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Post by herbalicious on Mar 21, 2007 14:48:57 GMT -5
oleander124 said:
inkybod said:
"edit: I have been a lips fan since most of you were in short pants and only criticize b/c it's necessary so don't smite me too hard. "
herbalicious, Birthday: 03/25/1986.
Yeah...I found that odd, too.
So, herbalicious, when did you become a fan?
Ha, i'm flattered that you guys looked up my birthday - don't forget to send presents. anyways, I've been listening to the flips since junior high (7th or 8th grade) so for almost 10 years. Of course, I'm not as big of a fan as I used to be as my musical tastes are always evolving and changing. Anyways, I think I brought up a good point (regardless of my b-day) and would like to see some debate on the subject.
p.s. most the peeps on this board are probably still in high school which would mean that they were in short pants when I started listening to the lips.
Post by Mrs. Featherbottom on Mar 21, 2007 16:22:38 GMT -5
herbalicious said:
most the peeps on this board are probably still in high school which would mean that they were in short pants when I started listening to the lips.
I would guess the average age is closer to 20, but maybe higher. Furthermore, The Lips were great in '93 with Telepathic Surgery which puts you days before your 8th birthday, short pants or not... Were you really internalizing The Flaming Lips at their least-accessable as a wee 7-year old?
Post by herbalicious on Mar 21, 2007 16:49:26 GMT -5
johnnygunit said:
herbalicious said:
most the peeps on this board are probably still in high school which would mean that they were in short pants when I started listening to the lips.
I would guess the average age is closer to 20, but maybe higher. Furthermore, The Lips were great in '93 with Telepathic Surgery which puts you days before your 11th birthday, short pants or not... Were you really internalizing The Flaming Lips at their least-accessable as a wee 10-year old?
can you do math 93-86=7. I was not listening to the lips when I was seven. however when I was 12 or 13 I was turned onto them (clouds taste metallic) by my big brother, who had been listening to them since the friggin '80s. Is it so hard to believe that a jr. high kid listens to the flaming lips...holy nuts.
Anyways, why don't ya'll stop having hissy fits about my age and read the top half of my post. Realize that I wasn't dissing on the lips but expressing a valid point regarding their live shows.
Post by bloomindaedalus on Mar 21, 2007 17:16:47 GMT -5
"edit: I have been a lips fan since most of you were in short pants and only criticize b/c it's necessary so don't smite me too hard. "
herbalicious, Birthday: 03/25/1986.
Yeah, You weren't even born when i was in short pants. But maybe he meant something along the lines of " I was a fan before the "Yoshimi fans" came along." As the Lips fans do seem to be divided easily into those that liked them before they heard Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots and those that didn't.
Anyway i won't speculate further i'm sure he can answer for himself.
I do think it is totally not the case that the Lips art takes place only in the studio or only on the tour. I think the crazy circus atmosphere of the live act is a manifestation of Wayne's dream and supposition that every wasted rock fan wants to see some sort of psychedelic circus-cabaret. What goes on in the studio is nothing short of amazing as Zaireeka (which still nobody else that i have ever heard about has tried to do...which i find nearly unbelievable speaking as a person who owns more than 12,000 albums and literally hundreds of albums from bands far more "experimental " than the Lips.) and The Soft Bulletin whose arrangements are fantastic. The two aspects really complement each other.
And Maybe Wayne and Micheal Ivins aren't great musicians but Wayne is a fantastic lyricist and Steven and Roland Jones(no longer with the band) most certainly are very very musically talented.
It took me a long time to decide how to see the Lips as mos of my favorite music is very much more complex and "arty" and made by people you'll, sadly, never see at Bonnaroo. But what i realized is that since about Clouds Taste Metallic, the Lips have begun to fulfill a truly amazing feat , one which is a dream of many post modern artists. To manage to be a successful entertainer who also does what they see as following their artistic vision. Its like the very very rare film that ends up with wide box office success and popular appeal which is actually a sophisticated work of art (these are very rare).
And yes the show is designed to sort of be the same on each tour. But they haven't play the same show for three years. A year ago the new album hadn't even come out. They don't always play the crowd favorites but seeing as it took them twenty years to have areal solid fan base, who can blame them?
Personally i'd love to hear more of the older stuff, too and they have covered so many things so well (I know Kliph says he hates it but The Bohemian Rhapsody thing is great....though i have to say that of the many bands i've seen cover "War Pigs" since the Iraq thing the Lips was only second best as the Dresden Dolls cover was more impressive).
I think it is encouraging that they played Breathe and Us and Them at the last Roo even though that was like the height of their popularity with the Yoshimi tour. I just hope we get Late Night. I don't want to wait hours in the sun to get close to the stage....but, if i have to, of course, i will....
"...well yeah the guitar is good accompaniment but you can't like compose with it; I mean you can't base a whole song around the guitar." -Bob Dylan 1965
Sorkin Will Script Flaming Lips Musical The ''West Wing''/''Studio 60'' creator will write the script of a musical based on the psych-rockers' ''Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots''[/b]
By Michael Endelman
The Great White Way will never be the same: In an exclusive interview, Wayne Coyne, lead singer of the Flaming Lips, told EW.com that the psych-rock band will team up with acclaimed TV writer and show creator Aaron Sorkin to turn the group's 2002 album Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots into a Broadway musical.
Sorkin's reps confirmed on Tuesday (March 20) that the West Wing creator has officially signed on to write the musical's script. ''Maybe that means they'll need to build a stage with lots of hallways on it,'' joked Coyne of Sorkin's fondness for walking-and-talking characters. ''It will be a giant tube that's always moving!''
Sorkin is just one of many marquee collaborators attached to the project: Tony Award-winning director/producer Des McAnuff (Jersey Boys, The Who's Tommy) will be overseeing the show. In fact, the unexpected collaboration grew out of McAnuff's fondness for the Lips' acclaimed Yoshimi album. ''When Des heard the record, he heard a lot about death and loss and the triumph of your own optimism... he had an emotional attachment to it,'' Coyne says. The San Diego-based theater producer pursued the idea and convinced the band that the album would make a compelling musical — other songs from the Lips' catalog will likely be included as well — despite the abstract, trippy nature of the source material. ''I tell people all the time, it's not really a story. It's more like a mood,'' Coyne says. ''There's a Japanese girl; she fights some robots; that's five minutes. After that I don't know.''
Sorkin was brought in by McAnuff, who recently directed Sorkin's play The Farnsworth Invention at the La Jolla Playhouse. According to Coyne, the TV scribe listened to Yoshimi while driving from San Diego to Los Angeles; the next day he signed on to write the ''book'' of the musical. ''I didn't know if that was a big deal or not,'' Coyne explains. ''But then Des [McAnuff] called me and said, 'Believe me, that's a big deal!'''
The musical's debut is likely years off, and details of the plot aren't specific yet.
Coyne compares the proposed concept to Terry Gilliam's dystopian sci-fi movie Brazil. ''There's the real world and then there's this fantastical world,'' explains Coyne. ''This girl, the Yoshimi character, is dying of something. And these two guys are battling to come visit her in the hospital. And as one of the boyfriends envisions trying to save the girl, he enters this other dimension where Yoshimi is this Japanese warrior and the pink robots are an incarnation of her disease. It's almost like the disease has to win in order for her soul to survive. Or something like that.'' Sounds bizarre, but so does a musical about a ''deaf, dumb, and blind'' pinball virtuoso. That one turned out okay.
Post by stuckinutero on Apr 11, 2007 13:15:39 GMT -5
Truth of the matter is 90% of people who listen to the FLips started during 1 of 2 periods
1) 99-02. The SB/Yoshimi stretch. 2) Good ole 1993, or the release of Transmissions. A particular FLips song floods college radio, a nation falls in love with jelly and vaseline.
From what I've gathered in my time here, Im a baby on this board. Im 22 and most of the regular posters that I see on here are in their late 20s. So yeah, Id choose my words a little more carefully when taking the condescending "Im older and wiser" approach.
As for the FLips set rotation (or lack thereof), they're one of the few bands I know that actually admit to the fact that they make music in the studio and have no clue how they're going to pull it off live. However, their last Roo performance was one for the ages. I don't feel like digging up the set-list, but it was very diverse for a FLips show. They even did one of my all-time favs, Lightning Strikes The Postman.
Despite the repetetive sets, they are still one of the few bands that I would follow up the coast at this point. There are very few things in this world that will make you feel better than a FLips show, and most of them are illegal.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
Post by greecianlover on Apr 11, 2007 18:12:53 GMT -5
gougeaway said:
They are my wife's favorite band. I hope I don't get smited for this, but musically I think they are somewhat subpar live. That being said you will never see a show quite like a Lips show. They bring in an energetic, spontaneous, visual aura to their shows that really makes their live act stand apart from other bands today. However, I just can't put them on the pedestal that I put live bands like My Morning Jacket, Radiohead, Phish, Tool, etc. etc. who create vast soundscapes and are dedicated to producing the best possible music they can play live. And Wayne Coyne freely admits they are not the best musicians, and this is the reason for the Spectacle of the Flaming Lips Live. They make up for their deficiencies by creating an experience unlike no other. But you are right, their studio work far surpasses their live output, at least musically, if only b/c in the studio they have more tools at their disposal to "get it right."
my 2 pennies.
also, I'm stoked for them to be at Bonnaroo again.... Long overdue...
I am not going to smite you, and hopefully I don't get smited for this:
People need to realize that not every band is a jamband. In fact most bands aren't. Other than jambands most bands do not switch up their setlist night to night. TOOL plays damn ner the exact same show every single time, and I don't hear to many people complaining about that. Same goes with about 75% of the bands at Bonnaroo. I would put money on the Police having a setlist about 90-95% simlar to the rest of their tour.
I have seen many bands multiple times, some jambands, some not. I have seen some of the jambands more than the rest of the bands I have seen, because they do switch it up. That being said, I would still take the exact same Radiohead show over and over and over again, rather than any jamband show. Just because a band switches it up night to night does not make them the better band.
Long story short, if you have seen the Lips before, and do not want to see the same show, go to something else. Some of us have seen the Lips numerous times, and while the show may be near identical every time, it is a better party than you will ever be to in your life, and I can't wait to go to that party again!
Long story short, if you have seen the Lips before, and do not want to see the same show, go to something else.
Unpossible!
I can't believe anyone who's seen their live performance in the past wouldn't want to see it again. I'm sure people like this exist somewhere (even on this board), but I'm also sure they're few and far between.
Post by stallion pt. 2 on Apr 11, 2007 20:17:55 GMT -5
Cool picks Danbird Heres some pics from their show at red rocks last Summer.
This is what the Lips will look like if they play a stage during the evening (except now they have a spaceship, too). If they do late night, magnify the spectacle by 100 or so.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
You know, before getting into this board, I wasn't planning to hit the Lips show. Now I've told the wife it's a can't miss. I like the music...but I LOVE ME A SPECTACLE!
i just saw the lips last night at UF. They played the same exact setlist as they did when i saw them at Voodoo fest last October. Maybe they will pull something amazing out for bonnaroo.
Post by stuckinutero on Apr 19, 2007 11:30:08 GMT -5
evanw said:
i just saw the lips last night at UF. They played the same exact setlist as they did when i saw them at Voodoo fest last October. Maybe they will pull something amazing out for bonnaroo.
If you're talking about the free show, then they absolutely did not. It's actually the reason why I'm bumping this thread. I was rather disappointed last tour that they didn't play one of my favorite new songs. They did however play it for the first time ever at that show, and it sounds amazing. Even the less than pristine recording I have sounds on par with the album
Pompeii Am Gotterdammerung got played, with the giant gong and all. They also added a few more jams (Zeps Kashmir included) into the set.
We've all had this discussion before. Most bands don't change their setlists that much during tours. The FLips are definitely one of those bands. I guess its just a matter of perspective. Just being at a FLips show is good enough for me.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
