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Wedding planning is so taxing... I feel like we spent so much time talking about plans for it, but we've not actually done any actual planning. We're doing venue visits this week and am hoping to get something locked down by the first week of March, second week at the latest. There is just so much to consider when trying to decide on a venue it's making my head spin. Someone please tell me it gets easier when you get the venue locked down.
I'm also trying to talk myself out of the venue I love because it has no real wet weather back up. It's seriously the most perfect venue I can imagine, but if it rains we're fucked.
Do you guys have a dry season, where it barely rains at all for like three months?
You funny. You got jokes. Sydney rains on something like 140-odd days per year (more than London!) so we're gambling with about a 40% chance on any given day.
Wedding planning is so taxing... I feel like we spent so much time talking about plans for it, but we've not actually done any actual planning. We're doing venue visits this week and am hoping to get something locked down by the first week of March, second week at the latest. There is just so much to consider when trying to decide on a venue it's making my head spin. Someone please tell me it gets easier when you get the venue locked down.
I'm also trying to talk myself out of the venue I love because it has no real wet weather back up. It's seriously the most perfect venue I can imagine, but if it rains we're fucked.
Is renting a tent an option?
Sadly, not really. The park where the venue is prohibits any sort of canopy, tent, or other structure. I say we should just rent one to have on hand, chuck it up and ask for forgiveness later if need be, but Monica's not having it.
Unfortunaely not. The venue is in the Royal Botanical Gardens, So no marquees are allowed because we can’t strake anything into the ground. There is technically an indoor space, but it’s so small that it’s not a realistic wet weather replacement for the grassy area where we’d do the ceremony & then use as a dance floor.
It’s real purdy tho. Lion Gate Lodge Royal Botanical Gardens Sydney if you want to creep on it!
That's gorgeous! Reminds me kinda of where I got married, in Frankenmuth, Michigan. Yours has much fancier chairs, tho.
Unfortunaely not. The venue is in the Royal Botanical Gardens, So no marquees are allowed because we can’t strake anything into the ground. There is technically an indoor space, but it’s so small that it’s not a realistic wet weather replacement for the grassy area where we’d do the ceremony & then use as a dance floor.
It’s real purdy tho. Lion Gate Lodge Royal Botanical Gardens Sydney if you want to creep on it!
That's gorgeous! Reminds me kinda of where I got married, in Frankenmuth, Michigan. Yours has much fancier chairs, tho.
Oo. I like that you had water tho. I wanted a water view, but I love the “aesthetic” of this place that I’m compromising on the water view. And no furniture actually comes with the venue (another tick in the con column) and I found a place that hires out white plastic chairs that look pretty much like those in that photo for $2/pc. So it’s a possiblilty. Bc I’m a bride on a budget guys. I’m just tryna look as fancy as I can for as little money as possible. 😂😂
Wedding planning is so taxing... I feel like we spent so much time talking about plans for it, but we've not actually done any actual planning. We're doing venue visits this week and am hoping to get something locked down by the first week of March, second week at the latest. There is just so much to consider when trying to decide on a venue it's making my head spin. Someone please tell me it gets easier when you get the venue locked down.
I'm also trying to talk myself out of the venue I love because it has no real wet weather back up. It's seriously the most perfect venue I can imagine, but if it rains we're fucked.
Best of luck. 6 weeks away from my day, sooooo looking forward to getting it behind us and being on the honeymoon.
My fiance was pretty set on getting married in our hometown, which made picking the venue pretty cut and dry. The guest-list, time of the wedding, and deciding honeymoon destination has been the most difficult for us. My mom has been a huge help financially, but with that comes her wanting to control a lot of the factors. It also feels like it has dominated the majority of our conversations since the holidays.
How anybody goes through the stress of getting married multiple times is beyond me.
Wedding planning is so taxing... I feel like we spent so much time talking about plans for it, but we've not actually done any actual planning. We're doing venue visits this week and am hoping to get something locked down by the first week of March, second week at the latest. There is just so much to consider when trying to decide on a venue it's making my head spin. Someone please tell me it gets easier when you get the venue locked down.
I'm also trying to talk myself out of the venue I love because it has no real wet weather back up. It's seriously the most perfect venue I can imagine, but if it rains we're fucked.
Best of luck. 6 weeks away from my day, sooooo looking forward to getting it behind us and being on the honeymoon.
My fiance was pretty set on getting married in our hometown, which made picking the venue pretty cut and dry. The guest-list, time of the wedding, and deciding honeymoon destination has been the most difficult for us. My mom has been a huge help financially, but with that comes her wanting to control a lot of the factors. It also feels like it has dominated the majority of our conversations since the holidays.
How anybody goes through the stress of getting married multiple times is beyond me.
Ugh, that’s annoying. I’m way to type A to have anyone else trying to give their input except the two of us. 6 weeks out tho, how much do you still have to do or are you pretty much squared away? I’m hoping that there is a point where it levels off, bc like you, I feel like it’s all we talk about.
And we’re not even doing this until December, which you would think is plenty of time- yet a few places I’ve emailed have said the date we wanted is already booked! 10 months away and our options are already being limited for us!!
Oo. I like that you had water tho. I wanted a water view, but I love the “aesthetic” of this place that I’m compromising on the water view. And no furniture actually comes with the venue (another tick in the con column) and I found a place that hires out white plastic chairs that look pretty much like those in that photo for $2/pc. So it’s a possiblilty. Bc I’m a bride on a budget guys. I’m just tryna look as fancy as I can for as little money as possible. 😂😂
Ha - we were the same, hence why we got married in Michigan (where my wife is from) and not Maryland. I think our wedding cost all-in about $12K...if it was in Maryland I don't think we could have found a place for half of that. And $12K seemed insanely expensive to me. But it had the water and a covered bridge which my wife is always still reminiscing about.
Best of luck. 6 weeks away from my day, sooooo looking forward to getting it behind us and being on the honeymoon.
My fiance was pretty set on getting married in our hometown, which made picking the venue pretty cut and dry. The guest-list, time of the wedding, and deciding honeymoon destination has been the most difficult for us. My mom has been a huge help financially, but with that comes her wanting to control a lot of the factors. It also feels like it has dominated the majority of our conversations since the holidays.
How anybody goes through the stress of getting married multiple times is beyond me.
Ugh, that’s annoying. I’m way to type A to have anyone else trying to give their input except the two of us. 6 weeks out tho, how much do you still have to do or are you pretty much squared away? I’m hoping that there is a point where it levels off, bc like you, I feel like it’s all we talk about.
And we’re not even doing this until December, which you would think is plenty of time- yet a few places I’ve emailed have said the date we wanted is already booked! 10 months away and our options are already being limited for us!!
We're doing a household/bridal shower combo this Saturday, the last of our invitations are getting put in the mail today. I think after this weekend comes and goes, it will level off for about a month...and then the last two weeks leading into the day I'm sure will have unforeseen issues.
The guest-list has been tough, especially with mom. It feels like it's dominated by her church and work people. On the flip side though, there's no way we could have put in the leg work she has or afford what we are doing without her. We made the move to Asheville about a year ago, which has took some time to settle into. With both of us working full-time, 3.5 hours away from our home-town/wedding location, and the fact we are also looking into buying a house in early 2019 made all this impossible without her.
Knowing what we all know now, I think we would have at least strongly considered having the wedding in NC or at the beach and kept a small guest-list.
Oo. I like that you had water tho. I wanted a water view, but I love the “aesthetic” of this place that I’m compromising on the water view. And no furniture actually comes with the venue (another tick in the con column) and I found a place that hires out white plastic chairs that look pretty much like those in that photo for $2/pc. So it’s a possiblilty. Bc I’m a bride on a budget guys. I’m just tryna look as fancy as I can for as little money as possible. 😂😂
Ha - we were the same, hence why we got married in Michigan (where my wife is from) and not Maryland. I think our wedding cost all-in about $12K...if it was in Maryland I don't think we could have found a place for half of that. And $12K seemed insanely expensive to me. But it had the water and a covered bridge which my wife is always still reminiscing about.
That’s because $12k *is* a lot! (And that’s basically our budget, give or take with USD to AUD exchange rates). And it’s not going very far in Sydney. One place had a $20k minimum spend for a summer Saturday wedding! I read the average cost of a wedding in Sydney is $36k. AVERAGE! That’s insane to me. I can’t belive how much we’re talking about spending on basically a 6 hour ordeal, and yet we’re looking to spend less than half of the average!!
thepeppers- what’s your guest list at now? We’re trying to keep it under 50, and even that feels bigger than what I was originally expecting. (But that also depends on if a lot of people actually end up coming overseas for it)
Ha - we were the same, hence why we got married in Michigan (where my wife is from) and not Maryland. I think our wedding cost all-in about $12K...if it was in Maryland I don't think we could have found a place for half of that. And $12K seemed insanely expensive to me. But it had the water and a covered bridge which my wife is always still reminiscing about.
That’s because $12k *is* a lot! (And that’s basically our budget, give or take with USD to AUD exchange rates). And it’s not going very far in Sydney. One place had a $20k minimum spend for a summer Saturday wedding! I read the average cost of a wedding in Sydney is $36k. AVERAGE! That’s insane to me. I can’t belive how much we’re talking about spending on basically a 6 hour ordeal, and yet we’re looking to spend less than half of the average!!
Seriously! I think in Maryland it's around the same. We looked at one place in Michigan that had a $12K minimum FOOD cost. I was just like...for $12K in food, I could eat for...3 years.
Ha - we were the same, hence why we got married in Michigan (where my wife is from) and not Maryland. I think our wedding cost all-in about $12K...if it was in Maryland I don't think we could have found a place for half of that. And $12K seemed insanely expensive to me. But it had the water and a covered bridge which my wife is always still reminiscing about.
That’s because $12k *is* a lot! (And that’s basically our budget, give or take with USD to AUD exchange rates). And it’s not going very far in Sydney. One place had a $20k minimum spend for a summer Saturday wedding! I read the average cost of a wedding in Sydney is $36k. AVERAGE! That’s insane to me. I can’t belive how much we’re talking about spending on basically a 6 hour ordeal, and yet we’re looking to spend less than half of the average!!
thepeppers- what’s your guest list at now? We’re trying to keep it under 50, and even that feels bigger than what I was originally expecting. (But that also depends on if a lot of people actually end up coming overseas for it)
We invited roughly 185 people in total. Will see what the RSVP's numbers look like in two or three weeks, but mom and Kelly are guessing at this point around 130 in attendance.
That’s because $12k *is* a lot! (And that’s basically our budget, give or take with USD to AUD exchange rates). And it’s not going very far in Sydney. One place had a $20k minimum spend for a summer Saturday wedding! I read the average cost of a wedding in Sydney is $36k. AVERAGE! That’s insane to me. I can’t belive how much we’re talking about spending on basically a 6 hour ordeal, and yet we’re looking to spend less than half of the average!!
thepeppers- what’s your guest list at now? We’re trying to keep it under 50, and even that feels bigger than what I was originally expecting. (But that also depends on if a lot of people actually end up coming overseas for it)
We invited roughly 185 people in total. Will see what the RSVP's numbers look like in two or three weeks, but mom and Kelly are guessing at this point around 130 in attendance.
I don’t even think I know 130 people I like enough to invite, let alone pay $150+ for them to eat and drink for free all night!
Do you guys have a dry season, where it barely rains at all for like three months?
You funny. You got jokes. Sydney rains on something like 140-odd days per year (more than London!) so we're gambling with about a 40% chance on any given day. .
I know in Florida it's fairly dry during winter time and rains a ton during the summer. You're obv not in Florida, but I have no idea what you got for climate down there.
Why do so many bands open shows with a new song? I understand you need to play the new stuff, but why do they insist on putting a new song in one of the most important parts of the setlist?
Several years ago I saw Depeche Mode for the first time on their Sounds of the Universe tour. I'd been a Depeche Mode fan for years, was primed and ready to explode when they took the stage, and they open with "In Chains", the very slow and underwhelming opening track off Sounds of the Universe. Why do bands want to suck the energy out of the venue? Why not open with "Never Let Me Down Again" or "I Feel You" to take advantage of that pent up energy and just completely destroy the crowd, then play some new stuff to give everyone a breather?
It takes time for an established band's new stuff to be accepted, if it is ever accepted at all. I think it's foolish to open with a track that's only been a part of people's lives for a few months, tops. By all means play the new stuff, but don't waste a moment like the first song of the show on it.
I get what you're saying but I don't mind it. Seems like even after a lengthy sound check the first song is the most vulnerable to needing serious adjustment from the sound booth. So don't play a favorite while the sound could be off. You don't want to be unable to hear the vocals because one of the instruments is potted too high. Consider the first song foreplay. Although in your Depeche Mode example it would just be a sad handjob.
From a sound engineer it's this; and the ability to play a fresh song that doesn't have mileage is a good way for artists to feel out a crowd. And get your chops and get your mind-physical coordination up to full par. You don't just touch your instrument and are back at 100%
We invited roughly 185 people in total. Will see what the RSVP's numbers look like in two or three weeks, but mom and Kelly are guessing at this point around 130 in attendance.
I don’t even think I know 130 people I like enough to invite, let alone pay $150+ for them to eat and drink for free all night!
1) Nor do Kelly and I. Good chunk of our guest-list is people close to our parents. Have to keep in mind, we both grew up within 20 minutes of the chapel, and the majority of our friends and family are still located in that area.
2) We're not having booze at the wedding/reception. Driving over an hour and half after we leave the reception to an airport hotel, flying out at 7 in the morning next day. If we did have alcohol, it would been coming out of our pocket and would have made a lot of family ticked off. Once we accounted for the fact that we wouldn't even get to enjoy the booze if we did go that route, we just didn't think it was worth it.
After our engagement, we came up with three main points we wanted to happen after all this was said and done - have the ceremony in our hometown, go big on the honeymoon, come out of this as much unscathed financially as possible so we could buy a house a few months afterwards. For the most part, those three points have came together for us.
I get what you're saying but I don't mind it. Seems like even after a lengthy sound check the first song is the most vulnerable to needing serious adjustment from the sound booth. So don't play a favorite while the sound could be off. You don't want to be unable to hear the vocals because one of the instruments is potted too high. Consider the first song foreplay. Although in your Depeche Mode example it would just be a sad handjob.
From a sound engineer it's this; and the ability to play a fresh song that doesn't have mileage is a good way for artists to feel out a crowd. And get your chops and get your mind-physical coordination up to full par. You don't just touch your instrument and are back at 100%
thanks both of you for your responses.
as in all things live music related, my perceptions are shaped by Phish, since I've seen them a bunch and consider them to be the best live act in the history of popular music. Of course they change up their setlists every night, and in fact don't even have pre-written setlists anymore, they just play whatever Trey wants to play in that moment, which I've accepted most acts don't do because it is difficult. Not every band has the chops to have 300 songs at their fingertips. This isn't a knock on other bands. Phish is weird.
But, despite the good points you both make, I still think more bands should open with a song more people know. Opening with a new song seems like the product of a bygone era, when the live show was a vehicle to sell albums. But albums aren't the product anymore, the live show is the product, so I think bands should be thinking harder about how to improve that product. Especially since the price of that product is so high.
From a sound engineer it's this; and the ability to play a fresh song that doesn't have mileage is a good way for artists to feel out a crowd. And get your chops and get your mind-physical coordination up to full par. You don't just touch your instrument and are back at 100%
thanks both of you for your responses.
as in all things live music related, my perceptions are shaped by Phish, since I've seen them a bunch and consider them to be the best live act in the history of popular music. Of course they change up their setlists every night, and in fact don't even have pre-written setlists anymore, they just play whatever Trey wants to play in that moment, which I've accepted most acts don't do because it is difficult. Not every band has the chops to have 300 songs at their fingertips. This isn't a knock on other bands. Phish is weird.
But, despite the good points you both make, I still think more bands should open with a song more people know. Opening with a new song seems like the product of a bygone era, when the live show was a vehicle to sell albums. But albums aren't the product anymore, the live show is the product, so I think bands should be thinking harder about how to improve that product. Especially since the price of that product is so high.
could you imagine being Trey's assistant and fielding all those calls in real-time?
as in all things live music related, my perceptions are shaped by Phish, since I've seen them a bunch and consider them to be the best live act in the history of popular music. Of course they change up their setlists every night, and in fact don't even have pre-written setlists anymore, they just play whatever Trey wants to play in that moment, which I've accepted most acts don't do because it is difficult. Not every band has the chops to have 300 songs at their fingertips. This isn't a knock on other bands. Phish is weird.
But, despite the good points you both make, I still think more bands should open with a song more people know. Opening with a new song seems like the product of a bygone era, when the live show was a vehicle to sell albums. But albums aren't the product anymore, the live show is the product, so I think bands should be thinking harder about how to improve that product. Especially since the price of that product is so high.
could you imagine being Trey's assistant and fielding all those calls in real-time?
I had a really graphic sex dream last night, and it did not involve my wife, and I DID NOT tell her.
Was it someone that you know or a celebrity? If it someone you know, is it someone that is close to the family, that now you will feel awkward around or just a rando that you never have to see again?
I had a really graphic sex dream last night, and it did not involve my wife, and I DID NOT tell her.
Was it someone that you know or a celebrity? If it someone you know, is it someone that is close to the family, that now you will feel awkward around or just a rando that you never have to see again?
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I had a really graphic sex dream last night, and it did not involve my wife, and I DID NOT tell her.
Was it someone that you know or a celebrity? If it someone you know, is it someone that is close to the family, that now you will feel awkward around or just a rando that you never have to see again?
Someone I know from high school that was totally random (hence, being put in this thread). Super random. I don't have words for how random, I haven't seen this gal in 20 years (and never in this, ahem, way).
I had a really graphic sex dream last night, and it did not involve my wife, and I DID NOT tell her.
Often, when we have sex dreams with people that don't make any sense (not your significant other, not someone that you have a present attraction toward) your subconscious could be trying to telling you that incorporating some aspects of this person's personality into your own could be beneficial in life. Think of adjectives that could describe the person that you had sex with in your dream and see if anything seems to be something that you are lacking in life or could help you change up your life in a positive way. You may have some desires to change up some things in your waking life that you aren't paying attention to. :-)
I had a really graphic sex dream last night, and it did not involve my wife, and I DID NOT tell her.
Often, when we have sex dreams with people that don't make any sense (not your significant other, not someone that you have a present attraction toward) your subconscious could be trying to telling you that incorporating some aspects of this person's personality into your own could be beneficial in life. Think of adjectives that could describe the person that you had sex with in your dream and see if anything seems to be something that you are lacking in life or could help you change up your life in a positive way. You may have some desires to change up some things in your waking life that you aren't paying attention to. :-)