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George Harrison, without a shadow of a doubt... he wrote my favorite songs. His solo stuff was head and shoulders above the others'.
Second would be Lennon... great writer and very charismatic. His solo music was good for the most part.
Then Paul... great voice and held together the pop element of the band. His solo music always left a sour taste in my mouth.
Then there's Ringo... I think Bill Hicks said it best: "You know they were on some drukqs to let Ringo write them... 'We need to get Ringo down... he's sayin' something about a Yellow Tamborine..."
George is by faaaaar the worst Beatle. He had to work hard to leave stains on otherwise perfect pop albums.
no way. If you think - Here Comes the Sun, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, I Me Mine, Something and Within You Without You - are stains, then you are in luck - you have a lot to discover about the beatles!
Then there's Ringo... I think Bill Hicks said it best: "You know they were on some drukqs to let Ringo write them... 'We need to get Ringo down... he's sayin' something about a Yellow Tamborine..."
Post by steveternal on Feb 13, 2008 22:54:00 GMT -5
The Macca. First of all I can't understand why anyone wouldn't say either Paul or John, as they were indisputably the heart and soul of the group. George and Ringo were both tremendously important, but not on the level as the greatest songwriting duo ever. And as for choosing Paul over John, well, it's very tough you know. If it were strictly about what they did in the group, I probably couldn't decide. But I always preferred Paul's personality that came through his life and work more than John's. John was an inspiring activist and so on, but he was also so f***ing full of himself, angry, rude, and just generally contemptuous of most everyone. All this has been swept under a rug since his tragic assassination, but she shouldn't be sainted as many seem to want. He was a genius, but also kind of a jerk. Paul was a genius as well and much less of a jerk. Also, I do slightly prefer Paul's solo work. He had some embarrassing moments, but some brilliant ones too. John's defining moment is a syrupy piano ballad that almost no one seems to realize is basically about nihilism.
Post by sparklybecca on Feb 13, 2008 22:55:46 GMT -5
John. Because he was my favorite from the start, when I learned of my love for them when i was 14. With maturity I've come to love George, but John is always #1 in my heart. anyways, i love the beatles they were my nsync in highschool ;D
Post by tonydoblel on Feb 13, 2008 23:00:58 GMT -5
for me its Paul, and in second place George and George (martin that is) if were counting the other members of the beatles family, george martin is without a doubt the best music producer who ever lived.
Post by tonydoblel on Feb 13, 2008 23:03:42 GMT -5
oh, and i forgot to mention i was george in a school play when i was like 9, it was pretty cool, loved the beatles ever since, but it embarrasses me whenever i watch the video, i didn't even know how to hold a plastic guitar back then.
Paul and John were great songwriters, but George was an admirable human being. To me, more than the others, he used his experience with the Beatles to grow as an artist and a person. It's hard to think of another 60s area musician I admire more than him. The dude financed some great movies too...
^^^Thanks for giving a good argument. I'd like to see a lot more people explain their votes-- especially the George folk.
I love John. I dislike Paul. I think they were/are both very talented songwriters with massive flaws that complimented each other perfectly. As much as Lennon would hate to hear it, I honestly think Paul is a much more clever wordsmith. And while Paul's known for pop music, I believe John wrote the better melodies. Plus, John helped keep Paul's sentimentality in check. Apart from each other, I think their work suffered.
Musically George was his own man. He had his own vision. He had a more earnest, poetic quality to his work. He seemed to take himself far less seriously than his more prominent counterparts. And I really do believe that All Things Must Pass is THE solo album by a former Beatle, as much as I love Imagine, Plastic Ono Band and Ram.
i voted for george because he plays sitar. i love the sitar. i dont know how to play one because from what i've heard it is a very difficult instrument to learn. the concert for bangladesh cd with bob dylan is awesome too.
i am voting based on who i like the most, not who i think the best musician/songwriter is. paul and john's songs are more or less what made the beatles music legends. as dudezer put it, george was an admirable human being.
btw did anyone that saw WALK HARD think the beatles scene was the best scene in the whole movie? i loved it.
I'd go with Paul. I don't factor in how good of a person they seem to be...I don't think you can really tell this about people you don't know.
What swayed my vote over John (the other indisputable legend who dramatically changed the history of music in the group) is the bass playing. This is an often overlooked area where the Beatles were revolutionary and extremely influencing. The Beatles changed the musical landscape in a lot of ways including songwriting, recording technique and pop-culture impact. As far as their musicianship, they were quite good, but the only ways they were really revolutionary and unique were in the use of crazy instruments and sound sources and Paul's bass playing. Paul based his style on Motown/r&b influences but established a melodic jazz-leaning style that basically launched an entire "school" of bass style. Tune into the bass playing on some of the more straightforward, bluesy Beatles songs and see how much Paul has going on. Only in Motown was there as much going on with the electric bass at this time and Paul brought that style into whole new areas of rock music. For a long time I've heard that he plays some of the better drum parts too (The End for example), but I think that may be disputed.
The solo work is mixed, but Live and Let Die is awesome among other things.
Combined with the overall songwriting genius this stuff puts him over the top for me.
Post by strumntheguitar on Feb 15, 2008 15:53:05 GMT -5
It's hard for me to choose between John or George... I love both of them and admire their talents tremendously. I think when it comes down to it though, I just have to pick John. He's my favorite "character" on the Abbey Road cover, his solo work is incredible in my opinion, and his contributions to the band were endless! (not that the others didn't contribute enough)
What swayed my vote over John (the other indisputable legend who dramatically changed the history of music in the group) is the bass playing. This is an often overlooked area where the Beatles were revolutionary and extremely influencing. The Beatles changed the musical landscape in a lot of ways including songwriting, recording technique and pop-culture impact. As far as their musicianship, they were quite good, but the only ways they were really revolutionary and unique were in the use of crazy instruments and sound sources and Paul's bass playing. Paul based his style on Motown/r&b influences but established a melodic jazz-leaning style that basically launched an entire "school" of bass style. Tune into the bass playing on some of the more straightforward, bluesy Beatles songs and see how much Paul has going on. Only in Motown was there as much going on with the electric bass at this time and Paul brought that style into whole new areas of rock music. For a long time I've heard that he plays some of the better drum parts too (The End for example), but I think that may be disputed.
Good stuff. I have some John Lennon bootlegs where you can hear him getting frustrated with his bass players cause they didn't play like Paul. Can't imagine what the Beatles rhythm section would've sounded like if Paul hadn't been there...
