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Not all the members but McCartney is certainly overrated.
Hey Jess, I hate you.
I mean he wrote great smooth pop, and some decent hooks but he never had the musical maturity and love of complexity that made Lennon and Harrison so awe inspiring.
Is McCartney the greatest ever? No. Did he have a lot of stinkers? Yeah. But I still like him, and he's entertaining live. The two shows I saw are top 10 all time for me.
I mean he wrote great smooth pop, and some decent hooks but he never had the musical maturity and love of complexity that made Lennon and Harrison so awe inspiring.
Is McCartney the greatest ever? No. Did he have a lot of stinkers? Yeah. But I still like him, and he's entertaining live. The two shows I saw are top 10 all time for me.
I agree, and actually as a live act he is phenomenal the man is a hell of a entertainer. His musical chops though at least to me are pretty overrated.
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By overrated I do not mean he is not a good musician, but that he gets a lot more credit than he is due.
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but that he gets a lot more credit than he is due.
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If you want to say Harrison didn't get enough credit, that's fine. But Macca gets too much credit? The guy wasn't perfect, but without him the Beatles never exist. He's half of the most successful song-writing tandem ever. And Macca is my 3rd favorite Beatle, for the record, so I'm not just a fanboy getting salty because my favorite Beatle was called overrated by a guy on an internet forum.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
You are reading to much into this flanzie, his musical ability gets more credit than it is worth in my opinion. The Beatles had a great sound and he was part of it, but he was the poppy part, and there were plenty of pop bands even though the Beatles were pioneers. To me what made the Beatles great was that fusion of the popular sound with the more plain spoken musical genius of Lennon and the experimental side of George.
If nothing else look at the solo catalogs from a musical not financial success point of view and you can see the same thing. He never really pushed himself into new directions or experimented the way Lennon or Harrison did. So when I say he got more credit than he was due I meant it strictly in relation to those two.
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I actually prefer to drink on weeknights over weekends. I am not sure where my wires got crossed, but I spend more Friday nights sober than weeknights (when I am not working at Cheesecake, that is).
I lvoe you Dave. Smiting is the devil. Mine keeps going up and down between 69 and 70. At least one of you are trying hard to keep me at 69 It's fun for now. Eventually, I will need to progress, though.
i SOOOOOO should've been in here last night.. oh my lanta.. its a big blurr.
I was pretty drunk last night too. When I am drunk, I actually hate to text/type/read. The opposite of most folks. I went in chat and had to use the sound because I just couldn't make my fingers type.
Save it for chat this weekend, Jess! We gotta make sure everyone has time to compose their arguments and the anger has time to build.
Saturday is Bastille Day (France's independence day). I will be celebrating with a few fellow francophiles... be prepared for Bonzai at least two and half bottles deep on Saturday ;D ;D ;D
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
Band on the Run and Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey are great solo McCartney songs. I think George got his respect posthumously with the documentary Living in a Material World. Lennon has always had the respect.
You are reading to much into this flanzie, his musical ability gets more credit than it is worth in my opinion. The Beatles had a great sound and he was part of it, but he was the poppy part, and there were plenty of pop bands even though the Beatles were pioneers. To me what made the Beatles great was that fusion of the popular sound with the more plain spoken musical genius of Lennon and the experimental side of George.
If nothing else look at the solo catalogs from a musical not financial success point of view and you can see the same thing. He never really pushed himself into new directions or experimented the way Lennon or Harrison did. So when I say he got more credit than he was due I meant it strictly in relation to those two.
While I don't agree with this, I do actually find this to be an understandable critique.
Can you not refer to me as "flanzie" whenever we disagree, like you're addressing some wide-eyed little kid? Thanks.
Can you stop insulting me calling me a troll and otherwise acting like a wide eyed little kid when we disagree? If so I can certainly do my best to stop as well.
Pardon? What about my comments scream "wide-eyed little kid"? And don't act like I'm the only one who has ever used "JBT" before, playing the victim doesn't suit you very well.
You started this in the Frank Ocean thread and I realize it's the offseason, but if I'm going to be this offseason's lucky winner of the JBT sweepstakes, you may want to look elsewhere. I had to be the bigger man in that thread, do I have to do it again? Pretty sad that such a "little kid" can be the bigger man, but if that's what it takes so be it.
Can you stop insulting me calling me a troll and otherwise acting like a wide eyed little kid when we disagree? If so I can certainly do my best to stop as well.
Pardon? What about my comments scream "wide-eyed little kid"? And don't act like I'm the only one who has ever used "JBT" before, playing the victim doesn't suit you very well.
You started this in the Frank Ocean thread and I realize it's the offseason, but if I'm going to be this offseason's lucky winner of the JBT sweepstakes, you may want to look elsewhere. I had to be the bigger man in that thread, do I have to do it again? Pretty sad that such a "little kid" can be the bigger man, but if that's what it takes so be it.
Edit: Too slow on the edit, my man.
Eh I will still stand by it flanz, I mean you are the one who got bent out of shape by a joke and had to go starting crap. Then you are also the person who feels the need to throw around random insults and pictures in a discussion. So far there has been little you have done to show you are a bigger man.......
Where, exactly, have I insulted you? Are you counting "JBT" as an insult? Because I'm only about the 500th person to use that line.
And let me clarify something. I do not get "bent out of shape" by anything you post on here. I find exaggerating my points with dumb pictures or gifs makes my posts funnier (and if that wasn't the case I'm sure someone would've stopped me oh, about a year ago, when I started doing it). And I abandoned the argument yesterday when you were still clearly baiting me, hence the "bigger man" comment. That's what being the bigger person entails in the Earth realm: identifying baiting comments, and ignoring them.
Anyone who has had this convo with me (Rosko, I think Airline, maybe some other people) know that the Beatles are my favorite band of all time. They also know that when people poke the bear with me, I generally react with fake anger to be funny. The fact that I've been posting here for 2 years now and you still seem to miss that very obvious trait is kind of confusing, to be honest.
If, for example, NoD had said the same comment you did, I'd have said I hate him instead. It was obviously a joke, but since the Czar of Hilarity Mr. Jess deemed it an insult, he huffed and puffed and blew a whole lot of hot air for no reason.
Like I said, you won't have fun trying to pick fights with me, I fight with people for a living. I happen to enjoy inforoo so it would be greatly appreciated if you didn't turn it into an online version of my workplace.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
Only a matter of time until I master women & children, so watch out Abra.
We'll defend ourselves my pulling at your chest hair.
When I was a baby, my parents brought me to the summit of Mount Olympus, where Zeus himself had Artemis weave together strands of silver from her fustanella. Then Apollo took the weaved silver and rode his sun chariot so long that three days time passed before he finally finished his ride. The silver burned into a shimmering golden brown with silver sparkling through. When Apollo completed pulling the sun across the sky, he returned to the Summit and placed the sunfired silver upon my chest, where it rooted itself. And thus, my chest hair was created.