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What songs should I be listening to by these rappers to get a good idea of what they're about? I don't like rappers that talk about money like it's the most important thing on the planet and all of their fine women. I'm into many of the Rhyesayers artists, J5, and other undergroup acts like those.
You can discount Wu Tang as I love them. Also Macklemore because I think he sucks.
Just listen to these albums
Kendrick - Good Kid, Maad City I casually listened to the first few songs of this album on a plan and wasn't impressed. His flow was good, but his content didn't impress me at all. "itches and hos, itches and hos".
Earl Sweatshirt - Earl I've heard the song Chum from Earl and I liked it, I'll give the album a shot.
ASAP - Long.Live.ASAP I heard one of his popular songs, and had the same impression I got when I listened to Kendrick
Bronson - Blue Chips Will do.
Killer Mike - RAP Music I've listened to the title track for this album, and I was pretty impressed.
Its an indie folk-country band vs an indie electric pop/rock band how are they at all similar
How is Phish similar to Widespread Panic?
I mean I could play you songs from each of those bands I named that are not similar but there is a lot of overlap in style, vocals, fanbase and lyrics.
You can call it indie or trendy, either way you're using an overly broad term to lump together a bunch of bands that play a wide range of music. Maybe the most honest name for that category is Bands That You Don't Like.
You still haven't explained "white boy hip hop."
Welcome to my world, though I think that the Lumineers, Wilco, The National, Passion Pit, Grizzly Bear, St Vincent, and of Monsters and Men all play music in a stylistically similar manner. Also by white boy hip hop I mean acts that would play the Vandy Rites of Spring for instance but that I would never hear much of if I went out to a hip hop club here in town. Nas does not fit into that category and Wu Tang is almost the equivalent of classic hip hop these days, but other than that the rest of our rap acts do imo.
You couldn't be more wrong with this assumption. If you went to a hip hop club you would hear most, if not all of bonnaroos hip hop acts this year.
Post by localweather on Feb 20, 2013 15:58:59 GMT -5
Hey you know what's missing in this discussion is WHICH BAND WILL DESTROY BONNAROO"? I mean, that's been a pretty hot topic for the past several years really getting heated up with Metallica but there's always got to be at least one BELB (Bonnaroo Extinction Level Band) on the lineup or else the fun is ruined. I nominate Bjork. Feel free to nominate your own or discuss why or why not Bjork and her fans will ruin Bonnaroo forever.
Hey you know what's missing in this discussion is WHICH BAND WILL DESTROY BONNAROO"? I mean, that's been a pretty hot topic for the past several years really getting heated up with Metallica but there's always got to be at least one BELB (Bonnaroo Extinction Level Band) on the lineup or else the fun is ruined. I nominate Bjork. Feel free to nominate your own or discuss why or why not Bjork and her fans will ruin Bonnaroo forever.
Welcome to my world, though I think that the Lumineers, Wilco, The National, Passion Pit, Grizzly Bear, St Vincent, and of Monsters and Men all play music in a stylistically similar manner.
Again, you could just replace that sentence with, "I am a hypocrite who expects others to treat jam bands with a nuance I will never apply to styles of music I don't like."
Also by white boy hip hop I mean acts that would play the Vandy Rites of Spring for instance but that I would never hear much of if I went out to a hip hop club here in town. Nas does not fit into that category and Wu Tang is almost the equivalent of classic hip hop these days, but other than that the rest of our rap acts do imo.
What would you hear at the hip hop club, then? And have you even heard Kendrick, K.R.I.T. or Killer Mike? None of them are courting the frat boy crowd, and they came up by distinguishing themselves in hip hop circles.
Hey you know what's missing in this discussion is WHICH BAND WILL DESTROY BONNAROO"? I mean, that's been a pretty hot topic for the past several years really getting heated up with Metallica but there's always got to be at least one BELB (Bonnaroo Extinction Level Band) on the lineup or else the fun is ruined. I nominate Bjork. Feel free to nominate your own or discuss why or why not Bjork and her fans will ruin Bonnaroo forever.
There is a whole thread dedicated to this topic
I just noticed that. I'll move my discussion elsewhere. But for the record...it's Bjork.
Welcome to my world, though I think that the Lumineers, Wilco, The National, Passion Pit, Grizzly Bear, St Vincent, and of Monsters and Men all play music in a stylistically similar manner. Also by white boy hip hop I mean acts that would play the Vandy Rites of Spring for instance but that I would never hear much of if I went out to a hip hop club here in town. Nas does not fit into that category and Wu Tang is almost the equivalent of classic hip hop these days, but other than that the rest of our rap acts do imo.
You couldn't be more wrong with this assumption. If you went to a hip hop club you would hear most, if not all of bonnaroos hip hop acts this year.
Its an indie folk-country band vs an indie electric pop/rock band how are they at all similar
How is Phish similar to Widespread Panic?
Long improvised instrumentals, long setlist and song performances, and similar fan bases make Phish and Widespread similar. I never said they were that similar it was you who made the comparison. People don't want Panic because they've had panic so many times, not because its the same sound as Phish who played last year
Also by white boy hip hop I mean acts that would play the Vandy Rites of Spring for instance but that I would never hear much of if I went out to a hip hop club here in town. Nas does not fit into that category and Wu Tang is almost the equivalent of classic hip hop these days, but other than that the rest of our rap acts do imo.
Where do you live our of curiosity? Where are these hip-hop clubs? I hear most of these acts on the radio and at bars/clubs in NE DC all the time.
I know Umphrey's fans who catch two or more regular headlining shows per year and still shell out for festival tickets just to see them in that setting. I'm not saying it's a good investment, and it makes no sense to me, but it happens.
I can confirm this. I have friends who came to 'Roo 2010 and last year just to catch the Umphrey's shows even though they already saw them probably 5+ times already those same years prior. I don't think it's economically logical either but shiz who am I to ruin their good time.
Jam fans are dedicated. I'd do the same thing with SCI, though they don't play more than a handful of shows each year now. I went to roo in 2011 for SCI, WSP, Buffalo sprinfield, and STS9 getting a sunrise set. I didn't really like arcade fire and skipped eminem.
Welcome to my world, though I think that the Lumineers, Wilco, The National, Passion Pit, Grizzly Bear, St Vincent, and of Monsters and Men all play music in a stylistically similar manner.
Again, you could just replace that sentence with, "I am a hypocrite who expects others to treat jam bands with a nuance I will never apply to styles of music I don't like."
No bands can destroy Bonnaroo (especially Bjork, who is a quacking genius and is a perfect fit), only the people that go could ruin it. And no, Wilco does not sound like The National and vice versa.
Welcome to my world, though I think that the Lumineers, Wilco, The National, Passion Pit, Grizzly Bear, St Vincent, and of Monsters and Men all play music in a stylistically similar manner.
Again, you could just replace that sentence with, "I am a hypocrite who expects others to treat jam bands with a nuance I will never apply to styles of music I don't like."
Also by white boy hip hop I mean acts that would play the Vandy Rites of Spring for instance but that I would never hear much of if I went out to a hip hop club here in town. Nas does not fit into that category and Wu Tang is almost the equivalent of classic hip hop these days, but other than that the rest of our rap acts do imo.
What would you hear at the hip hop club, then? And have you even heard Kendrick, K.R.I.T. or Killer Mike? None of them are courting the frat boy crowd, and they came up by distinguishing themselves in hip hop circles.
Lulz, I never expect that on here. I expect people to count Yonder Mountain and Umphreys as both being Jam Bands and just got over it long ago. Sorry if I expect you to do the same thing. Also I do not "hate" any of them on a individual level I do feel that having them all as the 2-3rd line shows a lack of imagination in booking.
As to hip hop those acts, at least where I live are not the kind of things I hear much, though Big K.R.I.T has been showing up recently and I would like to see his set.
Welcome to my world, though I think that the Lumineers, Wilco, The National, Passion Pit, Grizzly Bear, St Vincent, and of Monsters and Men all play music in a stylistically similar manner. Also by white boy hip hop I mean acts that would play the Vandy Rites of Spring for instance but that I would never hear much of if I went out to a hip hop club here in town. Nas does not fit into that category and Wu Tang is almost the equivalent of classic hip hop these days, but other than that the rest of our rap acts do imo.
Holy f*cking shiz, shut up Jess. This is the biggest pile of horse sh*t yet. Your insane grouping of those bands has already been pointed out, so I'll leave that as it lay (seriously, Passion Pit sounds anything like The f*cking National?).
How many hip hop clubs have you frequented in your entire life, Jess? Stop speaking like this all-knowing music diety. You're a random guy in Tennessee who likes certain kinds of music. That's fine, no one would care if that was where it ended. But it never ends there because you feel it necessary to tell people where they're wrong about types of music you clearly have no working knowledge of.
If Tom, Jugs, Zapp and so on had a deep conversation about Jazz, I'd stay the hell out of it except to chime in with stuff like "hey, I just listend to X album you guys mentioned, that was awesome!" I'm not going to go "no, no, you guys know nothing. This is (unintelligible dribble that I'm sparing everyone from reading since, as I previously stated, I don't know what I'm talking about)."
The day you stop acting like the judge, jury and executioner of all music the sooner people will stop responding to your posts with "what the f*ck are you talking about?!?" comments.
Wu Tang is "almost" classic hip-hop. Hi, I'm Earth, have we met? They released their debut TWO DECADES AGO. That is classic. They are classic. They're over 40 years old.
And to clarify, your stance is that "white boy hip-hop" is not hip-hop played in clubs? Do they still segregate clubs in the South? I just saw Mississippi abolished slavery finally, so I figured that was all done with. A$AP, Kendrick, Earl, Action? ALL played in "hip-hop" clubs (what the f*ck is a hip-hop club, btw? Do they have yearbook photos?)
I don't know what hip hop clubs are like many other places in the country, but DC is a pretty big hip hop town and the Bonnaroo hip hop acts are most certainly on the playlists of many of the DJs of those clubs. What's really cool is lately there's been a movement to mix up "genres" and DJs are rotating between dance, classic hip hop, and current hip hop - so you may hear Weeknd, Kendrick Lamar, a Jessie Ware remix, and classic Pharcyde in the same set. There's also a lot of retro nights that even the younger kids are into - De La Soul is Dead nights are popular and of course J Dilla and Tupac tribute nights. It's all good to me.
Jess, are you saying that you want Bonnaroo to book the kind of hip hop that gets play in the club? You want Drizzy and Breezy and Jeezy, Waka and Gucci? Rozay? I'm seriously confused here. Please name some artists that you don't think are "white boy" acts that you hear in the clubs you go to.
Most jam bands tour their butts off and you can basically see them every year if you want and if you live in the southeast you have more of a chance. I know Umphrey's comes to Charlotte 2-3 times a year. I know jam bands have loyal fans, but I doubt there were too many fans that bought a $250 ticket to see Umphrey's. If they did it was a very bad investment
I know Umphrey's fans who catch two or more regular headlining shows per year and still shell out for festival tickets just to see them in that setting. I'm not saying it's a good investment, and it makes no sense to me, but it happens.
I bought tics to STS9 for NYE (and dinner with) knowing that I would probably see them multiple times this year (guess I will see them at least 2x it looks like) And RxMark. I agree somewhat, but it's like I hate Ted Nugent just because of his political and social views. He used to be ok to rock to, but I wish he would go away somewhere far far away. cr****
Again, you could just replace that sentence with, "I am a hypocrite who expects others to treat jam bands with a nuance I will never apply to styles of music I don't like."
QFT
And just how do you treat jam bands? I guess you are just as big a hypocrite huh?
Most jam bands tour their butts off and you can basically see them every year if you want and if you live in the southeast you have more of a chance. I know Umphrey's comes to Charlotte 2-3 times a year. I know jam bands have loyal fans, but I doubt there were too many fans that bought a $250 ticket to see Umphrey's. If they did it was a very bad investment
I know Umphrey's fans who catch two or more regular headlining shows per year and still shell out for festival tickets just to see them in that setting. I'm not saying it's a good investment, and it makes no sense to me, but it happens.
I'm seeing two Jim James tour date shows and then plan on catching his Roo set. May seem silly to some but I do believe that some festival sets (not all, though) bring out something a little more special. Maybe it's the bands having a good time or maybe they just want to win over new fans who aren't as familiar with them...but either way I tend to look forward to the "festival set" of some bands i've already seen live...just to see if they step it up.
Post by Riff Free Or Die on Feb 20, 2013 16:22:12 GMT -5
I couldn't be more happy with the lineup, really tasty. A double dose of Jim James is enough to get me there, not as going to the farm, more like I already came A little pinch of Gov't Mule, Conspirator, and Edward Sharpe to satisfy my hippie tendencies. Then you mix in some Byrne, ZZ top, Wu-Tang, Nas, Billy Idol, and R Kelly for nostalgia's sake. Pretty Lights, Passion Pit, and Four Tet bringing some flavor to bee bop and boogie down to. Wash it down with some sweet southern rock n roll a la Jason Isbell and The Futurebirds. Sprinkle in some Trombone Shorty and Pres Hall for a spicy Nawlin's kick. A nice gulp of the mountain moonshine bluegrass of Sam Bush and Del McCoury will get this West Virginia kid going. Mouth not watering yet? How about a huge appetizer sampler of a ton talented up and comers like The Lumineers, the xx, Portugal. The Man, and Japandroids. I could go on and on with these BAD food puns (sorry bout all those), but I'm stuffed. Well... I did forget the dessert of our sweet and wholesome headliners, quite possibly the best trio of sing-along fun we've had. I can't wait to Kum Ba Yah with all y'all beautiful people! June can't get here soon enough!
"A man's at odds to know his mind cause his mind is aught he has to know it with. He can know his heart, but he dont want to. Rightly so. Best not to look in there." -Cormac McCarthy
I'm seeing two Jim James tour date shows and then plan on catching his Roo set. May seem silly to some but I do believe that some festival sets (not all, though) bring out something a little more special. Maybe it's the bands having a good time or maybe they just want to win over new fans who aren't as familiar with them...but either way I tend to look forward to the "festival set" of some bands i've already seen live...just to see if they step it up.
That's different. I'm sure there are a couple dozen other acts you want to see at Roo. The people I'm talking about buy tickets to see Umphrey's at festivals when they have little to no interest in anybody else on the lineup. I went to Hangout with an Umphrey's superfan last year. He saw their set on Friday and stayed in the condo the rest of the weekend.
I know Umphrey's fans who catch two or more regular headlining shows per year and still shell out for festival tickets just to see them in that setting. I'm not saying it's a good investment, and it makes no sense to me, but it happens.
I'm seeing two Jim James tour date shows and then plan on catching his Roo set. May seem silly to some but I do believe that some festival sets (not all, though) bring out something a little more special. Maybe it's the bands having a good time or maybe they just want to win over new fans who aren't as familiar with them...but either way I tend to look forward to the "festival set" of some bands i've already seen live...just to see if they step it up.
One year I saw NIN at a festival (Coachella), a large venue (Pepsi Center), a small outdoor venue (Red Rocks), a small (ish) club (Fillmore). All 4 shows were different in their own ways imo ... cr****
I'd bet good money that the local hip hop station in Nashville has played Kendrick, A$AP, and Macklemore all in the last hour or so. Jess, Quit talking out of your ass and just admit you are just ignorant to the music of these "white boy" hip hop acts.
I think I'm just upset that I spent years trying to assimilate into "black boy" hip-hop club scenes when there were already hip-hop clubs devoted entirely to kids like me!
I love the line-up. But serious question, if someone posted a line-up that LOOKED like that (ie: most likely made in Paint) in the fake line-up thread, people would have told them to try harder right?
I love the line-up. But serious question, if someone posted a line-up that LOOKED like that (ie: most likely made in Paint) in the fake line-up thread, people would have told them to try harder right?
Those things are usually picked out because: 1- Bands are on the list that the board has already confirmed won't be there. 2- Horrific photoshop skills 3- Horrific text selection 4- Lack of any out-of-the-box, the-board-had-no-chance-of-finding-out acts.
The Roo art/graphic design department has never blown anyone away with their skills. I guess my point is that since the real Roo lineups never look that great to begin with, "not looking great" isn't an automatic call-out for being fake.