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Saturday is the 7th anniversary of the school shooting at NIU. In the years since then my emotions about how horrible that day/week was have softened but the pure anger I get from every new incident only gets worse. It's the same cycle of initial outrage and calls for change then NRA and gun nuts make their defense. People ask lawmakers to do something about it, lawmakers agree something must be done but nothing happens. 2 weeks later nothing is said of that particular shooting ever again.
If Sandy Hook didn't bring about serious changes in gun laws, then I am really worried about the scope of whatever tragedy will bring about change.
What kind of changes would you advocate for or like to see put into place? The whole situation is a tough one for me because I do believe that people can be responsible with guns and they shouldn't be punished because of others who snap and do things like this but it's so hard to tell if someone will commit murder like this guy has. I think some kind of updates to gun laws could help and also some more focus on mental health issues but even then....if this guy wasn't seeking help for mental problems and if he had been a law-abiding citizen for years and years (I don't know the status of either....just a hypothetical) then I'm trying to think of a way this could have been prevented.
I say all this as a person who owns no guns and doesn't feel the need to at this moment in my life. I just know this whole topic is pretty complex and not sure what the best course of action is. It's also tough when there are lobbying interests who turn things into a political game instead of focusing on making the country a better place. It's a tough road ahead but I do think we shouldn't just sweep this under the rug like happens so very often.
I would say the first step is to close the Gun Show loophole, but let's be honest every other one of these crazy shooters bought their stuff at Walmart.
I'm not super well-versed on the topic, but canada has, what I would consider, pretty reasonable restrictions on gun control. I think basic restrictions would work wonders.
My SO's roommate scheduled a pity party wine night for Friday. Which was the night I had surprise reservations for Valentine's Day. Sweet.
Could you send the roommate a message about said plans and see if they'll change the pity party? Or just tell your SO about the reservations. It ruins the surprise but I'm sure they'll still find the gesture romantic and sweet.
I would say the first step is to close the Gun Show loophole, but let's be honest every other one of these crazy shooters bought their stuff at Walmart.
Yea, I remember learning about that loophole type of thing from TV shows like The Simpsons and Always Sunny. They'd use it as a joke but it is definitely scary how easy it seems to be to get guns.
I'm not super well-versed on the topic, but canada has, what I would consider, pretty reasonable restrictions on gun control. I think basic restrictions would work wonders.
I think my biggest beef is that semi-automatic weapons are legal in the US. who the fuck would ever actually need to possess that kind of weapon?!
Yeah, it's absurd how Congress doesn't have the political will to implement basic, common-sense regulations such as universal background checks. Also, I just can't comprehend why people in this country love guns so much. They put the 2nd amendment on a pedestal as if it's the most important "God-given right" in the Bill of Rights. I find the 2nd amendment defense to be rather weak considering we didn't have an organized military at the time, nor anywhere near the technologically advanced weaponry that exists today.
I don't know where to begin. I can't stop crying. My puppy is the devil. I should have never gotten her. She is a Beagle and is 5 months old. I've had her since she was 9 weeks old. I thought she would get easier to take care of as she got older but she just keeps getting worse and worse and I can't take it anymore. She wakes up at 3AM every morning barking and scratching at her crate. When I take her out, she just wants to play so I now ignore her when she wakes in the middle of the night. She always falls back to sleep after half an hour but it takes me forever to fall back asleep after I get woken up. She always wakes up anywhere between 5-6:30AM to go out and I put her back to bed afterwards but, again, it takes me at least 30 minutes to fall back to sleep after I'm woken up. She then wants to get up for good around 8AM. I haven't had a full 8 hours of straight sleep since November. I feel like a zombie or what I assume a zombie feels like.
During the day, I try to keep her in the living room. I used to have an exercise area gated off for her in the dining room but she would just sit and whine and bark the entire time she was in there. Now we have the dining room, kitchen and family room blocked off with the gates. This way, she is always with me. I was hoping this would help with the whining and barking but nope. Whenever a cat walks by the gate, the howling starts. Or when she hears someone in the other room. Or when she hears a car on the road. It's maddening. She has recently figured out how to climb over the gates and when she gets free she usually goes into the kitchen to eat the cat food or she heads into the family room to rip my nephew's stuffed animals to shreds. She refuses to come and hides under the dining room table. I'm so tired of chasing her down all the time. She completely ignores her toys - and she has a ton of them. I spent a lot of money on her toys so it would be nice if she would play with them once in a while. Instead of playing with her toys, she tries to chew on the couch, the recliner and the desk. She has destroyed the two rugs in here. I take her outside three times a day for 45 minutes each time along with a good 30 minutes of fetch in the backyard - despite it being below zero outside - it's currently 10F and we just came back in from a walk. All of these walks and playtime doesn't seem to drain her of any energy. She rarely sleeps during the day. I try to do 3-5 minute training sessions randomly throughout the day but they don't seem to be helping anything. She pretty much just ignores me or tries to steal the treats out of my hands. She doesn't come when called and doesn't do any commands unless I have a treat - not just any treat, it has to be either cut up hot dogs or chicken. She steals shoes right off your feet and loves to steal slippers. I have told her "NO" a hundred and one times. It feels like I'm always yelling at her. I've tried the bitter spray but she actually likes it and will lick it off of whatever I've sprayed in on. She is a huge biter especially while playing but other times as well. When I pick her up and she doesn't want to be picked up (for example, to put her back in the living room after climbing over the gate), she bites. When I tell her no or try to take away something she shouldn't have, she will snap at me - not aggressively but more like she thinks I'm playing. I can't leave her alone for a second. I have a crate for her but she goes nuts when she is in it. She got her paw caught on the wire door once and I think it freaked her out. I don't like putting her in it and the only time she goes in it is at night when she sleeps. The only time I get a shower is when my dad comes over on Saturday mornings to watch her. I'm too scared to leave her alone for more than 10 minutes because who knows what trouble she will get into.
I love her so much and she has her sweet moments but sometimes I get so frustrated that I just want to get rid of her. I know if I get rid of her, I will regret it. I wish I could send her off to someone else to train her how to behave and then give her back to me once she has calmed down a bit. I'm taking her to puppy obedience classes on Sunday afternoons and she does awesome during class. Everyone comments about what a sweet, calm dog she is. During class, she will sit, stay, lie down, come and other commands just fine but, at home, she is a completely different dog and completely ignores me. I'm at my wits end. I think I'm going to call my dad and see if he will watch her after work today. I need some time away from her or I'm going to lose my mind. I don't know how much longer I can take.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Feb 11, 2015 13:04:30 GMT -5
Ally - have you read any books or watched any youtube videos for advice? Sorry you're having troubles but you should know that 5 months isn't old enough to be "easier to take care of when older". Not by a long shot. My dog is a few years old and still getting into things. After the first year or so things should get a bit easier but it all relies on your training methods and if you stick to them. Your obedience classes should be a help but you've also got to stick with it and be strong when not in the class. You are her pack leader now so if you give up then she will give up.
You say the dog wakes up in her crate at night and when she does you let her out. As far as I am aware (we tried crate training but didn't stick with it for a few reasons) you're supposed to leave them in the crate. Every time you go to get her when she cries it's teaching her that all she has to do is whine/cry and you'll come let her out.
There are also other methods of getting the dog to quiet down or training them to not get into things. Puppies are a lot of work and dedication so good luck to you. I know i've cleaned up my fair share of messes from my pup over the years.
I don't know where to begin. I can't stop crying. My puppy is the devil. I should have never gotten her. She is a Beagle and is 5 months old. I've had her since she was 9 weeks old. I thought she would get easier to take care of as she got older but she just keeps getting worse and worse and I can't take it anymore. She wakes up at 3AM every morning barking and scratching at her crate. When I take her out, she just wants to play so I now ignore her when she wakes in the middle of the night. She always falls back to sleep after half an hour but it takes me forever to fall back asleep after I get woken up. She always wakes up anywhere between 5-6:30AM to go out and I put her back to bed afterwards but, again, it takes me at least 30 minutes to fall back to sleep after I'm woken up. She then wants to get up for good around 8AM. I haven't had a full 8 hours of straight sleep since November. I feel like a zombie or what I assume a zombie feels like.
During the day, I try to keep her in the living room. I used to have an exercise area gated off for her in the dining room but she would just sit and whine and bark the entire time she was in there. Now we have the dining room, kitchen and family room blocked off with the gates. This way, she is always with me. I was hoping this would help with the whining and barking but nope. Whenever a cat walks by the gate, the howling starts. Or when she hears someone in the other room. Or when she hears a car on the road. It's maddening. She has recently figured out how to climb over the gates and when she gets free she usually goes into the kitchen to eat the cat food or she heads into the family room to rip my nephew's stuffed animals to shreds. She refuses to come and hides under the dining room table. I'm so tired of chasing her down all the time. She completely ignores her toys - and she has a ton of them. I spent a lot of money on her toys so it would be nice if she would play with them once in a while. Instead of playing with her toys, she tries to chew on the couch, the recliner and the desk. She has destroyed the two rugs in here. I take her outside three times a day for 45 minutes each time along with a good 30 minutes of fetch in the backyard - despite it being below zero outside - it's currently 10F and we just came back in from a walk. All of these walks and playtime doesn't seem to drain her of any energy. She rarely sleeps during the day. I try to do 3-5 minute training sessions randomly throughout the day but they don't seem to be helping anything. She pretty much just ignores me or tries to steal the treats out of my hands. She doesn't come when called and doesn't do any commands unless I have a treat - not just any treat, it has to be either cut up hot dogs or chicken. She steals shoes right off your feet and loves to steal slippers. I have told her "NO" a hundred and one times. It feels like I'm always yelling at her. I've tried the bitter spray but she actually likes it and will lick it off of whatever I've sprayed in on. She is a huge biter especially while playing but other times as well. When I pick her up and she doesn't want to be picked up (for example, to put her back in the living room after climbing over the gate), she bites. When I tell her no or try to take away something she shouldn't have, she will snap at me - not aggressively but more like she thinks I'm playing. I can't leave her alone for a second. I have a crate for her but she goes nuts when she is in it. She got her paw caught on the wire door once and I think it freaked her out. I don't like putting her in it and the only time she goes in it is at night when she sleeps. The only time I get a shower is when my dad comes over on Saturday mornings to watch her. I'm too scared to leave her alone for more than 10 minutes because who knows what trouble she will get into.
I love her so much and she has her sweet moments but sometimes I get so frustrated that I just want to get rid of her. I know if I get rid of her, I will regret it. I wish I could send her off to someone else to train her how to behave and then give her back to me once she has calmed down a bit. I'm taking her to puppy obedience classes on Sunday afternoons and she does awesome during class. Everyone comments about what a sweet, calm dog she is. During class, she will sit, stay, lie down, come and other commands just fine but, at home, she is a completely different dog and completely ignores me. I'm at my wits end. I think I'm going to call my dad and see if he will watch her after work today. I need some time away from her or I'm going to lose my mind. I don't know how much longer I can take.
first off, this is why I would never ever recommend anyone getting a beagle - they are known to be very poorly mannered and difficult to deal with dogs. (not meant to be a knock on you at all, just that I'm not surprised your pup is troublesome.)
that being said, with a lot of training, I'm sure she can be a great dog. bringing her to obedience classes is a great start. you'll want to make sure you are implementing the same training methods in class as you are in home. I would recommend either finding an expert to help you train (maybe talk to the obedience class teacher to get more info? I've never done any professional obedience training with my dogs, but I'm sure there's some good help out there if you look for it. I've read quite a few good training books back in the day too, so maybe head to barnes & noble and see what you fine. I taught my dog agility as a 5th grader (granted, he was a border collie), but all the training methods I learned were via book.
and 5 months is a difficult age. your pup is still learning what he can get away with and what he can't. sounds like he's figured out a lot of things he can get away with, and will continue to do so unless proven otherwise. I see a lot of people baby their dogs in these kinda of situations, but that only induces more bad behavior.
with consistent training you should be able to fix his bad habits. him growing out of the puppy stage will help too. and neutering, if he isn't already.
Ally I feel your pain girl. I have a 1 1/2 yr old that I adopted and its clear he wasn't taken care of in his last home. We are still having potty issues and destroying stuff, but I am very adamant with my training. I kennel trained all three of my dogs (only have the two due to a breakup and like I said one is super new) and as long as you stick to it, it will get easier. I know it is rough. I woke up to 5 pairs of my underwear destroyed, 2 pairs of my tights/leggings, a pair of my son's and my boyfriends underwear destroyed, pee and poop in three different spots a couple weeks ago. We thought he was trained, slacked on kenneling and that was our reward. That morning I was done, but remembered even though he is over a year, is still a puppy and still new to our house and learning the rules.
It will get better. Have some patience and good luck.
Ally, i pride myself in my dog training abilities and i had a VERY hard time with my old beagle. They need lots of attention, exercise, and toys. It will get better. Expect 2 years of this "awesome" behaviour. And some things will not go away. They are total jerks but super sweet. Best of luck to you! The only dog i've had a harder time with was my bulldog!
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Post by potentpotables on Feb 11, 2015 14:42:06 GMT -5
I missed the gun control conversation. I used to be a big gun rights guy (even though I've never held a gun or touched a gun, much less own one). But Sandy Hook really changed me. Having two nephews and a niece in public schools, I just can't sit on the side of gun owners now. Sure, there are plenty of responsible gun owners. And sure, the 2nd amendment exists and we can argue about what it means. And sure, "the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
But seriously, how can you not look at other industrialized nations, look at their gun restrictions, look at their gun deaths, and draw a correlation and in this case causation? How can someone look at the Dunblane massacre and the change in UK gun laws and the effects on gun deaths and not think this is a good thing? We are the only industrialized nation in the world that has this problem on this scale.
The only concern is whether we are too far past the bridge at this point - do we already have too many guns on the streets? It's possible that's the case and we've reached the hopeless point of no return.
I don't know where to begin. I can't stop crying. My puppy is the devil. I should have never gotten her. She is a Beagle and is 5 months old. I've had her since she was 9 weeks old. I thought she would get easier to take care of as she got older but she just keeps getting worse and worse and I can't take it anymore. She wakes up at 3AM every morning barking and scratching at her crate. When I take her out, she just wants to play so I now ignore her when she wakes in the middle of the night. She always falls back to sleep after half an hour but it takes me forever to fall back asleep after I get woken up. She always wakes up anywhere between 5-6:30AM to go out and I put her back to bed afterwards but, again, it takes me at least 30 minutes to fall back to sleep after I'm woken up. She then wants to get up for good around 8AM. I haven't had a full 8 hours of straight sleep since November. I feel like a zombie or what I assume a zombie feels like.
During the day, I try to keep her in the living room. I used to have an exercise area gated off for her in the dining room but she would just sit and whine and bark the entire time she was in there. Now we have the dining room, kitchen and family room blocked off with the gates. This way, she is always with me. I was hoping this would help with the whining and barking but nope. Whenever a cat walks by the gate, the howling starts. Or when she hears someone in the other room. Or when she hears a car on the road. It's maddening. She has recently figured out how to climb over the gates and when she gets free she usually goes into the kitchen to eat the cat food or she heads into the family room to rip my nephew's stuffed animals to shreds. She refuses to come and hides under the dining room table. I'm so tired of chasing her down all the time. She completely ignores her toys - and she has a ton of them. I spent a lot of money on her toys so it would be nice if she would play with them once in a while. Instead of playing with her toys, she tries to chew on the couch, the recliner and the desk. She has destroyed the two rugs in here. I take her outside three times a day for 45 minutes each time along with a good 30 minutes of fetch in the backyard - despite it being below zero outside - it's currently 10F and we just came back in from a walk. All of these walks and playtime doesn't seem to drain her of any energy. She rarely sleeps during the day. I try to do 3-5 minute training sessions randomly throughout the day but they don't seem to be helping anything. She pretty much just ignores me or tries to steal the treats out of my hands. She doesn't come when called and doesn't do any commands unless I have a treat - not just any treat, it has to be either cut up hot dogs or chicken. She steals shoes right off your feet and loves to steal slippers. I have told her "NO" a hundred and one times. It feels like I'm always yelling at her. I've tried the bitter spray but she actually likes it and will lick it off of whatever I've sprayed in on. She is a huge biter especially while playing but other times as well. When I pick her up and she doesn't want to be picked up (for example, to put her back in the living room after climbing over the gate), she bites. When I tell her no or try to take away something she shouldn't have, she will snap at me - not aggressively but more like she thinks I'm playing. I can't leave her alone for a second. I have a crate for her but she goes nuts when she is in it. She got her paw caught on the wire door once and I think it freaked her out. I don't like putting her in it and the only time she goes in it is at night when she sleeps. The only time I get a shower is when my dad comes over on Saturday mornings to watch her. I'm too scared to leave her alone for more than 10 minutes because who knows what trouble she will get into.
I love her so much and she has her sweet moments but sometimes I get so frustrated that I just want to get rid of her. I know if I get rid of her, I will regret it. I wish I could send her off to someone else to train her how to behave and then give her back to me once she has calmed down a bit. I'm taking her to puppy obedience classes on Sunday afternoons and she does awesome during class. Everyone comments about what a sweet, calm dog she is. During class, she will sit, stay, lie down, come and other commands just fine but, at home, she is a completely different dog and completely ignores me. I'm at my wits end. I think I'm going to call my dad and see if he will watch her after work today. I need some time away from her or I'm going to lose my mind. I don't know how much longer I can take.
Obviously this is a frustrating thing, because puppies are just babies who can run and chew. It's awful. But one of the most important things I've noticed with training young animals (my mother is a vet and we always had rescued animals in the house) is attitude. These animals have an incredible sense of what your feeling, so when you get frustrated, overwhelmed, and antsy, so will your pup. I've never dealt with a Beagle, but I can't imagine it's too different with them. I've had tremendous results with being consistent and always trying to lead by example. The other tips in here have been great, so just thought I'd offer another one.
And if it doesn't work, at least you won't be as stressed!
In regards to the gun control debate, it all boils down to: money talks.
The NRA has deep pockets, lobbyists out the ass, an incredible PR campaign, and a legion of sociopaths and conspiracy nutters ready to fend off American tyranny under Obama or Hillary. Once you get past that whole money issue, those who favor gun control have a fighting chance.
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Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
The doctor thinks I have a fucking lodged kidney stone. Just got back from an ultrasound where I had to have a full bladder for the test. I think it fucking shifted because this is the worst fucking pain I've ever had in my entire fucking life. I think I may have to leave work early. I'm sitting at my desk trying not to scream fucking bloody murder. God damn it.
Edit: FUCK.
Been there. Just don't eat anything because it will be coming back up. And there is literally nothing else I can say to help because kidney stones are real jerkstores.
GUHHH. I hate this stupid never ending 30-page report booklet stupid thing I'm working on and even more so the incompetent people working on it that I have to direct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
GUHHH. I hate this stupid never ending 30-page report booklet stupid thing I'm working on and even more so the incompetent people working on it that I have to direct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Been there. Hang in there for a few more hours. Then go drink.
GUHHH. I hate this stupid never ending 30-page report booklet stupid thing I'm working on and even more so the incompetent people working on it that I have to direct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Been there. Hang in there for a few more hours. Then go drink.
the other obstacle is that I have to leave in an hour to go straight to my serving job, and these files are due to the client... :/
and after 9 rounds of revisions the internal team wants to make adjustments. I'm stressing and pissed and there is NO ONE in the office on the account team to help me out. BLAH.