have swam the Mississippi River. Nyad swam from Havana to Key West. Who knows how far Lecomte swam across the Atlantic. That shit is incredible and among the best athletic feats the world has to offer. Phelps also has the most Olympic medals. No disagreement on not enough black swimmers. I am from a city that is mostly below sea level and surrounded by water. If I made the rules, all kids would be swimming by 4 or 5 years old. It’s probably at least as bad for Latinos. And it’s a generational problem that could be solved in 20-30 years if people had the exposure. Too many kids drown in shallow enough water. A black kid from my neighborhood drowned ina pool at 15. I watched another black friend almost drown on the Guadeloupe River as he bobbed screaming and I tried - to no avail - to swim back to that falls against the current to save his ass. Off the soapbox I don’t know if it’s more important as a skill or sport. But it’s a problem that could easily be addressed. And anyway it’s wrestlings day.
