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Post by WhyTheLongFace on Sept 12, 2019 11:33:12 GMT -5
Yeah I’m a huge fan but I’ve heard Rihanna’s not good live but that doesn’t stop me from wanting her at Coachella. Every headliner doesn’t have to be mind blowing once in a lifetime face melting spectacle. Sometimes you want to just dance with your friends for 2 hours to end a Coachella Saturday
Even if Adele does return to music there is no guarantee she will play. She doesn’t do festivals.
I know she headlined Glastonbury but that was a show she’d wanted to do since she was a child as she attended Glastonbury when she was young. Glastonbury is an exception not a standard.
She would be a fantastic booking but there needs to be more indicating that it’s happening for it to be considered. If Adele was lined up for Coachella i’d imagine that would leak to the press at some point. It won’t come out of nowhere.
Because everything is supposed to leak to the press? Nobody thought Roger Waters was playing in 08, and it shocked everyone. Theyre still capable of having true secret meetings to keep things a surprise. Unless another Hits Daily Double or Billboard story that has the headliners doesnt come to light, theyre doing their job. And the uk press were always going to find out she was playing Glasto. Theyre not going to go fishing for u.s related stuff.
Pretty sure Dre & Snoop in 2012 were the last headliners that didn’t leak.
Yeah I’m a huge fan but I’ve heard Rihanna’s not good live but that doesn’t stop me from wanting her at Coachella. Every headliner doesn’t have to be mind blowing once in a lifetime face melting spectacle. Sometimes you want to just dance with your friends for 2 hours to end a Coachella Saturday
The thing is she’s not *bad* live, she’s just not amazing at it. Solid B+. Perfectly good for a fun festival set.
Yeah I’m a huge fan but I’ve heard Rihanna’s not good live but that doesn’t stop me from wanting her at Coachella. Every headliner doesn’t have to be mind blowing once in a lifetime face melting spectacle. Sometimes you want to just dance with your friends for 2 hours to end a Coachella Saturday
The thing is she’s not *bad* live, she’s just not amazing at it. Solid B+. Perfectly good for a fun festival set.
Well maybe bad isn’t the word but I’ve heard underwhelming from people who aren’t super fans. But you get to hear the 28-30 songs you know and sing along and because there’s lip syncing her voice never is terrible so yeah it can’t be “bad”. It’ll just be really really fun.
Headliner leaks by year (TME or someone please correct if wrong):
2013: Did not leak. The year of the Stones holdout. People thought Phoenix were definitely playing but could sub or headline. The Stone Roses were possible, but people didn't know if they would headline. RHCP and Blur were suprises. 2014: Arcade Fire locked in via tour date release in Oct/Nov. Outkast leaked via IG posts by people associated with Outkast in November. Muse leaked via an interview saying they were playing a "festival in California in April" in December. 2015: Leaked via Hits Daily Double in December 2016: Leaked via Inforoo (Launchpad) in September 2017: Leaked via message boards in October (remember it was same weekend as Desert Trip); confirmed by CoS and others in November 2018: Beyonce known year-round. The Weeknd and Eminem leaked via CoS in December. The year of the Chainsmokers rumor! 2019: Assumed to be JT/Kanye/Gambino from October-December. Ariana and Tame last minute replacements known roughly day of/day before.
Because everything is supposed to leak to the press? Nobody thought Roger Waters was playing in 08, and it shocked everyone. Theyre still capable of having true secret meetings to keep things a surprise. Unless another Hits Daily Double or Billboard story that has the headliners doesnt come to light, theyre doing their job. And the uk press were always going to find out she was playing Glasto. Theyre not going to go fishing for u.s related stuff.
Pretty sure Dre & Snoop in 2012 were the last headliners that didn’t leak.
Just giving an example. Sabbath wasnt a rumor either that was a public story before the line up.
Even if Adele does return to music there is no guarantee she will play. She doesn’t do festivals.
I know she headlined Glastonbury but that was a show she’d wanted to do since she was a child as she attended Glastonbury when she was young. Glastonbury is an exception not a standard.
She would be a fantastic booking but there needs to be more indicating that it’s happening for it to be considered. If Adele was lined up for Coachella i’d imagine that would leak to the press at some point. It won’t come out of nowhere.
Because everything is supposed to leak to the press? Nobody thought Roger Waters was playing in 08, and it shocked everyone. Theyre still capable of having true secret meetings to keep things a surprise. Unless another Hits Daily Double or Billboard story that has the headliners doesnt come to light, theyre doing their job. And the uk press were always going to find out she was playing Glasto. Theyre not going to go fishing for u.s related stuff.
Strongly disagree Adele doing anything is front page news. She’s the best selling act of the 2010s and the biggest artist of the decade. Since she likes to be secretive there is a lot of mystery around what she does but anything she plans does leak to the press. I don’t think Adele has been able to keep anything totally secret because journalists jump to make a story about her at any opportunity. Adele may flat out deny things but it doesn’t stop them happening. I remember in 2015/2016 dates for a supposed tour started leaking and she denied them right up until the announcement.
Long story short - if Adele is in the mix we will hear something about it. Adele headlIning the biggest festival in America is massive news.
Because everything is supposed to leak to the press? Nobody thought Roger Waters was playing in 08, and it shocked everyone. Theyre still capable of having true secret meetings to keep things a surprise. Unless another Hits Daily Double or Billboard story that has the headliners doesnt come to light, theyre doing their job. And the uk press were always going to find out she was playing Glasto. Theyre not going to go fishing for u.s related stuff.
Strongly disagree Adele doing anything is front page news. She’s the best selling act of the 2010s and the biggest artist of the decade. Since she likes to be secretive there is a lot of mystery around what she does but anything she plans does leak to the press. I don’t think Adele has been able to keep anything totally secret because journalists jump to make a story about her at any opportunity. Adele may flat out deny things but it doesn’t stop them happening. I remember in 2015/2016 dates for a supposed tour started leaking and she denied them right up until the announcement.
Long story short - if Adele is in the mix we will hear something about it. Adele headlIning the biggest festival in America is massive news.
Besides that Adele is not the best selling act of the 2010s and (I guess, arguably) not the biggest artist of the decade, especially in the US - there's absolutely no reason to believe we HAVE to hear something about her being a headliner.
Leaks happen, they're not a guarantee regardless of whom the act is. End of story.
Headliner leaks by year (TME or someone please correct if wrong):
2013: Did not leak. The year of the Stones holdout. People thought Phoenix were definitely playing but could sub or headline. The Stone Roses were possible, but people didn't know if they would headline. RHCP and Blur were suprises. 2014: Arcade Fire locked in via tour date release in Oct/Nov. Outkast leaked via IG posts by people associated with Outkast in November. Muse leaked via an interview saying they were playing a "festival in California in April" in December. 2015: Leaked via Hits Daily Double in December 2016: Leaked via Inforoo (Launchpad) in September 2017: Leaked via message boards in October (remember it was same weekend as Desert Trip); confirmed by CoS and others in November 2018: Beyonce known year-round. The Weeknd and Eminem leaked via CoS in December. The year of the Chainsmokers rumor! 2019: Assumed to be JT/Kanye/Gambino from October-December. Ariana and Tame last minute replacements known roughly day of/day before.
2013 did leak to the private Coachella group. RHCP were even known about during Coachella 2012, they were likely kept as a backup for if/when The Rolling Stones didn’t work out.
Also, 21 & 25 are the two best selling albums of this decade (21 was #1 in both 2011 AND 2012) so yes, Adele is undeniably the best selling artist of the 2010s.
We haven't had a reunion or comeback since GNR/LCD Soundsystem? REM-Rihanna-Kanye would be pretty huge
I actually can’t really think of a reasonable reunion Coachella could get. Don’t think REM will happen soon, Oasis would do UK first, probably never get a Zeppelin, Talking Heads, Smiths or White Stripes reunion, etc
We haven't had a reunion or comeback since GNR/LCD Soundsystem? REM-Rihanna-Kanye would be pretty huge
I actually can’t really think of a reasonable reunion Coachella could get. Don’t think REM will happen soon, Oasis would do UK first, probably never get a Zeppelin, Talking Heads, Smiths or White Stripes reunion, etc
Headliner-wise, yeah, but I think there are some second line reunions we might see. I continue to hold out hope for a Rilo Kiley reunion eventually, which still feels inevitable to me. Black Crowes, Clipse, Fugazi, The Kinks. Dunno how likely any of those are, gotta be more possible than Zep/Heads/Smiths at least.
I actually can’t really think of a reasonable reunion Coachella could get. Don’t think REM will happen soon, Oasis would do UK first, probably never get a Zeppelin, Talking Heads, Smiths or White Stripes reunion, etc
Headliner-wise, yeah, but I think there are some second line reunions we might see. I continue to hold out hope for a Rilo Kiley reunion eventually, which still feels inevitable to me. Black Crowes, Clipse, Fugazi, The Kinks. Dunno how likely any of those are, gotta be more possible than Zep/Heads/Smiths at least.
Maybe Daft Punk? Could see Rage reuniting but not at Coachella.
Headliner leaks by year (TME or someone please correct if wrong):
2013: Did not leak. The year of the Stones holdout. People thought Phoenix were definitely playing but could sub or headline. The Stone Roses were possible, but people didn't know if they would headline. RHCP and Blur were suprises. 2014: Arcade Fire locked in via tour date release in Oct/Nov. Outkast leaked via IG posts by people associated with Outkast in November. Muse leaked via an interview saying they were playing a "festival in California in April" in December. 2015: Leaked via Hits Daily Double in December 2016: Leaked via Inforoo (Launchpad) in September 2017: Leaked via message boards in October (remember it was same weekend as Desert Trip); confirmed by CoS and others in November 2018: Beyonce known year-round. The Weeknd and Eminem leaked via CoS in December. The year of the Chainsmokers rumor! 2019: Assumed to be JT/Kanye/Gambino from October-December. Ariana and Tame last minute replacements known roughly day of/day before.
2013 did leak to the private Coachella group. RHCP were even known about during Coachella 2012, they were likely kept as a backup for if/when The Rolling Stones didn’t work out.
Also, 21 & 25 are the two best selling albums of this decade (21 was #1 in both 2011 AND 2012) so yes, Adele is undeniably the best selling artist of the 2010s.
shes actually #2.
*that data is from 2017, she's most certainly further behind taylor at this point.
2013 did leak to the private Coachella group. RHCP were even known about during Coachella 2012, they were likely kept as a backup for if/when The Rolling Stones didn’t work out.
Also, 21 & 25 are the two best selling albums of this decade (21 was #1 in both 2011 AND 2012) so yes, Adele is undeniably the best selling artist of the 2010s.
shes actually #2.
*that data is from 2017, she's most certainly further behind taylor at this point.
This doesn't event account for single sales. Taylor has about 5 songs that each sold more than any Adele single in the US.
Also was bored and ran the UK numbers for the hell of it, Sheeran looks solidly ahead of Adele over there.
Post by TickleMeElmo on Sept 12, 2019 19:10:23 GMT -5
Looking at some numbers here, album-wise it’s Taylor & Adele. Looks like Taylor may be ahead of Adele but if Adele drops something in November that could change. However, looks like Rihanna had the best singles and airplay while Drake ruled streaming.
Billboard will release an Artist of the Decade list based off commercial success so one of those four should be #1.
Coachella got the At The Drive In reunion so they'll probably get The Mars Volta whenever that happens, which might be this year.
Don't think Coachella 2012 is too comparable to Coachella 2020. Just being realistic. They got Pavement in 2010, and that's going to Primavera in 2020. Similarly, I think Mars Volta either goes to Primavera or Riot Fest.
R.E.M. will probably just do a stadium/arena tour. I can see them bidding up for Oasis and getting them though when that happens in a couple years.
Since when was Rihanna like Lauryn Hill or Erykah Badu? Does she actually have a history of showing up late? I dont think so, or else that would be brought up.
Rihanna's last arena show here had her hit the stage after 10pm and she did the same thing in other cities.
That said I can't think of any act that was intentionally late to a Coachella set. Couple technical/traffic instances.