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Post by purplefuzzystuff on Apr 15, 2008 23:42:23 GMT -5
See the way I ensure that I am not let down is by assuming I will be let down......if that makes sense.....I like to think it is going to be a super huge announcment but then convince mself I won't even care about it once they do tell us.....so I just have super low expectations....I'm sad and somewhat cynical about it until of course the announcement is made then I am blown away lol
Post by plasticpepper on Apr 15, 2008 23:44:28 GMT -5
great, now I'm singing Jim Croce because that just made my brain go...
I've overcome the blow, I learned to take it well I only wish my words could just convince myself that it just wasn't real...but that's not the way it feels!
That pretty much sums up me trying not to get my hopes up!
Post by harrisonford on Apr 16, 2008 0:15:11 GMT -5
I was all over the first round of clue-guessing, but got busy at work, etc. Jumped back on the thread tonight, and wow, it's all action. I tried to read through everything, but there's mucho to review, so if these ideas have been covered, I apologize in advance.
Hate to keep stirring the Zep pot after being so let down the first time by NME, but here's a few more interesting "coincidences":
Dancing references, including Zimmy's picture - Dancing days are here again?
On Physical Graffiti, "In My Time of Dying" ends with: "I'm going to make it my dyin', dyin', dyin'..." and at this point a member of the band or recording crew (possibly Bonham) can be heard coughing. Plant humorously adds "cough" as an apt final word for the song. (check Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_My_Time_of_Dying). This song was also performed by Dylan, who's real name is Robert Zimmerman, and who's nickname is Mr. Zimmy.
Post by plasticpepper on Apr 16, 2008 0:29:10 GMT -5
There was a reference to Maria Muldaur's "Midnight at the Oasis"...I don't remember the context...but I'm pretty sure DJ JD said it was a red herring to throw us off because we were getting too close.
The Stubhub thing makes it seem like Roo would sell out.. all the sudden there is an official reseller? they haven't really sold out before a couple days beforehand, so why would stubhub suddenly be interested? They get a cut of the sales going through their site, so unless roo tickets would have a huge demand, I don't see the need... anyone else?
The Stubhub thing makes it seem like Roo would sell out.. all the sudden there is an official reseller? they haven't really sold out before a couple days beforehand, so why would stubhub suddenly be interested? They get a cut of the sales going through their site, so unless roo tickets would have a huge demand, I don't see the need... anyone else?
... interesting, I agree. AND... this Thursday is exactly 1 week from the day the 2nd payment was due for the 2 part pay plan. Now they've given the "true roo" fans their opportunity to get in & get the tickets before the rush. what if. what if. what if. what if.. ugh. i agree with an earlier post too.. how any/all of it could point to zep if we twist it that way...
Post by purplefuzzystuff on Apr 16, 2008 0:41:21 GMT -5
Yeah, there are so many clues coming from so many different places it is getting pretty hard to follow.....but I am impressed pepper and wolfman are really on top of it....I feel like if I can expect an answer out of anyone it would be one of them
And that is not to discount the others who have contributed
Post by plasticpepper on Apr 16, 2008 0:41:42 GMT -5
I sort of think the same thing about the StubHub agreement, but I'm not sure it quite makes sense. If they announce something huge, is anybody going to SELL their ticket at that point? People will snap them up from official ticket sales, but nobody will be selling so fan-to-fan ticket sales won't really increase. Unless I'm missing something?
Edit: And wow, purplefuzzystuff, thanks for the kind words...and here I thought I was completely useless at this!
Edit again: And on that note I've gotta head to bed...no classes tomorrow so I'll be around as much as possible working on this...I'm expecting lots of fun clues!
I sort of think the same thing about the StubHub agreement, but I'm not sure it quite makes sense. If they announce something huge, is anybody going to SELL their ticket at that point? People will snap them up from official ticket sales, but nobody will be selling so fan-to-fan ticket sales won't really increase. Unless I'm missing something?
Edit: And wow, purplefuzzystuff, thanks for the kind words...and here I thought I was completely useless at this!
Edit again: And on that note I've gotta head to bed...no classes tomorrow so I'll be around as much as possible working on this...I'm expecting lots of fun clues!
Apparently no one on this thread has ever bought a Bonnaroo ticket on eBay. I have the last two years and I can assure you that there is already a very large resell market from the time tickets go on sale up untill and past the first day of Bonnaaroo. People buy tickets months ahead of time and shit happens and they sell their tickets. Led Zep at Bonnaroo should decrease the resell market, since people will try harder to make it instead of selling their ticket. What would drive a higher resell market is if the line-up got suddenly worse, like ABB canceling and being replaced with something less popular, like WSP. By promoting re-sell, the promoters help quell the backlash of angry ticket buyers, disappointed with the final line up and stuck with a ticket they no longer want.
^well damn... i never thought of it like that.. i REALLY hope that's not the case.
They wouldn't want to promote scalping, but they would want to be able to say, "We're sorry you don't want your ticket anymore, but we can't give you a refund, but StubHub will be glad to help you get rid of it."
*sigh* that does make a lot of sense. im just gonna stick with the awesome announcement idea in my head for now though LOL. we'll see what thurs brings.
No way. After it was made clear that Led Zeppelin would not be there when the lineup was first announced, there's very few if any people that bought tickets only hoping to see Zepp, that are going to dump because they're not the big news. I also don't see thousands of people buying tickets to a 3 day festival and then not going because the Allmans pull out, maybe a few dozen. However, if Zepp does play there will be tens of thousands of people that will sell their tickets. Think about it, if you could get $500 over face for your ticket would you sell? You may not, but plenty of poorer people will. Heck a lot of people could sell, and afford a ticket, hotel, gas etc. to another festival or maybe even two. You'll see a lot of poor, non hardcore Zepp fans sell, and a lot of rich 40 and 50 somethings jetting in to see Zepp. Hey look at it this way, they might not want to camp out for 3 days, so maybe it won't be as crowded the first few days for the other great acts. One thing that will piss me off is if it's not Zepp. Not because i'll be dissappointed, it's always been a huge mega long shot, but because it seems like the promoters like to lead us on. It would be easy for the promoters to say big announcement Thursday(no not Zeppelin, some one else big) but instead they seem to encourage Zepp rumors and hopes and dreams. I'm sure more than a few people have thought, man they're hinting around about Zepp, it's going to be an instant sellout, I better go ahead and buy a ticket. So if it's not Zepp the promoters are using the Zepp rumors to sell tickets, that's wrong in my book.
Personal opinion, there's only 3 things they could announce that would qualify as big. 1. Zepp. 2. Pink Floyd with Waters and Gilmour. I saw Water Dark Side of the Moon show in 2006, it was great, and perfect for Roo, but since it's already at coachella, you'll have to get Gilmour on board to make it "BIG" 3. Guns and Roses, the full band. This one may not be that crazy. Just as Stone Temple Pilots are back together after the Velvet Revolver bust up, GnR could well do the same. If Chinese Democracy is done they have a few tens of million$ of reasons to bury the hatchet and go on tour.
Clapton might just qualify as big, depending on who he has with him. Winwood would be great, after reading his book I don't think Cream is possible, he sounded like he was done with it after the NYC gigs.
Post by candyflippedaround on Apr 16, 2008 2:09:09 GMT -5
i was under the impression ticket resellers were the same thing as an agency, where they would scoop up a large # of tickets at once from the event, then resell them at a higher price.....
See the way I ensure that I am not let down is by assuming I will be let down......if that makes sense.....I like to think it is going to be a super huge announcment but then convince mself I won't even care about it once they do tell us.....so I just have super low expectations....I'm sad and somewhat cynical about it until of course the announcement is made then I am blown away lol
This is exactly my mindset about it. Its like when you anticipate getting a 40% on a test so when you get a 70% you're thrilled. But all you people keep getting my hopes up!
Post by SouthGA_Festival Machine on Apr 16, 2008 2:25:11 GMT -5
"No way. After it was made clear that Led Zeppelin would not be there when the lineup was first announced, there's very few if any people that bought tickets only hoping to see Zepp, that are going to dump because they're not the big news."
When was this, cause there sure as hell seem to be a lot of people on this board still thinking LZ atleast might still show up and these are some of the best informed people in the world on the subject of Bonnaroo. Just as there are still lots of people who think that Sadam was involved in 9/11, there are lots of people who are expecting LZ (see the rumors thread for other common beliefs by casual fans.) =================== However, if Zepp does play there will be tens of thousands of people that will sell their tickets. Think about it, if you could get $500 over face for your ticket would you sell? You may not, but plenty of poorer people will. Heck a lot of people could sell, and afford a ticket, hotel, gas etc. to another festival or maybe even two. You'll see a lot of poor, non hardcore Zepp fans sell, and a lot of rich 40 and 50 somethings jetting in to see Zepp. Hey look at it this way, they might not want to camp out for 3 days, so maybe it won't be as crowded the first few days for the other great acts. ===================== If Zep does play, yes lots of people will go for the money and sell their tickets, but this situation is not something that is in the interest of the promoters to promote. They don't want Festival fans dumping tix to Zep fans, some of whom Will only come for Zep and not spend as much money on food, etc. as the people who originally bought the tickets would have, which it has been established is where Most of the Profits come from. So their is no moral or financial incentive for SF/AC to promote resell in that scenario.
i was under the impression ticket resellers were the same thing as an agency, where they would scoop up a large # of tickets at once from the event, then resell them at a higher price.....
In practice yes, but it is still promoted as a sort of ebay for tickets where people who have conflicts can keep from Losing money on tickets they can no longer use, which is of course the official justification for Bonnaroo affiliating itself with it.
Post by themeyersman on Apr 16, 2008 6:12:30 GMT -5
For the umpteenth time....LED ZEPPELIN IS NOT GONNA FRIGGING BE THERE. The clues dont falsely lead to led zeppelin. bonnaroo.com is not hinting at led zeppelin. everytime there is a goddamn clue everyone does zeppelin research and makes outrageous connections to the clues. blue steel....la tigra....its all the same face!!! doesn't anyone else notice this!?! I feel like i'm taking crazy pills. I invented the piano key necktie...I invented it!!!
OK, I think I got it. Remember the sphere-ville hints? And the other clues relating to Knoxville? Remember the Simpsons episode where Bart, Millhouse, Martin and Nelson go to Knoxville? They knock over the Sunsphere and what is being stored inside of it