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See - there is more proof that I must not be a closet Dem - I support voter ID
For the record I believe some type of ID should be required but not a mandated type that allows abuse of the system. I know lots of people who have no driver's license and in urban areas many people have no need of them.
TN does it right IMHO. You must have ID. It can be your voter's registration card, Driver's license, credit card, or even a utility bill with your name and address on it. This shows you are very likely who you claim to be and allows easy voter access.
But just because I agree with you (in part at least) doesn't mean you're not still a troublemaker, Meg.
LMAO - I have no problem with requiring a photo ID - just because you don't have a DL does not mean that you should not have some form of photo ID - all states have an official ID card that you can get from th State. Seems to me that in order to cash a check - you have to have photo ID - soooo even if you do not drive, are on welfare, social security, pension - whatever - you should have a photo ID.
Anyway - I also meant to tell yo - I am very much still on the fench as far as this election goes. I am not happy with any of the candidates and am afraid that my vote will be more for keeping someone out of the White House then for voting someone into it.
But I really appreciate all the infor everyone posts here - my mother will have a COW if I vote for Obama - who she says is a racist muslim and nothing I say can convince her otherwise - the media really really has her sucked in and she seems incapable of doing any research on her own - instead - she is staying with the Republican party (mostly I think - just because that is what she was raised and what she has been all her life)
Hey kdogg! Richardson has endorsed Obama calling him a "once-in-a-lifetime leader" who can unite the nation and restore America's international leadership.
Last Edit: Mar 21, 2008 8:03:06 GMT -5 by troo - Back to Top
Dang. You beat me to the punch. I just read that myself. I knew he was going to go with Obama eventually. So when is your man Edwards going to step up and take a side?
As far as Voter ID cards, all you need in Wisconsin is a state-issued ID card and something to establish proof of residence - lease/utility bill - and you're set to vote. You can even register on-site at the polls on election day. I think Republican efforts to get a national voter ID are done more with Democrat voter suppression and an immigration crackdown in mind than voter fraud.
And Meg, I don't want you to feel like you're hijacking this thread. It's not like I called it "kdogg & troo's Election 2008 thread." Democracy is about determining the best options through deliberation and negotiation, no?
In Maryland and DC, you do not have to show identification. You just tell them your name - and I often have to point at my name on their sheets because they can never figure mine out.
And even though I moved to DC and changed my residence and everything, my name is still on the voting list in my mom's district.
I believe some ID should be necessary but there should be more than one option and easily acquired ones should be acceptable. A single state ID is just a option waiting to be abused like the Indiana example listed above.
Just move the acquisition site away from the people you don't want to vote and make sure there is no readily available public transportation to get them there. You have just drastically decreased the vote in that population. And you can blame it on the ever present budget constraints.
Voting is the single most important right of a citizen. Any and all efforts should be made to ensure it's availability. But I'm a liberal so of course I'd say that.
Last Edit: Mar 21, 2008 11:29:14 GMT -5 by troo - Back to Top
I'm finally watching the video of Richardson endorsing Obama now.
I think Richardson's is one of the biggest remaining endorsements to land, given that it's starting to appear Edwards won't endorse anyone. That makes him the most prominent 2008 also-ran left (and note that none of them have endorsed Hillary.) I see this as taking more wind out of Hillary's sails than it put into Obama's. This is a particular rebuke considering his past with the Clintons, being that he held a couple Cabinet positions in Bill's administration. Not to mention that Hillary won New Mexico. He could have plausibly gone either way on this, and I'm glad to see he's gone with Obama. I hope this is the beginning of that superdelegate uprising I was mentioning earlier.
Obama getting both Richardson and Dodd (who are both very friendly with the Clintons) is a BIG deal. I'm thinking Edwards won't endorse before North Carolina for similar reason as he dropped out before Super tuesday. I don't think he wanted to be seen as purely a spoiler then and doesn't want to be seen as influencing his home State too much (though I'm not sure how mush real sway he holds in NC.) Besides neither candidate has taken up his anti-corporate message and it looks like no one will. I think he'll not endorse before NC and likely not at all unless someone does .
Has Biden endorsed? I can't remember him doing it and he'd be a biggie.
I really feel that Gore is the only other big endorsement left and I don't see him endorsing. I think he feels he owes the Clintons for giving him the VP slot and I think he sees Obama as almost inevitably the winner.
After last week's speech, it looks like the SD's are moving toward Obama. Let's hope so.
I think Dodd and Richardson are the only ex-candidates who have endorsed so far. I doubt Kucinich will endorse either of them, and Gravel is still technically running as far as I know. That leaves only Edwards and Biden. I don't think Edwards will endorse, but Biden might. Perhaps they're both staying neutral in hopes of landing an administration job - attorney general and secretary of state respectively - either way?
As far as Gore owing it to the Clintons... I heard plenty of that talk from the Hillary people as a Richardson volunteer, and look how well that went for them.
As far as Gore owing it to the Clintons... I heard plenty of that talk from the Hillary people as a Richardson volunteer, and look how well that went for them.
Well there is quite a difference in VP and Sec of whatever.
I think Gore supports Obama from all I've heard and read but I don't think Gore is going against what he believes or anything, by not endorsing. I just think that he's being "diplomatic". He is the "Grand Old man" of the Party and I think he feels that responsibility. Right now there is no reason to pick a side. The system is still working (a little roughly I'll admit)
I think if things really start to fall apart Gore will step forward. But no real reason to make enemies now. He can possibly help unite the Party later.
Clinton has told a story several times about arriving in Bosnia under sniper fire for a visit, and the Airport greeting/lil rally being cancelled due to security concerns. They had to run to the cars.
NOT SO says the VIDEO of the event! TONS of people. A little girl read her a poem!
One thing the media's ignored that has particularly pissed me off: The Clinton camp had said a senior Obama staffer had made a remark to a Canadian official to ignore what he was saying about NAFTA renegotiations. The story just made a blip for a day before the truth came out - that the Clinton camp had actually done that and blatantly lied about Obama's people doing it instead. That falsehood never really came to light because the focus switched to the whole Rev. Wright controversy.
Wait wait wait. So you're telling me that Hillary lies to get people to believe that she has all this "experience" that she keeps bragging about. So you're telling me that a Clinton told a lie to further their political career. Nonsense. It's a vast right wing conspiracy. Ken Starr's behind all this
Come on - I think we all know that Hillary is all about only one thing - furthering herself and she will say and do whatever she has to do to get there.
Come on - I think we all know that Hillary is all about only one thing - furthering herself and she will say and do whatever she has to do to get there.
Hey, now... we all know she's also all about pantsuits.
Now Hillary says she "misspoke" cause she was sleepy. Even though she said the same thing a couple times before. And she's trying desperately to change the subject back to Rev. Wright. I have to say that I read his entire "God Damn America" sermon, and this whole thing has been blown so out of context is completely rediculous. I actually agree with pretty much the entire sermon.
Today Hillary gave a speech denouncing Obama for not leaving his church. (I guess she didn't pay attention to his speech last week.) And what's truly disgusting is she gave the speech at the offices of the publisher she once called the head of the "vast right wing conspiracy."
Hillary will stop at nothing to get the nomination. She doesn't care if it means destroying the Dem party, befriending her worst enemies and betraying everything she and we are supposed to stand for.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. "She MUST be stopped."
Hillary and George W. Bush are both members of the United Methodist Church. So she worships, in the same fashion, the same God that W claims speaks to him and told him invading Iraq would be a good idea.
I find this more disturbing than anything I've heard out of Rev. Wright, and I'm wishing someone would call her out on this.