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Don't even get me started on RADIOHEAD. Talk about a small following.
This is NOT Lollapalooza. It went out of business for a reason.
It is a SHAME to alienate the 'jam band' masses that put this festival on the map by headlining all alternative bands and Tom Petty.
No offense to Tom, but his shows are like Steve Miller shows... just put on the greatest hits CD and press play.
You finally sold out Superfly. I thought it was ll rumors last year, but this year is the switch over. This is the year you turn this into MTV BS. Thanks for using our community to create something huge then SELL US OUT.
You will probably still sell the tickets, but you will lose your most faithful supporters.
Having Radiohead as a headliner is not selling out. There are only so many times you can recycle The Dead,Allmans,WSP as headliners. If Radiohead is good enough to play cochella then they are good enough to play Bonnaroo, which is not even close to selling out. If you take a look at the member in here you will see the majority are opened minded to all types of music, and many are Radiohead fans.
Tom Petty is a rock legend and should get a spot at Bonnaroo..maybe not the 3 1/2 hour, but a co-headliner (2 hours)spot is within reason. He was due to play Bonnaroo NE back in 03 before they backed out due to political reasons with the town, so why not have him play now?
Last but not least is Beck. He played Veagoose which was put on by Superfly Entertainment, who is roo any different? Just looking at what the did with Veagoose I have to say they did a great job mixing up different kinds of music in a 2-3 day span.
I still see the many of the same bands playing Bonnaroo, but they have to expand at the same time. If they start bring in a crap load of top 40 crap and other garbage then many ppl will just go elsewhere.Also, nothing is even set in stone yet, so try not to get extremely upset because there are slight tweaks to the festival.
People have been saying Bonnaroo sold out for years.
I'm really not sure what your complaint is, though. While jambands have been a big part of the festival, a huge part of the draw for me has always been the diversity of the acts. (I don't actually like jam bands all that much, but I've been drawn back to bonnaroo each year). And do you really think that because Beck and Radiohead are going to be headlining that there won't be jam bands there? I somehow doubt that.
I can only assume you are being sarcastic about radiohead having a small following, which is funny since you are worried about them alienating the "'jam band' masses." It's okay to have acts like Dave Matthews that draw huge crowds but they can't bring in an act like Radiohead that draws a huge crowd? (And, by the way, if you want to talk about sell outs, it doesn't get more commercial than Dave Matthews! For that matter, the Grateful Dead -- I mean, come on, you can buy Grateful Dead Incense! At least Radiohead seem to be more interested in the music than the money). If your not being sarcastic, well, I just don't even know what to say to that.
What's your gripe with Beck? I don't really think he's all that commercial either, especially since the song he will always be known for came out, what, twelve - thirteen years ago....he makes plenty of music, and I'm sure he's got plenty of fans, but commercial? really? (I'm assuming that's your gripe, anyway, what with your Clearchannel and sell out remarks.)
Not to rant or anything, but I just get so sick of hearing people complain about how bonnaroo has sold out. If you don't like it, don't go.
the essence of this festival is the exact bands you are calling "recycled". IT was these bands and fans that brought this festival to national prominence.
Why do they "have to expand"? More money? That is the very definition of "selling out". They are VERY profittable, why the DIRE NEED to expand?
It was The Dead/Trey/Dave that gave Bonnaroo their most attended festival. Why jump ship for alternative all of the sudden?
Some people here think that Bonaroo has always been about "mixing it up" and I present to you that this is not only untrue but the lack of mixing it up has given them success. Jam bands and bands that "jam" or improvise have been the draw since day one. Not alternative.
It is a sad day for Bonnaroo and all of the people that put it on the map.
People have been saying Bonnaroo sold out for years.
I'm really not sure what your complaint is, though. While jambands have been a big part of the festival, a huge part of the draw for me has always been the diversity of the acts. (I don't actually like jam bands all that much, but I've been drawn back to bonnaroo each year). And do you really think that because Beck and Radiohead are going to be headlining that there won't be jam bands there? I somehow doubt that.
I can only assume you are being sarcastic about radiohead having a small following, which is funny since you are worried about them alienating the "'jam band' masses." It's okay to have acts like Dave Matthews that draw huge crowds but they can't bring in an act like Radiohead that draws a huge crowd? (And, by the way, if you want to talk about sell outs, it doesn't get more commercial than Dave Matthews! For that matter, the Grateful Dead -- I mean, come on, you can buy Grateful Dead Incense! At least Radiohead seem to be more interested in the music than the money). If your not being sarcastic, well, I just don't even know what to say to that.
What's your gripe with Beck? I don't really think he's all that commercial either, especially since the song he will always be known for came out, what, twelve - thirteen years ago....he makes plenty of music, and I'm sure he's got plenty of fans, but commercial? really? (I'm assuming that's your gripe, anyway, what with your Clearchannel and sell out remarks.)
Not to rant or anything, but I just get so sick of hearing people complain about how bonnaroo has sold out. If you don't like it, don't go.
I have attended every Bonnaroo. People used to hate the fact that Dave Matthews was there, but he proved that he belonged thaere by playing in the instrumental jam band style.
They will still sell tickets this year but the vibe will be weak, more alonjg the lines of the latest "woodstocks". No thanks. Look for more problems, more cops, more idiots, less love and family.
I think they will still have moe. and cheese... relegated to the second or third stage quite insultively.
If you want to see alternative shows so badly, why not go to their lame festivals that cannot sell enough tickets to stay afloat? Why try to change Bonnaroo into something it never was?
And, by the way, if you want to talk about sell outs, it doesn't get more commercial than Dave Matthews! For that matter, the Grateful Dead -- I mean, come on, you can buy Grateful Dead Incense! At least Radiohead seem to be more interested in the music than the money).
You have no credibility or knowledge of music history to make that comment.
I say just ingnore family..they are obviously an attention seeker.
Yeah, you're probably right, but I just can't resist one last response:
"Some people here think that Bonaroo has always been about "mixing it up" and I present to you that this is not only untrue but the lack of mixing it up has given them success. Jam bands and bands that "jam" or improvise have been the draw since day one. Not alternative."
Go back and look at the lineups from previous years. I'll grant you that many of the headliners were jam bands, but there have also always been a variety of artists (such as: Drums and Tuba; Jurassic 5; Cut Chemist; David Byrne; Beth Orton; Yo La Tengo; X-ecutioners; Flaming Lips; Kid Koala; Matisyahu; Ozomatli to name but a few)
"Why are you so defensive about this?" Not defensive, irritated -- because it's pointless bitching
"You have no credibility or knowledge of music history to make that comment." Actually, you have no credibility or knowledge of me to make that comment. And I can make that comment, because I've seen enough commercials that Dave Matthews has sold his songs to to know that he is a sell out. Also, I used to sell Grateful Dead merchandise, so I'm pretty well acquanted with how much of it there is.
And finally, seriously, who uses the term "alternative" to describe any form of music anymore? I haven't heard that since I was in the tenth grade, and I was in the tenth grade a long time ago. Even then, it was used to describe bands like Pearl Jam, not bands like Radiohead.
Post by placidcasual79 on Jan 25, 2006 14:24:04 GMT -5
this all seems a little weird considering the whole radiohead/beck/petty thing is still just rumor. the lineup comes out in a week, and although i'd like to see radiohead again, who knows if they'll even be there. i can totally see the argument for beck/petty not being headliners...i dont think beck should headline anything...i really like him but he should be late nigth or evening before a headliner...same with petty. But radiohead?? how the hell do people not like them...? ok, i can see that, but how do people atleast not respect them? they might seem 'a bit' out of place at roo, but they would definitely win over a majority of the audience...including the 'jam folk'. they have a pretty huge audience. and seriously, who the hell wants to see dave matthews over radiohead regardless of whether they fit in or not?? this will not be like woodstock...its not like they brought in limp bizkit and korn or something. argh...im done ranting.
I realize you're a troll Family, but I'll humor you.
Family, you've made it painfully apparent you're completely ignorant of all music outside of the little "jam" bubble. Radiohead are without a doubt the most critically acclaimed band of the past 10-15 years. They sell out every show they book and make their performances something special. Just because they don't play 40,000 capacity barns (although they've headlined almost every major festival in Europe, with hundreds of thousands of fans, and around the world) at every stop here in the United States doesn't mean they aren't worthy of headlining Roo. Their crowd aren't "trouble" in the least bit and you implying so is just foolish. There are a he!! of a lot more a$s backward stoners who don't know a dam*ed thing about music wandering behind some of the "big jam bands" you've mentioned. I see nothing wrong with this, but don't try and make it sound like all these bands have rabid followings because of their all knowing fans.
If you don't like the lineup, please don't come.
No one has announced anything yet and you're crying over speculation.
Go back and look at the lineups from previous years. I'll grant you that many of the headliners were jam bands, but there have also always been a variety of artists (such as: Drums and Tuba; Jurassic 5; Cut Chemist; David Byrne; Beth Orton; Yo La Tengo; X-ecutioners; Flaming Lips; Kid Koala; Matisyahu; Ozomatli to name but a few)
How many of these bands were headliners? Let's stick to the facts.
Post by suspendedzen on Jan 25, 2006 14:37:04 GMT -5
family also said they shouldnt have radiohead or beck because it resembles lollapalooza and will be a 'massive failure'. The lolla tour folded a couple years ago...when they tried plugging in String Cheese as a headliner. They went back to an alterna-fest last summer and sold out Chicago's Grant Park. Superfly tried doing a 'jamband' tour last year...didnt pan out.
As long as the crowd and the vibe is the same as in past years, I certainly don't mind having "different" kinds of music there. Do I care to see Radiohead? Nope, they're not really my thing. If they do headline one night, it just gives me an opportunity to rest up and get good spots for the late night sets.
I can see the concern about the rumored headliners and at the same time I can't. I think bringing in new types of music/bands is a great thing but at the same time I'd hate to see the thing turn into Woodstock 99. Luckily, I doubt that will be the case.
Post by jambandjohn on Jan 25, 2006 14:39:20 GMT -5
I disagree, family has a very valid point. It was the jamband community that put Bonnaroo on the map in the first place. While adding new bands to the mix keeps things interesting, I will be very disappointed if Superfly has chosen not to feature any jam-related artists...
BTW - a quick search on eBay turned up a "Radiohead Amnesiac KID-A Stainless Steel Wrist Watch" along with other assorted merch crap...
Go back and look at the lineups from previous years. I'll grant you that many of the headliners were jam bands, but there have also always been a variety of artists (such as: Drums and Tuba; Jurassic 5; Cut Chemist; David Byrne; Beth Orton; Yo La Tengo; X-ecutioners; Flaming Lips; Kid Koala; Matisyahu; Ozomatli to name but a few)
How many of these bands were headliners? Let's stick to the facts.
Yeah I realize they weren't headlining. That's why I said in the middle of the statement you quoted that "many of the headliners were jam bands." That doesn't mean the other bands that there didn't draw people to the festival.
Post by suspendedzen on Jan 25, 2006 14:41:47 GMT -5
Right, they wont have 'any' jambands.
Wikipedia isnt the best source of information everytime.
Ive always liked that the people Ive met at Roo had totally open minds to new music...jam, jazz, hiphop, rock, indie...being different and getting along is Family.
Thanks for bringing the 'love' family...you keep making money and dismissing any other kind of music.
We do not keep any profits unlike AC/Superfly.
I am not trying to DIS the music, but it does not belong headlinig at what we have historically known to be Bonnaroo. Just make them a new festival: "Washed-up-one-'hit' (according to Billboadr/MTV/Clearchannel)-wonders-a-roo"
I disagree, family has a very valid point. It was the jamband community that put Bonnaroo on the map in the first place. While adding new bands to the mix keeps things interesting, I will be very disappointed if Superfly has chosen not to feature any jam-related artists...
BTW - a quick search on eBay turned up a "Radiohead Amnesiac KID-A Stainless Steel Wrist Watch" along with other assorted merch crap...
Okay, see, this is a fair way to say this.
I would be really surprised, though, if there were no jam band types at all -- or even if they weren't very prominent.
and, yeah, I'm sure that there is plenty of radiohead merch....I guess where I was coming from with that was more about how they seem to be constantly evolving as a band, whereas what I know of the Grateful Dead all sounds pretty much the same (Dave Matthews too, although I'll admit I'm less familiar with him or DMB) -- but in all fairness, I did bring up the merchandise, so I'll have to concede a little on that (Only a little though because I still think the variety of Grateful Dead stuff is a little outrageous).