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I could go either way on the Electoral college. Only twice has the popular vote not matched the electoral vote so I see it as not a major problem. Of course 2000 would have been a BIG deal but if ALL the votes in FL were counted, Gore won by any count.
I feel we've moved past the EU type "Union of States" which was in effect when the electoral college made sense. But I feel for smaller states which would get no consideration under a straight popular vote (of course they get little or no consideration now so...)
As I said, I can go either way.
And wooz, the Dems are trying to "really screw it up." I saw a recent poll somewhere that said 30% of Hillary voters now say they will vote McCain if Obama wins. Numbers are similar for Obama supporters.
I agree with smaller states getting no consideration. Gore in 2000 did not campaign at all in Montana adn other smaller states. This state had only 3 delegates. Assuming they would go repub but forgeting that the enviroment is a big deal for Montana and could be swayed. So Gore lost by a few delegates (6 I think) Florida wouldnt have mattered.
My lease here ends on July 31st. I've thought about that possibility, but I'm hesitant to make plans like that until I know what the deal is between me and my native state.
I also have a friend who'll put me up in the Twin Cities for the GOP convention, if I can come up with enough money for bail before going.
And, kdogg, maybe you won't have to travel very far. It's likely the "free speech zones" will be so far out you're likely to be in Stillwater or across the river in WI anyway.
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My lease here ends on July 31st. I've thought about that possibility, but I'm hesitant to make plans like that until I know what the deal is between me and my native state.
I also have a friend who'll put me up in the Twin Cities for the GOP convention, if I can come up with enough money for bail before going.
And, kdogg, maybe you won't have to travel very far. It's likely the "free speech zones" will be so far out you're likely to be in Stillwater or across the river in WI anyway.
This is where the need for bail money enters the picture...
Obama's gonna be here in West Chester on Wednesday cause Chris Matthew's Hardball is gonna be shooting on the WCU campus and Obama's a guest. I'm tryin to go, but the chances look slim because it's only for WCU students
Is that strictly to get in, or ticket availability in general? If it's the latter, you might stand a chance.
Does anybody have local elections tomorrow? We have two statewide votes in Wisconsin. One is a state Supreme Court contest. It's always one decent-to-good candidate versus one prevaricating sack-of-shit who's beholden to big business. I quacking hate these, and each one is worse than the last. Second, we have a constitutional amendment referendum on limiting the "Frankenstein veto." I could explain it, but linking to the most egregious use of it yet would probably better drive the point home: www.madison.com/wsj/files/veto.pdf
I am not sure if this was posted on here, but I thought i would share. This is a slam poetry reading about Obama. Just to give heads up, the language is strong, so this is not work friendly.
I think Obama needs to set a deadline for Hillary to drop out if she wishes to be considered as his running mate, preferably publicly.
She could still try to leverage her position into the number two spot otherwise. If she's warned in advance that she could rule out the possibility through her actions, it could provide a disincentive for her to remain in the running. It might not work, but at this point she's already throwing everything she's got at him so things coming from her can't get that much worse... can they?
No we couldn't get in. That's what Americanmary and I were refering to. We went down there to check it out. There were more abortion protesters than supporters of any candidate. Some of the signs against Obama were completely rediculous. One said "Obama is a winesipper" on one side and said "Take a limo Obama. You're a yuppie" on the other. That was a McCain supporter. Yeah, good one.
I'd say Obama is running ads 2:1 to Hillary's. Obama has this "rockstar" ad that makes him look like he's Bono. The only thing missing is him coming out and singing "It's a beautiful day!!" Hillary's ads just crack me the fuck up. She has another 3am ad, that's exactly the same as the last one, only this time it's an economic crisis. Really? Economic crisis phone calls at 3am? The markets are closed. I don't know who buys this sh!t she shoveling.
Post by BonnarooDetective on Apr 3, 2008 18:45:08 GMT -5
If Hillary is President and the phone rings at 3am concerning an economic problem, it would probably be the Chinese asking for suggestions as to what to do with all of our money.
So is Obama really surging as I've been reading? I saw that there was a poll released today that had him leading Hillary in Pennsylvania for the first time ever - albeit within the margin of error. Still, if she was leading by 20-some points a month ago that's impressive.
In other news, former Georgia Rep. Bob Barr might seek the Libertarian nomination and will decide by Memorial Day. Odd.
Anybody see in the news where Hillary keeps repeating this story she heard of this "mother and baby who died because they didn't have health care" and basically the hospital called the campaign and was like, "You were wrong, they did have health care, gg checking your facts"