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Look, I've tried to be neutral about this... I've been Switzerland, not taking sides, just enjoying the chocolate, ya know? But it boils down to this: GRRRR to pettiness & all the BS in life that bogs us down!
Uncle Kev, I'm deeply sorry to hear about your father's passing. I went through that (albeit at a young age) so I know your pain and sympathize with you. I'll keep sending vibes of comfort your way. I've never met you IRL, so we don't have a friendship like I have with so many on here, including Phi, LLL, Abra, Dave, the mods, and tons of other Inforoosters. I didn't know a single one until 2010, but I do now because I've spent time with them over the years and built strong bonds with them. I would take a bullet for every single member of this board, that's how much I love every one of them!
That said, if you met us & got to know us IRL, you'd see that we all truly care about each other. We aren't a clique or a table of cool kids. Hell, we're all some of the most quacked-up misfits the world has ever seen. That's why we all get along so well! We're friends and we stand up for each other. But we also call each other out on BS when one of us steps out of line; that's what friends do.
I don't care who has a disagreement with whom. I don't care who gets butthurt over a post. It's the internet; it's gonna happen. But I *do* care when BS grudges bring a negative vibe into the one place in the world that I can call home. It's my happy place. I love everyone in here, even the members I haven't met IRL.
Yeah, I know I've got a Pollyanna complex & just want everyone to get along and be all shiny happy and all that jazz. But what's so wrong w/that? I'm not taking anyone's side; I just want a pervasive vibe of unity up in here! This is home to me, and when anyone has an issue, it feels like there are muddy footprints being tracked through my house, ya know? I know it's impossible for EVERYONE to get along with everyone else 24/7, but for the sake of a harmonious vibe, can we all at least try to tone down the negativity? Please?
EVERYONE in here has amazing qualities that make them a valuable member of this family. EVERYONE in here has the ability to be civil and courteous to their fellow members.
Life is short, and nothing... absolutely NOTHING that happens on here is worth being petty & hostile to another member. GRRR to a lack of peace in everyone's lives. GRRR to life sucking so much sometimes. But together, we can treat each other with respect and help each other - even the ones we haven't met IRL yet - get through it. Sorry to be so preachy, but damn...that's why we're on this earth. Peace & love all around, y'all!
Word, Holls. And I don't think this sounds "preachy" -- even remotely. I think it sounds like an admirable ideal. I certainly hear you, and value the expression. I hope the "other side" does too.
For me, in this thread, this all started tonight with me sincerely trying to make amends with EAP. And then, for their own reasons, Phi and LLL decided that just wasn't good enough. So they put their beaks innit. But somehow, I still end up looking like the "divisive" one? Bullsh*t.
I think I've already shown a willingness tonight to own a mistake, and try to make peace. If that isn't suitable to certain others, then they're the ones who need to go back and re-read your message. Because (apparently), there's no such willingness coming from them.
When you say you "would take a bullet for every single member of this board", that group also includes me. The fact that we've never actually met "IRL" is EXACTLY my point about how the lines of loyalty seem to get drawn here. And there's something very wrong with this.
It was a great message just the same, and I'm grateful to have gotten it.
Word, Holls. And I don't think this sounds "preachy" -- even remotely. I think it sounds like an admirable ideal. I certainly hear you, and value the expression. I hope the "other side" does too.
For me, in this thread, this all started tonight with me sincerely trying to make amends with EAP. And then, for their own reasons, Phi and LLL decided that just wasn't good enough. So they put their beaks innit. But somehow, I still end up looking like the "divisive" one? Bullsh*t.
I think I've already shown a willingness tonight to own a mistake, and try to make peace. If that isn't suitable to certain others, then they're the ones who need to go back and re-read your message. Because (apparently), there's no such willingness coming from them.
When you say you "would take a bullet for every single member of this board", that group also includes me. The fact that we've never actually met "IRL" is EXACTLY my point about how the lines of loyalty seem to get drawn here. And there's something very wrong with this.
It was a great message just the same, and I'm grateful to have gotten it.
I've met you IRL and I still think you're a POS and hope you logout and lose your password.
I'm sure your dad is really proud of you, Kev. I'm sure the first thing I'll do after my dad passes away is troll a message board. You are obviously mental.
I don't give a goddang quack how harsh this sound. I don't quacking like you. I've never liked you. This isn't about Internet social groups. It's about you being an insufferable jerkstore everytime you post on here. quack you. quack you. quack you.
You surf around threads and pick on people to start trouble. That's all I've ever seen you do. You certainly don't add anything positive to the board. NEVER have I seen you bring anything positive to this message board.
WHO IN THE quack comes into a thread and belittles a teacher's classroom pet dieing and compares it to their father passing away???? You are quacking insane.
Just go the quack away.
P.S. You also suck at comebacks/put downs/ jokes in general. It's like Eddie Murphy vrs. a deaf hobo with no tongue. You are that bad. It's embarrassing, to be honest.
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I don't give a goddang quack how harsh this sound. I don't quacking like you. I've never liked you. quack you. quack you. quack you. Just go the quack away.
P.S. It's like Eddie Murphy vrs. a deft hobo with no tongue.
"Eddie Murphy vs. a deft hobo with no tongue" ?
Boy, you just don't hear this clever kind of diss every day. You did say "deft", right? Hell, who knows what you're trying to say. Quack it, I guess. Right? quack a quackin quackmuh quack. Nicely mumbled, SFA. Have another boilermaker!
Yeah, I could really give a quack. If you didn't make such an effort to cause drama, I wouldn't know who you where. As I've already said, you mean nothing to this place. You are quacking useless. Quacking leave.
I'm sure your Dad is looking down from heaven with pride at the moment. quacking summers breeze in a sac.
Again, fucking leave. and another fuck you on your way out.
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There are a lot of bad things happening to a lot of good people. I''m going to assume that it is the frustration from these incidents that is pouring (spewing) out onto these pages.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Aug 23, 2012 9:32:32 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. This is not the first time this has happened and last incident ended with an apology of sorts to some members and everyone moved on. Now it happens again, completely unprovoked by EAP and few people call him on it, he apologizes and the people who have the ability to partake in the day time move on like nothing happened. So the behavior has been reinforced. I'm quite concerned about this pattern. So what about next time? Are we going to resolve to accept it each and every time over and over?
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Aug 23, 2012 9:41:59 GMT -5
Grrrrrr to the high price of used cars these days! I feel old making comments like this, but what the hell happened to being able to buy a good used car for a grand or two?
Also grrrrrr to Sarah not having at least a year long respite in the yay thread. Lord knows she deserves it. Hugs chica
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I respectfully disagree. This is not the first time this has happened and last incident ended with an apology of sorts to some members and everyone moved on. Now it happens again, completely unprovoked by EAP and few people call him on it, he apologizes and the people who have the ability to partake in the day time move on like nothing happened. So the behavior has been reinforced. I'm quite concerned about this pattern. So what about next time? Are we going to resolve to accept it each and every time over and over?
We take each incident into account. The first is being dealt with.
My concern is this second one, was all over, and he apologized directly to the offended party. Then it gets reopened after the fact, complete with some members making some highly inappropriate references that I would not make to my own worst enemy.
Wow, not loving the vibe in here at all. Sorry that everyone's dealing with more serious sadness but I thought I'd share...
GRRRRR to my husband who won MMJ tickets on the radio, realized we can't go and told the dj to keep them. Not to be awful but we coulda either given them to a friend or sold em to pay for Tedeschi Trucks tix....
Wow, not loving the vibe in here at all. Sorry that everyone's dealing with more serious sadness but I thought I'd share...
GRRRRR to my husband who won MMJ tickets on the radio, realized we can't go and told the dj to keep them. Not to be awful but we coulda either given them to a friend or sold em to pay for Tedeschi Trucks tix....
Ha, my friend won tickets to a show in Brooklyn this summer, and then he sold them and bought us Tedeschi/Trucks tickets. Weird.
I respectfully disagree. This is not the first time this has happened and last incident ended with an apology of sorts to some members and everyone moved on. Now it happens again, completely unprovoked by EAP and few people call him on it, he apologizes and the people who have the ability to partake in the day time move on like nothing happened. So the behavior has been reinforced. I'm quite concerned about this pattern. So what about next time? Are we going to resolve to accept it each and every time over and over?
We take each incident into account. The first is being dealt with.
My concern is this second one, was all over, and he apologized directly to the offended party. Then it gets reopened after the fact, complete with some members making some highly inappropriate references that I would not make to my own worst enemy.
The problem is that there is a distinct day shift/ night shift here and we night shifters have an opinion about things too and the need and right to express said thoughts regardless. And there in lies the problem of timing and whether or not something is really a closed matter or open. To us it is open. You had the opportunity to express your thoughts on it or perhaps you would feel differently. I'm not so sure that if you had stumbled upon it at midnight that you would have held your tongue. Perhaps but perhaps not. We will never know. Others apparently felt even stronger about the matter than even I did. For them I cannot speak. I opted to simply put him on ignore shortly thereafter
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Wow, not loving the vibe in here at all. Sorry that everyone's dealing with more serious sadness but I thought I'd share...
GRRRRR to my husband who won MMJ tickets on the radio, realized we can't go and told the dj to keep them. Not to be awful but we coulda either given them to a friend or sold em to pay for Tedeschi Trucks tix....
Ha, my friend won tickets to a show in Brooklyn this summer, and then he sold them and bought us Tedeschi/Trucks tickets. Weird.
Funny! They're playing a tiny venue here so tix are $50 bucks a pop which stretches the music budget tighter than it should. Sam Bush Saturday, plus we are taking the kids with us to Galactic and possibly Trampled by Turtles. All that and I didn't win the damn Powerball again
Post by itrainmonkeys on Aug 23, 2012 15:43:13 GMT -5
The problem is that there is a distinct day shift/ night shift here and we night shifters have an opinion about things too and the need and right to express said thoughts regardless.
There's a way to express your thoughts/opinions without being intentionally harsh and insulting (and that's a general statement...not directed solely at you LLL ). You wanted to insult UncleKev for his posts and while you may be doing an honorable thing in defending other inforoosters while also voicing your opinion I do tend to believe that two wrongs don't make a right. We all get emotional and say things in the heat of the moment and a lot of us have strong opinions on things...so heated posts are to be expected from time to time. I just wish we as a board could do a better job of avoiding this type of drama.
I just wish that everyone here can try to move forward. We're trying to deal with these incidents in a timely and fair fashion but the situation gets more and more complicated with each post.
The problem is that there is a distinct day shift/ night shift here and we night shifters have an opinion about things too and the need and right to express said thoughts regardless.
There's a way to express your thoughts/opinions without being intentionally harsh and insulting (and that's a general statement...not directed solely at you LLL ). You wanted to insult UncleKev for his posts and while you may be doing an honorable thing in defending other inforoosters while also voicing your opinion I do tend to believe that two wrongs don't make a right. We all get emotional and say things in the heat of the moment and a lot of us have strong opinions on things...so heated posts are to be expected from time to time. I just wish we as a board could do a better job of avoiding this type of drama.
I just wish that everyone here can try to move forward. We're trying to deal with these incidents in a timely and fair fashion but the situation gets more and more complicated with each post.
I stuck with the tone of previous posts, including one that was put forth by a mod. And I think everyone will move forward, but keep in mind that if other members of inforoo are approached by someone in a similar fashion in the future, the same group of us who feel the need to stick up for our fellow board members will do so again. It is human nature in a social group to do so. And it is human nature in a social group to feel that one is a part of any and all incidents and discussions that have or are occurring. That is why 12 hours later it continues. The wave of day shifters came in and had their say about something that ended at 5am, for the second time. Message boards like this would have threads only 2 pages long if people didn't feel the need to put in their two cents about anything and everything, whether it seemed to be resolved or not. Jam bands, hip hop, relevance of artists, butt hurts, insults etc etc. We aren't going to reinvent the human brain here.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We take each incident into account. The first is being dealt with.
My concern is this second one, was all over, and he apologized directly to the offended party. Then it gets reopened after the fact, complete with some members making some highly inappropriate references that I would not make to my own worst enemy.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Aug 23, 2012 16:05:59 GMT -5
Since I can't see what you are saying, I am going to pretend like it was something pleasant. And in return for your pleasantries, I would like to offer additional condolences to you and your family as you continue to work through the death of your father. I hope that you find peace.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Aug 23, 2012 16:08:16 GMT -5
Right, but when is the cutoff point?
Hypothetical situation:
Let's say there's an issue between two posters. It gets nasty. Both parties are talked to, they make amends, and the problems are dropped and we can move on.
Now let's say someone comes back from a month long vacation where they didn't have internet. They see the fight between the two posters and take offense to something that was originally said (and apologized for) some time ago. They get angry and insult/criticize the person who said that original mean/nasty thing.
Is the person allowed to express their opinion? Sure, there's no rule against it. Is it necessary that the person brings up the drama that had seemingly been put behind the two posters? Of course not.
You can post your opinions/feelings all you want. It's an open board. I just know it makes our job more difficult when the drama can't just be dropped and people keep bringing it up (even after the craziness has died down).
All that said please don't think i'm criticizing you LLL or saying that you shouldn't post your opinions. I'm just trying to give another perspective on these things