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Post by koyaanisqatsi on Feb 7, 2008 11:33:19 GMT -5
I think McCain doing so well will mobilize the Obama vote. Anyone who is on the fence still and hasn't voted oughta be able to recognize the danger to the dems of a Clinton McCain showdown. (i dunno tho, that gives fencesitters a bit much credit methinks).
Obama is only NON establishment when compared with Clinton.
Let's face it. She's poopin' her already poopy drawers right now. 5 mil out of your own account AIN'T the move you wanna be makin' AFTER super tuesday !
Obama outraised her 2:1 in January, and I think he's pulled in a million a day since Super Tuesday. I've heard she* might loan her campaign as much as $20mil, and I've read that her staff is foregoing their pay for the time being. Not a good sign.
*Apparently, it's all "her" money so they can try to dodge questions about Bill's current worth. Hmm...
I don't think it's going to be decided on the Democratic side until Pennsylvania April 22nd at the earliest.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to change my voting status from independent to democrat, I guess. Just so I can vote in what's becoming an increasingly important primary.
As far as veep talk goes, here's what I've heard about various candidates thus far:
Clinton & _______ Wesley Clark Ed Rendell, PA governor
Obama & _______ Joe Biden Janet Napolitano, AZ governor
I have of course heard talk of Edwards or Richardson with either of them.
As far as McCain goes - all I know is that he was once asked in an interview who he would have chosen as his running mate had he won the nomination in 2000. His answer? Colin Powell.
I don't want to be Clinton's VP. Why would anyone want that job?
Bill Clinton received the most and most frequent threats against his life out of any President. Hillary Clinton has already had a handful of hostage/violent situations at her campaign offices as a candidate. There is still plenty of anti-Clinton sentiment to go around - she's had a full 50% of people say they'd never vote for her in some polls.
To phrase it delicately, I think Hillary's running mate might have a good chance of receiving an unexpected promotion.
I don't get it though man.. why do people want someone who is so hated to be president? How can we expect real change and non-partisan compromise with Hillary at the helm...
You can't. I think Hillary pretty much epitomizes what I don't like about American politics.
If it comes down to Hillary vs. McCain, I have to admit I'd need more information than just what comes from the head-to-head contest. I'd have to consider running mates, Cabinet positions, Supreme Court matters... If McCain could somehow pre-assemble an acceptable administration before the general, there's a chance I might just go his way over Hillary. John Kerry was one thing, but I've got greater apprehension thinking about voting for Hillary...
I don't agree with John McCain on a lot of topics, but as a person I think hes a good guy. I could have a beer with John McCain. I agree with Hillary on many issues, but I wouldn't want to hear her speak, let alone be in the same room with her...
Post by koyaanisqatsi on Feb 7, 2008 13:45:59 GMT -5
kdogg said:
You can't. I think Hillary pretty much epitomizes what I don't like about American politics.
I'd have to consider running mates, Cabinet positions, Supreme Court matters...
John Kerry was one thing, but I've got greater apprehension thinking about voting for Hillary...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^truedat^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^to say the least !
I might might be swayed to vote democratic once again if Obama picked his running mate/ cabinet wisely. Especially in the vacuum of a third party threat.
And including Richardson would be a wise choice imho....
I could get behind a Clinton-Richardson ticket. If only to eventually see Richardson get the job. I love him more than I hate her.
I would love to see an Obama-Richardson ticket, but my gut tells me a non-Caucasian ticket would have some difficulties... Obama does need help courting that Latino vote.
While we're on the subject - what's up with Richardson's beard? I hadn't seen him anywhere since my return flight from New Hampshire.
As long as I'm talking about my NH trip - I had mentioned the possibility back then about writing a piece about my trip. I regret to say it won't be happening. I had a week and a half between my return and the start of school in which I'd hoped to write it. The guy who runs that site never responded to any of the questions I wanted answered before I started to write. Once my internship in a federal office started, I had some restrictions put on me. One of these concerns writing for publication. I'm not sure if it's completely banned, but if it isn't it would be a pain in the ass. Even getting permission to work with non-partisan GOTV is a pain in my ass.
I think Romney dropping out could hurt McCain a bit as Huckabee will get many of the Romnay votes and could possibly win some more States that McCain would have gotten in a 3 way race. No more splitting the anti-McCain vote.
But it's McCain race now regardless.
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I try and keep up with politics, I consider myself to be aware of what's going on...
Is it sad that the thing that finally got me to commit to Obama was that he got The Dead? I know, I know... there's issues and stuff to be taken into account but c'mon... Phil told me to support him... I trust Phil... I'm also an organ donor.
I try and keep up with politics, I consider myself to be aware of what's going on...
Is it sad that the thing that finally got me to commit to Obama was that he got The Dead? I know, I know... there's issues and stuff to be taken into account but c'mon... Phil told me to support him... I trust Phil... I'm also an organ donor.
it is sad... isn't it? *sigh*
I don't think it's sad. That's what endorsements are all about. When I first started voting, I mostly just did whatever my parents did. They were the endorsements I listened to. And now my mom looks to me (although this year, Oprah helped a lot, too).
You listen to people whose beliefs mirror yours. You trust that Phil had researched the issues more than you and that what he decides will line up with your beliefs. Makes complete sense to me!
Wednesday's NY Times had a brief article about VP speculation in their Super Tuesday wrap-up special section. In a nutshell:
Hillary Sen. Evan Bayh, IN Gen. Wesley Clark Gov. Ted Strickland, OH Gov. Ed Rendell, PA Sen. Bill Nelson, FL
Obama Sen. Claire McCaskill, MO Gov. Janet Napolitano, AZ Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, KS Tom Daschle, former Senate majority leader Sam Nunn, former GA Senator/nuclear expert
Mentioned for both is Sen. Jim Webb of Virginia.
McCain Mike Huckabee Sen. Joe Lieberman Sen. Lindsey Graham Gov. Charlie Crist, FL Gov. Tim Pawlenty, MN NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg Carleton S. Fiorina, former Hewlett-Packard CEO Michael Powell, former FCC chair/son of Colin (coincidence?)
I know he's dropped out since this was published, but Romney's list was hilarious. Rick Santorum, former PA Senator Jim Talent, former MO Senator Meg Whitman, eBay CEO Jeb Bush Gen. David Petraeus
I wouldn't rule out Edwards or Richardson for one or the other, and I've heard Biden's name being tossed around as a potential Obama running mate. I've heard Edwards' name mentioned for AG, but I personally would prefer Eliot Spitzer for that job.