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Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Nov 19, 2013 12:24:59 GMT -5
Yes. You can't separate your personal feelings from your duties as a mod. I tried to politely address this several times, but you just decided to act like the board Dad instead. That is stupid. People who do stupid things ARE stupid. You are stupid. And also f*ck you.
Yes. You can't separate your personal feelings from your duties as a mod. I tried to politely address this several times, but you just decided to act like the board Dad instead. That is stupid. People who do stupid things ARE stupid. You are stupid. And also f*ck you.
I copied the board guidelines and highlighted the parts that specifically address insulting other members.
Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Nov 19, 2013 12:33:59 GMT -5
I had not personal feelings about you before this week. And, as much as I often play the role of a foil to "the mods" around here, I like you all and quite obviously find this to be an enjoyable place. But the way you've acted the last couple days has been completely shameful. And now you're chasing people around to hammer out some petty grudge and hiding behind your mod hat to do it. It's terrible and a complete embarrassment.
I had not personal feelings about you before this week. And, as much as I often play the role of a foil to "the mods" around here, I like you all and quite obviously find this to be an enjoyable place. But the way you've acted the last couple days has been completely shameful. And now you're chasing people around to hammer out some petty grudge and hiding behind your mod hat to do it. It's terrible and a complete embarrassment.
This was my first post this morning concerning insulting other members.
"Checked them both. They are not duplicates. And can we please refrain from calling people stupid for their taste in music."
I fulfilled the request to check on the duplicates and simply asked to not insult others. Grudge? I then asked generally, again, to stop the personal insults. That was met with a complete refusal to abide by the board rules and led you to personal insults including telling me to Quack off.
It has nothing to do with the previous issue, where I never called anyone out by name. I did express the thought that some around here do take great pleasure in hammering other posters for just about anything. I should not have done that. I never made it personal, until I was attacked personally for my opinion on the matter. I tried to discuss the issue, but met with speculation on parts of what I had expressed with no request for any clarification. That is settled and over with. There have been many many blow ups on the this board over the years. They come and they go. There may be hurt feelings when people stoop to telling others to Quack off and they are idiots/stupid. But, asking people to quit insulting others is far from avenging a grudge.
I had not personal feelings about you before this week. And, as much as I often play the role of a foil to "the mods" around here, I like you all and quite obviously find this to be an enjoyable place. But the way you've acted the last couple days has been completely shameful. And now you're chasing people around to hammer out some petty grudge and hiding behind your mod hat to do it. It's terrible and a complete embarrassment.
This was my first post this morning concerning insulting other members.
"Checked them both. They are not duplicates. And can we please refrain from calling people stupid for their taste in music."
I fulfilled the request to check on the duplicates and simply asked to not insult others. Grudge? I then asked generally, again, to stop the personal insults. That was met with a complete refusal to abide by the board rules and led you to personal insults including telling me to Quack off.
It has nothing to do with the previous issue, where I never called anyone out by name. I did express the thought that some around here do take great pleasure in hammering other posters for just about anything. I should not have done that. I never made it personal, until I was attacked personally for my opinion on the matter. I tried to discuss the issue, but met with speculation on parts of what I had expressed with no request for any clarification. That is settled and over with. There have been many many blow ups on the this board over the years. They come and they go. There may be hurt feelings when people stoop to telling others to Quack off and they are idiots/stupid. But, asking people to quit insulting others is far from avenging a grudge.
So you're going to start policing one poster calling another poster "stupid?" This is a thing you're really going to do now? And it has no relation to what happened this weekend? This is a bad look, dude.
This was my first post this morning concerning insulting other members.
"Checked them both. They are not duplicates. And can we please refrain from calling people stupid for their taste in music."
I fulfilled the request to check on the duplicates and simply asked to not insult others. Grudge? I then asked generally, again, to stop the personal insults. That was met with a complete refusal to abide by the board rules and led you to personal insults including telling me to Quack off.
It has nothing to do with the previous issue, where I never called anyone out by name. I did express the thought that some around here do take great pleasure in hammering other posters for just about anything. I should not have done that. I never made it personal, until I was attacked personally for my opinion on the matter. I tried to discuss the issue, but met with speculation on parts of what I had expressed with no request for any clarification. That is settled and over with. There have been many many blow ups on the this board over the years. They come and they go. There may be hurt feelings when people stoop to telling others to Quack off and they are idiots/stupid. But, asking people to quit insulting others is far from avenging a grudge.
So you're going to start policing one poster calling another poster "stupid?" This is a thing you're really going to do now? And it has no relation to what happened this weekend? This is a bad look, dude.
I do it when I see it, or when it is reported. There was more than one person in the thread hurling insults. I simply asked them to stop. More than once. the second time it addressed anybody in the thread making them.
Look, I have been around long enough to know most people are perfectly agreeable people when not on the internet, even if they portray themselves in a less than agreeable way on here. So, do I (we) just let others insult members, then deal with it later...when "You are an idiot" turns into "Quack you and you family" and several pages of off topic flaming?
We frequently ask for threads to get back on topic. Of course, we do not see everything. I do not feel I was disrespectful or asked anything of anybody that was out of bounds.
We have made the decision not to ban. However, before the pitch forks and tiki torches come out, we have come up with a solution that we hope will take care of the problem. I have sent Ron a PM. It was well thought out, proof read for spelling, and looked over by the Mods. We have asked him to leave this community and never come back. His past indiscretions are too heinous to overlook. His half assed attempt at an explanation is mind boggling. His lack of remorse is unforgivable. His actions have caused a lot of discord amongst our community, and for that he needs to go. Quietly, no drama. No new thread begging for forgiveness or worse, calling out those of us that condemn him.
Why no ban? As has been pointed out, it's a slippery slope. Banning for something done in one's personal life and never mentioned on this board. And yes, this crime warrants the use of that slope. But in our opinion, this is worse than a ban. And what he deserves. We can push a button, and he is gone. Or we can take the time to write him a message and tell him why we never want to see him on this board again.
Well played folks! I 100% agree with this & I'm glad to (hopefully) see this disappear quietly in the rear view. This portion of this thread was a serious bummer.
So you're going to start policing one poster calling another poster "stupid?" This is a thing you're really going to do now? And it has no relation to what happened this weekend? This is a bad look, dude.
I do it when I see it, or when it is reported. There was more than one person in the thread hurling insults. I simply asked them to stop. More than once. the second time it addressed anybody in the thread making them.
Look, I have been around long enough to know most people are perfectly agreeable people when not on the internet, even if they portray themselves in a less than agreeable way on here. So, do I (we) just let others insult members, then deal with it later...when "You are an idiot" turns into "Quack you and you family" and several pages of off topic flaming?
We frequently ask for threads to get back on topic. Of course, we do not see everything. I do not feel I was disrespectful or asked anything of anybody that was out of bounds.
Really? Because you descended on my comment, but didn't even bother to mention the guy who told me to s*ck his d*ck. Interesting, since you're modding the board on a level playing field and all.
Look, it's not really a secret that you don't like a handful of people here (myself, horn, juggs, emoney), but follow your own advice and put us on ignore if you really hate the sight of us backhanded chimps in threads that much. There are other mods who can take care of our mean meanness and bullying, just pretend we don't exist like you've told us to do so many times.
I did first comment in light of your comment, it was one of the first posts I saw today. It was then followed by:
"Nope.Calling someone stupid for opinions is not acceptable. Nor is telling someone to suck a tent a pole (as one of them did) Some of it has been reactionary to their likes/dislikes. Neither is excusable. I do appreciate your defiant tone and your goal to weed out obnoxiousness around here.
If somebody is being overly obnoxious or rude, please use the report button and we will do our job. Calling them names just leads to more problems."
and
"Can we stay on topic AND stop with the insults? Thank you."
and
"Taken care of, Zapp. With another mod. I addressed everyone in the thread earlier. Asked to stop with the insults. If it doesn't, we generally shut down the thread. Thank you for pointing it out though."
I do not dislike anybody here. I dislike the way some people treat new posters or others on the board, at times.
Juggs and I have had disagreements before, sure. We have also found common ground at times. Or agreed to disagree. He has never told I was "stupid" or directly told me to "Fuck off" or "Fuck you". Nobody will go on ignore. I can assure you that.
Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Nov 19, 2013 16:25:41 GMT -5
Sorry I said "f*ck you." It was mostly for dramatic emphasis, since we were discussing how horrid it was to call someone "stupid." That said, I'm still unnerved by how you're acting but I'm more than happy to drop it.
In response to the recent moderators' note about not attacking a person's intelligence with respect to their opinion etc., I have a question.
Does this also apply to making fun of a person's, shall we say, advanced age as well?
To piggy back, are there allowances for the specific relationships of the people involved or is it a blanket thing? For example, I wouldn't think anything of Flanz tossing insults my way because I know him, and let's face it, the college football thread is 80% me and sang_xcx talking down to each other.
In response to the recent moderators' note about not attacking a person's intelligence with respect to their opinion etc., I have a question.
Does this also apply to making fun of a person's, shall we say, advanced age as well?
To piggy back, are there allowances for the specific relationships of the people involved or is it a blanket thing? For example, I wouldn't think anything of Flanz tossing insults my way because I know him, and let's face it, the college football thread is 80% me and @sangrel talking down to each other.
Good question. Mine wasn't a real question. This one is.
In response to the recent moderators' note about not attacking a person's intelligence with respect to their opinion etc., I have a question.
Does this also apply to making fun of a person's, shall we say, advanced age as well?
To piggy back, are there allowances for the specific relationships of the people involved or is it a blanket thing? For example, I wouldn't think anything of Flanz tossing insults my way because I know him, and let's face it, the college football thread is 80% me and @sangrel talking down to each other.
Moderator discretion will be used. We can tell when it's in good fun for both parties, and when it's clearly not
To piggy back, are there allowances for the specific relationships of the people involved or is it a blanket thing? For example, I wouldn't think anything of Flanz tossing insults my way because I know him, and let's face it, the college football thread is 80% me and @sangrel talking down to each other.
Moderator discretion will be used. We can tell when it's in good fun for both parties, and when it's clearly not
Fair enough. I figured as much. I just wanted to be sure.
In response to the recent moderators' note about not attacking a person's intelligence with respect to their opinion etc., I have a question.
Does this also apply to making fun of a person's, shall we say, advanced age as well?
To piggy back, are there allowances for the specific relationships of the people involved or is it a blanket thing? For example, I wouldn't think anything of Flanz tossing insults my way because I know him, and let's face it, the college football thread is 80% me and sang_xcx talking down to each other.
If you're friends with someone on the board and you guys/gals both understand that it's a friendly joke then I don't think it's a problem.
Basically if you have to be a d*ck.....make sure you're being a d*ck to a friend who knows you're just d*ckin' around.
To piggy back, are there allowances for the specific relationships of the people involved or is it a blanket thing? For example, I wouldn't think anything of Flanz tossing insults my way because I know him, and let's face it, the college football thread is 80% me and sang_xcx talking down to each other.
If you're friends with someone on the board and you guys/gals both understand that it's a friendly joke then I don't think it's a problem.
Basically if you have to be a d*ck.....make sure you're being a d*ck to a friend who knows you're just d*ckin' around.
I can't tell what you're really saying here because the f*cking word filter makes it too hard to read. D*ck.
Picture Inforoo as a giant mansion. When most of us long-standing members came here, we walked in the front door, awkwardly poked our head around, observed the discussions and then eased into things.
Then there is the other type of noob, the one who sprints through the screen door while it's still closed, interrupts civil discourse to tell people Kanye sucks, then throws feces all over the living room before commandeering the master suite. I will never stop telling those people they're f*cking terrible and to get the f*ck out of my (our) house.
