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Well I mean like REALLY hungover, to the point where it was affecting their performance in a negative way.
I loved AIC back in the day and I still love the songs they wrote but I could never bring myself to watch them without Layne, let alone pay money to. I know, I know Jerry wrote and sang a lot too but it's just exploitation to me. Did they really need the money that bad? Why not just move on to other projects? I couldn't do it.
Well I mean like REALLY hungover, to the point where it was affecting their performance in a negative way.
Ouch. The last time I saw them was a few weeks ago and they just didn't seem happy at all. One of the worst Lucero shows I've seen to date. I figured it was the venue, but you maybe onto something.
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Well I mean like REALLY hungover, to the point where it was affecting their performance in a negative way.
I loved AIC back in the day and I still love the songs they wrote but I could never bring myself to watch them without Layne, let alone pay money to. I know, I know Jerry wrote and sang a lot too but it's just exploitation to me. Did they really need the money that bad? Why not just move on to other projects? I couldn't do it.
how can it be exploitation? jerry wrote almost all of the songs. the only problem i had with it was them getting a new singer to replace layne. at first i really had a problem with that. but this guy does a great job. he doesn't try to be layne. he sings the songs his own way and he nails it. he's a rock star in his own right. it was a great show.
Post by cornquacker on Mar 5, 2010 13:12:09 GMT -5
The four of them combined are AIC, without Layne they are not AIC to me personally. There's nothing sad about that. What's sad is that he's dead.
I get that he wrote the songs but when talking about live performances that doesn't matter to me at all. Take Elton John for example. He doesn't write any of his lyrics. If he died and the guy who wrote the lyrics performed as "Elton John" it would be bullshit. That's kind of an unfair comparison because Elton wrote the music to his songs, as did Jerry with AIC songs, but you get the point.
By the way, Sublime just got sued big time for this.
The four of them combined are AIC, without Layne they are not AIC to me personally. There's nothing sad about that. What's sad is that he's dead.
I get that he wrote the songs but when talking about live performances that doesn't matter to me at all. Take Elton John for example. He doesn't write any of his lyrics. If he died and the guy who wrote the lyrics performed as "Elton John" it would be bullhonkey brah. That's kind of an unfair comparison because Elton wrote the music to his songs, as did Jerry with AIC songs, but you get the point.
By the way, Sublime just got sued big time for this.
sublime got sued because the guy that wrote the songs is dead. that changes everything.
Post by Mean Mr. Mustard on Mar 5, 2010 15:53:02 GMT -5
how can it be exploitation? jerry wrote almost all of the songs. the only problem i had with it was them getting a new singer to replace layne. at first i really had a problem with that. but this guy does a great job. he doesn't try to be layne. he sings the songs his own way and he nails it. he's a rock star in his own right. it was a great show.[/quote]
Agreed 100%. Saw them last weak it was an unbelievable show, best show Iv'e seen since Bonnarooand Paul McCartney last August. Yes layne is/was incredible, but Jerry is the heart and soul of alice in chains. Also, the new album, along with Jerry's solo work, show that they capable of continuing without Layne at a high level. here is Jerry Cantrell's response to people questioning them continuing:
CNN: People like a good comeback story -- but at the same time, you have some fans who are saying, "How dare you go on without Layne."
Cantrell: Well, you can listen to those old records and we'll make some new ones. They're there!
We're lucky to have a pretty strong core audience that has kind of been with us through thick and thin, and that's cool. We're not really for everybody, and that's fine with us. It's nice to have an opinion about it, but all that stuff happened to us for real. It's really our life. So for us to come through that type of adversity, and for us to stand up, I think is a pretty heroic thing and I'm really proud of all of us.
Mike Inez: Ultimately, we're our own hardest, harshest critics, you know. If the four guys here didn't feel good about this, we just wouldn't do it.
CNN: You have the blessing of Layne's family, correct?
Cantrell: Well, they are family, and they've always been supportive through it, and we love them dearly. Layne and his family are always a part of our family, and always will be. It's all good.
I used to say, sure, do Alice In Chains shows with another singer... just don't put out any new material and call it AIC.
Whatever, it is what it is... and that's a more solid live band than any of the videos I've seen of old AIC (save for Unplugged) would suggest. Seriously, Layne was so f'ed up half the time he couldn't sing. This guy respects the work of Layne, to the point of imitation obviously, but with the new songs, there is a new element to it.
I can't even argue with your point, because I see it. But, AIC of new deserves WAY more credit that allot of people are blindly depriving them.
Seriously, see em in concert, then talk to me. Otherwise, it's a moot point.
Post by questionablesanity on Mar 5, 2010 17:06:48 GMT -5
I went to see the Join last night. Darren Shearer and Jamie Shields from the New Deal teamed up with Brownie and Magner from the Disco Biscuits. It was all improv and all amazing. I think they are playing two more shows in Illinois, so if you are in the state and live jamtronica, GO. I took some pics but I got really drunk so I'm not sure how they turned out.
A Thieve's Parade 2/24 Conspirator 2/26 Kevin Smith 3/11 Keller 3/17 Papadosio 3/18 JJ Grey 3/25 Bela Fleck/Edgar Meyer 3/26 Toubab Krewe 3/27 O'Death 4/11 Budos Band 4/22 EOTO 4/28 Summer Camp 5/6-29 All Good
Saw UM on Friday night. Band went on about 9:30 played till 11 then 2nd set started 11:30. The venue was small but packed to capacity and the energy was good. Light show was stellar, the jams were part funky, part spacey and part bluesy. After seeing the show and UM the add to ROO, I think UM may play that 4 hour slot (MMJ 2008, moe 2009).
Saw my first shows of the Pit Stop Music Marathon last night. Kentucky Nightmare, Blue Giants, and The Fruit Bats. Kentucky Nightmare was very Weezer-ish, Blue Giants killed (girl lead guitar + good pedal steel = solid), and The Fruit Bats were AWESOME. I was in the front row in a tiny venue which made everything 20 times better.
Eric Johnson, lead vocals for The Fruit Bats and also from The Shins, stole my heart.
Video of my favorite Fruit Bats song (be patient through the introductions) www.youtube.com/watch#!v=NepqfHeqXrs
Saw my buddy's band The Restoration last night, along with a few other bands. They were good, as always. The set was short (only had 30 minutes) but sweet.
They're about to release an album, here soon, so you guys should check it out.
Going to a house show tonight. The shows they put on are ALWAYS off the hook. Tonight's lineup: *Da Comrade! (from Philly) *Manawithorn (from Brooklyn) *Ming Ming Dance Company (from Cambridge, MA) *Yoko, Oh No! (from Allston, MA)
I will let you all know how it is, but I'm sure it will be freakin' awesome.
EDIT: And it was! Also, there was a surprise set from Fake Hooker (from Brooklyn). Such an amazing time!
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Post by questionablesanity on Mar 14, 2010 12:50:54 GMT -5
My brother got free Norah Jones tickets for last night at the Murat Theatre in Indy. I worked 12 hours then sped all the way there. The opener was a singer/songwriter with a guy who played electric guitar and melodica. While I was watching it, I thought it was boring. But only because I was tired and corned. They were talented but I hate it when the warm up act is more mellow than the headliner. After seeing the whole show, I realized that they were actually more entertaining than the headliner.
It was a mixed crowd of old and young but mostly 40+. Which I'm guessing was because tickets were around $100 each. My brother got the tickets from the radio station. He often gets these extras due to his line of work and I usually benefit from them. We were center orchestra about 15 rows back.
It was odd, the lights went down after set break, Norah came on stage with the band and it was almost like people didn't notice. Hardly anyone clapped. It was very strange, but it was a weird crowd. She played guitar as much, if not more, than she played the piano. She's not a bad guitarist at all. The opener played guitar and sang back up vocals with her. Apparently, they have an all girl band that they both play in in New York. They played a ton of new stuff, which was okay. She played her hits, a couple of jazz standards, but she got the house moving with a Johnny Cash cover. It was a quick 90 minute set. They came back out after for the encore and played in front of one mic for a song, then quickly played another then they were done. The most entertaining point of the whole show was Norah playing piano solo singing about her dog. I'm not a huge Norah fan but that song's lyrics were very clever. I need to find it. All of the songs had very odd endings. The drummer had a very unique style of playing where he rarely used the snare drum, rarely used the crash cymbal. It was all toms and ride, occasionally the splash. More like "jungle drumming" as my brother put it. They were super strict about cameras. A security guard plowed through the seated audience when my brother tried to take a pic. The best part about the show were the lights, which were very impressive. I figured it would be all mood lighting but it was reminded me of a mellow Phish show. There was tons going on. I counted 32 rotating colored spots like all the jam bands use in addition to all of the house cans. It was a decent show but I would never pay money to see her, especially $100. I will be seeing a certain world famous piano player/singer soon in a 2000 seat venue and it's only $150. This guy usually plays amphitheatres so it'll be worth it. Norah is def not worth $100/seat.
I can't imagine watching Norah's show in the baking sun in TN. I'm sure she will be on Which, which will suck. I'm glad that I can say that I saw her though.
A Thieve's Parade 2/24 Conspirator 2/26 Kevin Smith 3/11 Keller 3/17 Papadosio 3/18 JJ Grey 3/25 Bela Fleck/Edgar Meyer 3/26 Toubab Krewe 3/27 O'Death 4/11 Budos Band 4/22 EOTO 4/28 Summer Camp 5/6-29 All Good
portugal the man rocked the fuck out last night in atlanta. technical difficulties and all. is it weird to be in a band but have no idea how to hook your shit up? they didn't have anyone to do it for them. the guitarist had some problems and he just seemed clueless how to fix it. but they rocked nevertheless.
yes that show was awesome. i really enjoyed The Dig and Port O'Brien as well. bought The Dig's album. Portugal killed it though. I wish they had a light show, I think they normally do but said something about someone being sick? It looked like the Earl didn't have any space for any kind of lighting rig anyways. moving lights would have really made the show even better. Still absolutely in love with this band right now. Definitely an all-time favorite.
yes that show was awesome. i really enjoyed The Dig and Port O'Brien as well. bought The Dig's album. Portugal killed it though. I wish they had a light show, I think they normally do but said something about someone being sick? It looked like the Earl didn't have any space for any kind of lighting rig anyways. moving lights would have really made the show even better. Still absolutely in love with this band right now. Definitely an all-time favorite.
yea i think they are my favorite band now. they are definitely the best young band doing it right now. those guys are so good. the opening bands were really good as well. can you help out with the set list? it's all kinda running together. this is what i have. www.setlist.fm/setlist/portugal-the-man/2010/the-earl-atlanta-ga-3d4b1cf.html
Post by cornquacker on Mar 17, 2010 15:29:15 GMT -5
Has anyone seen The Big Pink / A Place to Bury Strangers tour yet? The word is Big Pink blows and APTBS is still as awesome as they were before. The Big Pink album isn't bad, shame they can't recapture it. I'm seeing them tuesday. Can't wait to see APTBS again and I definitely won't forget earplugs this time.
Post by Hipster Doofus on Mar 19, 2010 14:14:27 GMT -5
I'm seeing AIC tonight.
This will be the third time I've seen this incarnation, and I echo what others have said....just go to a show. They definitely kick ass. To me the best part is that about 80% of the crowd sings along to the old songs and you don't have to feel bad about drowning out the lead singer because...well, it's not Layne anyway. It's really a very cathartic experience.
I'm really pumped to hear more of the new songs. Only got 3 on the first leg.