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Post by Jazzmaster on Oct 22, 2007 19:25:34 GMT -5
Someone gave me an Oink invite and I want to give it away to one of you. Oink is an invite only file sharing site (torrents only I believe), and what I have heard is that they have around 700-1000 new files per day and there is a TON of music. I'm sure not how the system works, but maybe the person who uses my invite link will be able to get some more invites and give them to other people. apparently Oink has a ton of music and its fairly hard to get a hold of an invite, so maybe you all can get a bunch of invites off this link I have. I hope so. Anyway, first person to send me a PM gets the invite link. Good luck to everyone.
that really sucks... uh - i dont like that part about the criminal investigation. but i highly doubt that much will come of it. er, or at least i hope that.
i really need to go home at lunch and shut off azureous....
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the RIAA likes to go after users - but i cant see interpol really doing it. i mean, how can they prove what you actually downloaded? i mean - sure a torrent file - but thats not exactly an mp3 from the oink site.
Post by Jazzmaster on Oct 23, 2007 14:08:48 GMT -5
Oh, lol I just pmed a guide on how to use torrents...should have checked this thread first.
Basically the RIAA cracks down on people sharing files, and when they do it is usually on p2p users. Programs like Limewire are watched frequently.
Using torrents is fairly safe, and as long as you aren't sharing files then you should ok. No need to worry. I strongly recommend not using Limewire though, and if you do DISABLE the file sharing option.
Post by trippindaisy on Oct 23, 2007 14:13:46 GMT -5
zdlr said:
Oh, lol I just pmed a guide on how to use torrents...should have checked this thread first.
Basically the RIAA cracks down on people sharing files, and when they do it is usually on p2p users. Programs like Limewire are watched frequently.
Using torrents is fairly safe, and as long as you aren't sharing files then you should ok. No need to worry. I strongly recommend not using Limewire though, and if you do DISABLE the file sharing option.
I never uploaded any music if that's what that means.........
Oh, lol I just pmed a guide on how to use torrents...should have checked this thread first.
Basically the RIAA cracks down on people sharing files, and when they do it is usually on p2p users. Programs like Limewire are watched frequently.
Using torrents is fairly safe, and as long as you aren't sharing files then you should ok. No need to worry. I strongly recommend not using Limewire though, and if you do DISABLE the file sharing option.
I never uploaded any music if that's what that means.........
Thank goodness I was slack and never figured out how to upload
Post by Jazzmaster on Oct 23, 2007 14:18:50 GMT -5
Well I'm not sure how the RIAA would keep track of people uploading music to sites like rapidshare.com and such, I don't think they really could do much about it. However, I know that on Limewire the file sharing option is automatically turned on, and you have to turn it off to be safe because they can track that. Otherwise it shares everything in your shared folder. Its been along time since I used it, so I'm not completely sure about the details, but thats the general idea.
They are really cracking down on college students and they are observing file sharing on limewire frequently. Lots of students have been getting copyright notices from the RIAA.
Here is what the letter actually says:
February 28, 2007 Re: Notification of Copyright Infringement Claims CASE ID# Dear Sir/Madam: We have asked your Internet Service Provider to forward this letter to you in advance of our filing a lawsuit against you in federal court for copyright infringement. We represent a number of large record companies, including EMI Recorded Music, SONY BMG MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT, Universal Music Group and Warner Music Group, as well as all of their subsidiaries and affiliates (“Record Companies”), in pursuing claims of copyright infringement against individuals who have illegally uploaded and downloaded sound recordings on peer-to-peer networks.
We have gathered evidence that you have been infringing copyrights owned by the Record Companies. We are attaching to this letter a sample of the sound recordings you were found distributing via the AresWarezUS (Ares) peer-to peer network. In total, you were found distributing 321 audio files, a substantial number of which are sound recordings controlled by the Record Companies.
The reason we are sending this letter to you in advance of filing suit is to give you the opportunity to settle these claims as early as possible. If you contact us within the next twenty (20) calendar days, we will offer to settle the claims for a significantly reduced amount compared to what we will offer to settle them for after we file suit or compared to the judgment amount a court may enter against you. If you are interested in resolving this matter now, please contact our Settlement Information Line at 913-234-8181 or, alternatively, you may settle this matter immediately online at www.p2plawsuits.com/, using the CASE ID# that appears at the top of this letter.
In deciding whether you wish to settle this matter, here are some things you should consider: • The Copyright Act imposes a range of statutory damages for copyright infringement. The minimum damages under the law is $750 for each copyrighted recording that has been infringed (“shared”). The maximum damage award can be substantially more. In addition to damages, you may also be responsible for paying the legal fees we incur in order to pursue these claims, and are subject to having an injunction entered against you prohibiting you from further infringing activity. • Now that you are aware that a lawsuit may be filed against you, there is an obligation for you to preserve evidence that relates to the claims against you. In this case, that means, at a minimum, the entire library of recordings that you have made available for distribution as well as any recordings you have downloaded, need to be maintained as evidence. Further, you should not attempt to delete the peer-to-peer programs from your system – though you must stop them from operating. For information on how to do this, you may visit www.musicunited.org/.
This is a serious matter and to the extent you have any questions, we strongly encourage you to contact us to ask those questions. Finally, if you would like more information regarding music downloading/file sharing and peer-to-peer networks, please visit www.p2plawsuits.com/.
IF WE DO NOT HEAR FROM YOU WITHIN TWENTY (20) CALENDAR DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS LETTER, THEN WE WILL FILE SUIT AGAINST YOU IN FEDERAL COURT. We are not your lawyers, nor are we giving you legal advice. We urge you to consult with an attorney immediately to advise you on your rights and responsibilities. Sincerely, Donald J. Kelso
I use limewire - but interestingly - I download the software - upload whatever songs I want and then remove the software (obviously - I don't use it all that much) But I have always made sure to go in a disable filesharing. So I musta been doing something right - but methinks that now I will not even do that any more
Post by strumntheguitar on Oct 23, 2007 17:49:44 GMT -5
when it comes to piracy, taking is definitely better than giving unfortunately.
My roommate learned that one last year. He was an avid limewire user and sharer and one day he got an email listing every single song he had downloaded from limewire in the past year and it said if he didn't provide evidence that he removed them from his computer immediately he would be charged and sued and all that nonsense.
Of course, all it took was a few blank CD-Rs and he was home free but still... it's lame.
Post by mulcherry0420 on Oct 23, 2007 18:10:58 GMT -5
all of this is very interesting..To think of all the programs i've used to dl music (NAPSTER, Kazzaa, Bear Share, Lime Wire). All of these were from my 8th grade year till about Senior year of high school 00-05'. I will never touch any of those anymore. Ive been using utorrent, demonoid, nugs.net, Furthernet, and archive...What i do after the files are downloaded into you "download" file, cut the album/show and move it to the c drive. I always thought that they could only look into the direct download file that the music is originally downloaded into? I dont know if that helps any but i still do it.
So, i was thinking - in all the articles, it talks about the pre-release offerings of oink. like, that was the reason they took it down. my current, hopeful, thought is that they might go after the people who released cd's early - not your average sharer...
I'm not sure they can see what you "were" seeding unless you are logged in. I only say that because when my friends are logged out, it shows nothing in their seed list. Now that the site is down, I'm not sure how they will find out what we were specifically sharing/taking, but they probably have a way. Let's hope that OiNK & Azureus don't keep logs of activity.
Unfortunately there are lots of ways of tracking things, esp if they were onto them before the bust.....but hopefully they were after the top dogs and not just the users.....
I'll stick to my awkward workarounds....they may be more time consuming but less risky......
Post by Jazzmaster on Oct 23, 2007 20:42:57 GMT -5
mothersky said:
So if you're IP is found on Oink (mine's on there) and they see that you were seeding torrents or whatever, then they can or can't file suit?
I don't think they will go after individual users. Keep in mind there were 180,000 + users of the site, its going to be hard to crack down on individuals, and it will cost a lot of money and will take an immense amount of time. I think the RIAA will be pretty content with taking down the site. They just scored a huge victory.
Like I said before, the real crackdown on individual users is with college students (and other people, but mainly college students since we are imfamous for piracy). who share songs via peer to peer programs like Limewire and Ares.
I gave a donation, so there's at least that record on me. Plus, I had Azureus up all day and didn't close it until good ol' Inforoo once again kept me in the know - thanks guys, I'd be in the slammer without ya! Or, I guess I should say, I'll be in the slammer with ya! Just so long as I don't have to serve more than 230 days, I'll be okay.
You'll be fine....I'm with ZDLR....I don't see them having the bandwidth to come after the casual users....they'll go after the Big Fish first....and that will take all the resources.....they will long have moved on before they get to any of you guys!
but still... it's lame. 
