Bush to call for 20 percent cut in gasoline use

well put, where my reptilians at?!

i like to compare our election system to going to a restaurant that only has 2 dishes. a bowl of sh.it and a bowl of puke. im gonna say no thanks and walk out disgusted. thats how i feel about voting.

and i dont see what some insignifigant nra meeting brought up in a michael moore film has anything to do with alex jones and conspiracies.

but you did remind of something i forgot earlier. i forgot to add michael moore movies to the list of things republicans bring up when they have no answers for direct questions about reality, along with bill clintons sex life and calling people unpatriotic. what does a 5 year old michael moore movie and the nra have to do with alex jones and your repeated accusations of lies, fabrications, and conspiracies? its this alternate reality that religious conservatives live in. if your gonna blast the guy then give an example or 2. shouldnt be too hard if youve followed his evil path for 3 years. or maybe you just caught a clip from a michael moore movie and part of a bush speech. or a bill oreilly fox news expose'

Dude you just love to argue no matter what. I spoke nothing of Bush or republicans so to infer what u did was nothing more than trying to bash and flame. I drew apon michael moores film b/c it was popular. To show how Moore paints a false reality and Alex Jones does much of the same. Alex jones has a conspiracy for just about everything (this is b/c he makes money doing so) I heard him on the radio in chicago for years and everyday a new conspiracy (that was why he was on the radio) he's in the business of fear and conspiracy. So is Moore


Gtwrecked I aggree big time the 2 party system leaves us with fewer choice. However look how many democrats are in the running but all u hear about is Obama (oprah's pet) and Hillary clinton (the left wing media darling). There sre other good candidates in both parties the problem is the people who support Obama and Hillary have the $$$ and the power b/c they DO VOTE

this country would be way different if people like DUDE voted. perhaps the other canidates could ride up out of the pack. If you don't vote U have just about zero say in anything and for many i think they want it that way just so they can say there a victim instead of actually trying to take steps to improve this country. You can say what u want about BUSH lover him or HATE him. At least he put himself out there and has made his view points heard. He wasn't afraid to do so. Neither should we......WE HAVE THE POWER. WE JUST NEED TO USE IT. Stop believing guys like alex jones and michael moores of the world. We don't need them to tell us the "truth".....WE should be out there living the truth......

and to be clear. im not disagreeing with you. show me what hes lied about and ill check it out. i dont think this guy is perfect but i dont form my opinions off of what i hear form someone esle that has thoier head in the ground avoiding reality at all costs. i dont see anythign n his website that is false. again its all one sided but true. so please show me an instance of him creating fear through lies and conspiracy. ill just go do it myself. i doubt ill get anywhere otherwise.


and as i said i dont like dems either. as far as i can tell he exaggerates things greatly and creates public disturbances to get attention. thats a far cry from lying about national security to create fear so your policies will pass. alex jones is an extremist. but hes extreme about things based in fact. not just made up stuff. although his terror storm movie has some things that would fall into the fearful conspiracy category it wouldnt surprise me if there was some truth in there somewhere. i dont buy all of it but i certainly beleive the government radicalizes groups that otherwise wouldnt be. and some of his points would make for a good reason to lock these people up in secret prisons and allow them no contact with anyone.
www.infowars.com/articles/terror/false_flag_terror_of_the_nwo.htm

and he is a tool in the same way that bill orielly or bush is. just on different sides of the fence. but hes an insignifngnt radio show host. not the ppresident of the united states.

heres a website that talks about his more radical moments. as pointed out by someone who cant stand him. some of which created changes. and some that are out there. but nothing on th scale of the current president.

www.politicalhobbyist.com/debunked/alexjones.html

and i dont get my info from michael moore or alex jones. in fact this is the first ive heard of him. cnn dosent cover the same kinda crap that fox news does. alex jones is more of a benefit to republicans then he is to dems. thast why fox news talks about him and portrays him as some sort of voice of the liberals. thats crazy. and i wouldnt use anything from his site without checking the facts.

but i had never heard of the guy before yesterday, and in 15 minutes i found many things that could have supported your point man. thats all i wanted. wasnt arguing, just asking for some facts about him, not moore and the nra.
oh well ill let it go. just more of the same unoriginal and unrelated thoughts that republicans are so fond of.

I have never seen Alex Jones on Fox news!! he mayhave been but I never seen him. he was on the mancow show a lot in chicago for a few years. I don't need to post his work on this thread u have already said he is an extremist. Also u have done research and seen that some of his movies even in your opinion seem a little biased. that's all I am saying whether u like BUSH or nor is cool. Alex Jones has an agenda implies the same tactic as moore to get his points out......facts based around a reality mistruths or half truths and stuff out of context......

Unless you VOTE the republican unoriginal ideas or the democrats plan (whatever that is) will stand. So vote and change things is all we can do....if u don't vote than all u can do is post on message boards and pray the rest of us change things!!!!

there are always a ton of other people to choose from....plus the dems and republicans do have some good canidates but they are hardly heard of as well......so u have more options but we feel we don't b/c we listen to Oprah the media instead of forming our own opinions or the world has us so busy we don't have time to pay attention. This is what they want us to do. Not vote plan and simple......there are good canidates but b/c the US voting population is so narrow we don't hear about it.......the political landscape would change big time (for better or worse) if we all voted....I think this is what a US is looking for a new face...not a political insider and b/c most don't vote the people in power have all the say and push the agenda.

ross perot???? ya theres a good alternative. and what did the dems and republicans do after that? they made it so that others cannot partciapate in debates or get federal campaign funds.

perot got rich off of medicaid and medicare and then runs by talking crap about a defecit that was caused in great part by medicaid and medicare. he was barely profitable before the governement contracts. he was anti-abortion. he was for expanding the war on drugs, he called african americans 'you people". not exactly my idea of a great alternative.

and he constantly dropped in and out. ive never heard of threats on his life causing him to drop out. although he did claim that the republicans were trying to disrupt his daughters wedding and thats why he dropped out. he was border line insane. just another billionaire texan that got rich off the government and now wants to run it.

well I never said u had to like Perot just saying there are alternatives if u look and VOTE..he may not be your alternative or even a good one that still is no excuse not to vote!!...perot made money within the medicare system. he came up with a software system to help better manage the medicare process. Yes the gov't bought his materials b/c they had the most use for it and yes some private companies did as well. So what if he is a billionaire.....that is what this country is about......come up with something good and u can get $$$$.....that is capitalism. TI want people in congress who are self made and know what it take sto get things done and get it done correctly. Not for sure but DUDE are u a socialist???Just asking b/c it seems u have a HUGE problem with people that have money.

Ohh almost forgot I have no proof Perot's life was threatened or if it wa sbut I am very skeptical on why he did drop out seems fishy. Plus I have seen things like that happen 1st hand......

and my point was that perot was not an alternative. he was more of the same.
name me one politician who isnt wealthy. just another one sided feature of american politics.

while l i do have a problem with most who have money. but not because they have it. its what they do with it. brad and angelina can talk all they want. but they are buying 3 million dollar mansions in new orleans and acting like they are helping. why by a 3 million dollar manison when thousands have no home??? or while children are starving. you dont need mansions and private jets and ferraris. certainly not while children that are dying could be saved fo a few dollars a year. and you dont need a 40 million dollar marble school in south africa for 152 students. 40 million dollars shoud educate thousands.

greed is the root of all evil. thats why i have a problem with the greedy people.

do tell. im curious about your first hand witness of something like that.

o.k. my 1st hand experience is my dad is a truck driver mand has been since I was a little kid. My dad hated how things were being run by the union. pretty much they were crooks ripping people off and screwing the drivers every which way. my dad decieded to run for the president of his drivers union. My dad had this won easily people wanted a change and wanted a driver to be president b/c he knew how to fix things. well my Dad had a gun put in the small of his back and was told very clearly if he continues this GUn won't just be for u.....so my dad dropped out pretty much a no brainer. He had a wife and 4 boys so he wasn't going to risk his life....so I see how ugly things can get and how big money has power however we cna change things. It might not be easy but they can change

ohh I have no problem stating my DAD is not MLK. That is why i said that b/c u have to be willing to pay the ultimate sacrifice sometimes ........Being president of a trucker union wasn't worth that risk!!!

sorry about the typos....POS....haha j/k

well i couldnt disagree more. are ya surprised?

well their economy has broadened greatly. we are not the only country that fuels chinas economy. and it would collapse our economy quicker then it would theirs. china has more of a grip on us when push comes to shove. other countries arent going to break off ties with china. its a billion people that are getting more and more money everyday. we cant and they cant either. its also estimated that the military technology in china is equal to ours and will surpass us by 2012. add to that the fact they have control over 1 billion people. and the fact that they have just tested missles that take out sattelites. ith out our gps guided bombs and navigation, and without our surveillance from space wed be screwed against a billion people with a more advanced military. not to menton weve burned alot of bridges. if china was serious i think theyd get more of a coalition against us then we could against them.