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^ I'm not sure how mainstream comedy has anything to do with funny comedy...if it were music I'd know where you were coming from, but not comics. Maybe by "funny" you meant "lesser-known."
Too bad Mitch couldn't make it...
If I could have any comic living or dead it would be Bill Hicks.
Agreed.
"Dude, the freeway's melting!" "..put it in the jar..."
^ I'm not sure how mainstream comedy has anything to do with funny comedy...if it were music I'd know where you were coming from, but not comics. Maybe by "funny" you meant "lesser-known."
Too bad Mitch couldn't make it...
mostly i mean chris rock... has he been funny in the past decade??? he just seems racist to me. just not something id expect to see on the mainstage before metallica takes the stage in TN. and i must admit that i was thinking that andy milinakis was zach galifinakis but my friend just informed me i was wrong. so that alleviates a large portion of my concern. and atleast dane cook isnt there.... yet!
id like some george carlin, robert shimmel or brian regan. but im not going so it dosent matter. and when i did go i never made it to the comedy tent anyhow. so its pretty insignifigant.
Yeah, I'm wondering about the Chris Rock thing. I actually always loved his standup stuff, but I'm curious what he'll bust out for the main stage performance. Then again, if he's scheduled against a great band I want to see...I'll never know.
This is my last Bonnaroo, so I guess that's one of the reasons I'm so ambivalent about this year. I actually want to see if the poop hits the fan this year as much as I want to go for the fun of it...but the lineup is still just about perfect for me (15+ bands I love scattered pretty evenly throughout the weekend). I'm just gonna start going to smaller fests from here on out, and the only reason I'm still going to Roo this year is because a family friend turned 18 and he's finally able to go to Bonnaroo, and I'm taking him because everyone should have the experience at least once.
When I get back down to Florida to set up shop, I'll just start going to Wanee and Langerado...would've gone to Allgood this year if not for the previously mentioned circumstances. I think the festival is definitely changing - that's hard to deny - but I don't think it's a cataclysmic change. Yet.
Post by itrainmonkeys on May 5, 2008 16:55:11 GMT -5
Mainstream comedy?
David Cross, Zach Galifianakis, and Brian Posehn are NOT mainstream comedy.
Chris Rock is a comedy legend. His standups are hilarious (an opinion.....I realize some don't find him funny) and i'm glad he's at Bonnaroo. It gives them an extra incentive for some people to go.
Well, MTV2 does still play music*...even though nobody seems to have it.
But I don't think MTV's there for the music. I think they're there because Bonnaroo has become a cultural event. Everyone knows about it now, so it's big news. They do news. MTV2 does not play music.
id like some george carlin, robert shimmel or brian regan. but im not going so it dosent matter. and when i did go i never made it to the comedy tent anyhow. so its pretty insignifigant.
There are some that would argue George Carlin is mainstream, due to the number of people that go to his shows and his level of general name recognition and popularity. And Brian Regan? Ugh. That kind of safe comedy is "mainstream" if by mainstream you mean moderate and not at all extreme or risk-taking in any direction so as to appeal to as many people as possible (in other words, what mainstream is supposed to mean). And yes, I've seen Carlin and Regan live.
well, MTV were pretty big proponents of Metallica and Pearl Jam
- this one makes me cackle... they TRIED to ride the Pearl Jam wave as the popularity rose but then PJ stopped them in their tracks by refusing to make videos after Jeremy for years. And Mtv really only played two Metallica videos to death back in the day- "One" and then "Enter Sandman" - everything else was relatively scarce. And compared to the NKOTB, Madonna, Def Leppard, Van Halen... etc... of that era, Metallica barely got played at all.
We've had this discussion a million times. If you press those who say Roo is mainstream into actually saying what they mean by mainstream they start to indicate listener base numbers, thereby meaning the Dead, Johnny Cash et all are WAY mainstream by their logic. They don't count ACTUAL Mtv darlings into their equation like countless boy bands, Britney Spears et al because it'd mess up their vitrol-graph.
What they mean is that Bonnaroo went outside their comfort zone and they don't like it.
But if by mainstream you mean the actual definition: compromising to appeal to a larger audience, you don't get a less-compromising set of bands than most that have played at Roo (but if you look at Roo's first few years you'll see several examples, despite what the "Roo's changed" crowd says: the first years gave us Norah Jones and William Hung). And as much as I may not think Metallica is a band I need to see ever again, they have largely not compromised (cutting their hair all at once notwithstanding) and Pearl Jam / WSP / Petty / Tool / Radiohead have made whole careers in being who they want to be, pushing boundaries WAY before compromising (in fact, Pearl Jam, Petty and Tool have taken on their industries outright in lawsuits- hardly "mainstream" to buck the very system signing checks).
And security bumped up a bit between 05 and 06 IMHO, but stayed level from there. The stuff I've seen get through security is still pretty funny/awesome. I've met totally cool and totally ridiculously bad guards.
^ I'm not sure how mainstream comedy has anything to do with funny comedy...if it were music I'd know where you were coming from, but not comics. Maybe by "funny" you meant "lesser-known."
Too bad Mitch couldn't make it...
If I could have any comic living or dead it would be Bill Hicks.
* The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills and it's very brightly coloured and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say, "Hey, don't worry, don't be afraid ever, because – this is just a ride." And we … kill those people. "Shut him up. We have a lot invested in this ride. Shut him up. Look at my furrows of worry. Look at my big bank account and my family. This just has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. Jesus, murdered; Martin Luther King, murdered; Malcolm X, murdered; Gandhi, murdered; John Lennon, murdered; Reagan … wounded. But it doesn't matter, because – it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money. A choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.
* In many parts of our troubled world, people are yelling 'Revolution!'. In Tennessee they're yelling 'Evolution! We want our thumbs!'
the first year i was there they head security guy announced that they were looking for glass and weapons only. security people would comment about my pipe or my bag... "nice shit, have a good time". then in 05 some yuppie custie dude took my poop on the way into centeroo. then i started hiding poop. but they go through my bag nearly everytime. and they pat me down too. its so retarded. i try to pick a girl with dreads. its always a no search. but thats hard to do now days at roo. i think security is ran by beta theta fi or whatever the hell that stuff is. and dont get me started on the horse people. they are just elevated police now days. and the shady security people out in the campgrounds that im completely convinced were working with the nitrous mafia to sell balloons and shakedown innocent campers. roo has gone from the coolest security to the worst group of people ive met.
I love it when hippies whine about getting busted for doing something illegal. Security is there to keep contraband out of the festival. It's their job. I agree many opprotunistic douchebags have signed on over the years to try and take a little something for themselves, but w/ a reputation like Bonnaroo's that was inevitable. Still, in 6 years I've had exactly 1 problem w/ centeroo gate security (some frat punk tryed to swipe my wife's asthma meds because he thought it was something fun). You just need to pick the right lines, and remember if the search gets a bit musch for you just walk away and pick another line. The yellow shirts aren't cops, they can't detain you.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
the first year i was there they head security guy announced that they were looking for glass and weapons only. security people would comment about my pipe or my bag... "nice shit, have a good time". then in 05 some yuppie custie dude took my poop on the way into centeroo. then i started hiding poop. but they go through my bag nearly everytime. and they pat me down too. its so retarded. i try to pick a girl with dreads. its always a no search. but thats hard to do now days at roo. i think security is ran by beta theta fi or whatever the hell that stuff is. and dont get me started on the horse people. they are just elevated police now days. and the shady security people out in the campgrounds that im completely convinced were working with the nitrous mafia to sell balloons and shakedown innocent campers. roo has gone from the coolest security to the worst group of people ive met.
I love it when hippies whine about getting busted for doing something illegal. Security is there to keep contraband out of the festival. It's their job. I agree many opprotunistic douchebags have signed on over the years to try and take a little something for themselves, but w/ a reputation like Bonnaroo's that was inevitable. Still, in 6 years I've had exactly 1 problem w/ centeroo gate security (some frat punk tryed to swipe my wife's asthma meds because he thought it was something fun). You just need to pick the right lines, and remember if the search gets a bit musch for you just walk away and pick another line. The yellow shirts aren't cops, they can't detain you.
well if you read what i said the definition of "contraband" has been drastically changed over the years as far as yellow shirt security at roo is concerned. shit they even added glowsticks to their list last year.
Post by stallion pt. 2 on May 6, 2008 20:32:25 GMT -5
2002's list of contraband items is almost identical to last years (except for the glass bottle thing they added in 2006). The glowstick thing last year was new, but apparently bands like STS9 had been complaining about flying projectiles and I guess Roo decided to keep those out, too. And seriously, if you need glowsticks to enjoy a show the music must not be very good. They're just glowsticks. Really, who cares?
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
The security at 'roo is pretty damn relaxed vs most other festivals. The only rules involve basic safety and liability stuff. Yeah apparently 27,000 glowsticks in the air at one time was a bit much, but hey if you couldn't sneak some glowsticks into centeroo you were not trying to.
i would say newroo has the strictist security. (excluding wakarusa of course) langerado was kinda sketchy too. all good has no security whatsoever. you can buy party favors from security at allgood. multiple tanks rage right out on the main shakedown. and to get into the stage they are more concerned about umbrellas and what not then anything else. some people complained about the vibes at ilcc. and ya the car checks were the worst ive seen. but once you were in its pretty free. you could take your cooler to the stage if ya wanted. at echo project they let us in with mixed drinks everytime we walked in and i dint feel the need to hide stuff. a quick glance in the bag and your through. roo has involved being patted down and pockets emptied the past 2 years. and as far as security at smaller fests its not anything like roo. what fests have you been to where roo type security is the norm?
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i would say newroo has the strictist security. (excluding wakarusa of course) langerado was kinda sketchy too. all good has no security whatsoever. you can buy party favors from security at allgood. multiple tanks rage right out on the main shakedown. and to get into the stage they are more concerned about umbrellas and what not then anything else. some people complained about the vibes at ilcc. and ya the car checks were the worst ive seen. but once you were in its pretty free. you could take your cooler to the stage if ya wanted. at echo project they let us in with mixed drinks everytime we walked in and i dint feel the need to hide stuff. a quick glance in the bag and your through. roo has involved being patted down and pockets emptied the past 2 years. and as far as security at smaller fests its not anything like roo. what fests have you been to where roo type security is the norm?
Ultra Fest. Nothing was allowed in--no water, not even closed, no food, and NO BACKPACKS. They pat you down on the way in...more extensively than Bonnaroo...go through your purse...and then you get in. The security line is way longer and took longer than Bonnaroo.
It does exist. Also, I took glowsticks into centeroo around my neck last year and tied to my bag. I had no issues.
i would say newroo has the strictist security. (excluding wakarusa of course) langerado was kinda sketchy too. all good has no security whatsoever. you can buy party favors from security at allgood. multiple tanks rage right out on the main shakedown. and to get into the stage they are more concerned about umbrellas and what not then anything else. some people complained about the vibes at ilcc. and ya the car checks were the worst ive seen. but once you were in its pretty free. you could take your cooler to the stage if ya wanted. at echo project they let us in with mixed drinks everytime we walked in and i dint feel the need to hide stuff. a quick glance in the bag and your through. roo has involved being patted down and pockets emptied the past 2 years. and as far as security at smaller fests its not anything like roo. what fests have you been to where roo type security is the norm?
Ultra Fest. Nothing was allowed in--no water, not even closed, no food, and NO BACKPACKS. They pat you down on the way in...more extensively than Bonnaroo...go through your purse...and then you get in. The security line is way longer and took longer than Bonnaroo.
It does exist. Also, I took glowsticks into centeroo around my neck last year and tied to my bag. I had no issues.
electro/'rave' type fests aalllllllllllllllways have ridiculous searches. they used to make me take my shoes off at massives in california, and i seriously was sexually assaulted basically during searches at those types of events too...
well it looks like that is a giant rave in miami with no camping. i would expect that. theres a big difference between that and a camping festival like roo. and i dont thin i need to mention the differences between miami and manchester
well it looks like that is a giant rave in miami with no camping. i would expect that. theres a big difference between that and a camping festival like roo. and i dont thin i need to mention the differences between miami and manchester
well it looks like that is a giant rave in miami with no camping. i would expect that. theres a big difference between that and a camping festival like roo. and i dont thin i need to mention the differences between miami and manchester
One has more Oxycotin?
LOL.
Thanks for hitting the Tennessee nail right on the head.
i would say newroo has the strictist security. (excluding wakarusa of course) langerado was kinda sketchy too. all good has no security whatsoever. you can buy party favors from security at allgood. multiple tanks rage right out on the main shakedown. and to get into the stage they are more concerned about umbrellas and what not then anything else. some people complained about the vibes at ilcc. and ya the car checks were the worst ive seen. but once you were in its pretty free. you could take your cooler to the stage if ya wanted. at echo project they let us in with mixed drinks everytime we walked in and i dint feel the need to hide stuff. a quick glance in the bag and your through. roo has involved being patted down and pockets emptied the past 2 years. and as far as security at smaller fests its not anything like roo. what fests have you been to where roo type security is the norm?
Well I went Big Summer Classic at Zoe last year, and Zoe which if anyone has ever been there other than BSC knows, is the most wide open festival site in existence. But they had a lot of people and a comparable security staff to Bonnaroo. They are not that bad, if you have your shit together, and don't look quacked up you can get away with almost anything. In 06 and 07 they clamped down a little, but mainly in a way to ensure the safety of everyone there i.e. no glass we have barefoot hippies, and pardon but we don't think we can actually let you bring a ten pound bag of NO NO Word! in with you. Glowsticks sure, but I had one or two for personal use every night and no one ever said a word to me, apparently 14 in a backpack raised some eyebrows. I think I can live without having glowsticks thrown at me in the middle of a Disco Biscuits glowstick war Honestly keeping the tanks off Shakedown is a good thing, and though we all know there are no NO NO Words!! at Bonnaroo, it is not like I ever hear of anyone ever having a bad time either. All in all I have very little complaints about the security at 'roo. I mean what do you want to do that you are having trouble doing at bonnaroo that makes you think security is that bad there.
i would say newroo has the strictist security. (excluding wakarusa of course) langerado was kinda sketchy too. all good has no security whatsoever. you can buy party favors from security at allgood. multiple tanks rage right out on the main shakedown. and to get into the stage they are more concerned about umbrellas and what not then anything else. some people complained about the vibes at ilcc. and ya the car checks were the worst ive seen. but once you were in its pretty free. you could take your cooler to the stage if ya wanted. at echo project they let us in with mixed drinks everytime we walked in and i dint feel the need to hide stuff. a quick glance in the bag and your through. roo has involved being patted down and pockets emptied the past 2 years. and as far as security at smaller fests its not anything like roo. what fests have you been to where roo type security is the norm?
Well I went Big Summer Classic at Zoe last year, and Zoe which if anyone has ever been there other than BSC knows, is the most wide open festival site in existence. But they had a lot of people and a comparable security staff to Bonnaroo. They are not that bad, if you have your poop together, and don't look quacked up you can get away with almost anything. In 06 and 07 they clamped down a little, but mainly in a way to ensure the safety of everyone there i.e. no glass we have barefoot hippies, and pardon but we don't think we can actually let you bring a ten pound bag of NO NO Word! in with you. Glowsticks sure, but I had one or two for personal use every night and no one ever said a word to me, apparently 14 in a backpack raised some eyebrows. I think I can live without having glowsticks thrown at me in the middle of a Disco Biscuits glowstick war Honestly keeping the tanks off Shakedown is a good thing, and though we all know there are no NO NO Words!! at Bonnaroo, it is not like I ever hear of anyone ever having a bad time either. All in all I have very little complaints about the security at 'roo. I mean what do you want to do that you are having trouble doing at bonnaroo that makes you think security is that bad there.
This is an incredibly confusing post, but I'll give you a pass because it's 1:10 AM and you may be as drunk as I am.
However, points of order:
*Keeping the tanks off shakedown is NOT a good thing.
*Nobody wants to bring a ten pound bag of anything but water into Centeroo.
*Glow bracelets don't hurt. Glowsticks thrown really hard by frat guys do.
*We had one glowstick - maybe two - last year, and they took them from us. Then I looked in the garbage can and there were hundreds in it.
Post by stallion pt. 2 on May 7, 2008 0:10:41 GMT -5
^^^^^^ exactly. Bottom line...If you're smart, paying attention and not doing anything outrageous or large-scale, you can get away with it at roo no problem. Just don't be a lazy hippie and expect Security to be "cool" with you breaking posted rules in front of their faces.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
Like Stallion said, it's mostly about being careful.
But, like, where do you think the No2 tanks go? If you keep them off Shakedown they're just going to disperse further into the campgrounds, where innocent people may be hanging out, not trying to be around all the late-night debauchery of Shakedown Street. So if you keep them all around Shakedown, people can avoid that shady (and let me tell you, it is VERY shady) scene, and those that want to be a part of it can be, without having to walk their feet off to be there.
Post by sparklybecca on May 7, 2008 0:28:38 GMT -5
camping right next to a tank is aaaaaaaalways fun (never happened to me at roo but at other fests - yes - the sound is annoying as hell when u wanna sleep for a few hours)
Like Stallion said, it's mostly about being careful.
But, like, where do you think the No2 tanks go? If you keep them off Shakedown they're just going to disperse further into the campgrounds, where innocent people may be hanging out, not trying to be around all the late-night debauchery of Shakedown Street. So if you keep them all around Shakedown, people can avoid that shady (and let me tell you, it is VERY shady) scene, and those that want to be a part of it can be, without having to walk their feet off to be there.
At least as drunk but like we have all said just be careful and moderate and you should not have a problem doing anything you care to. I am not sure I buy the tanks argument, but yeah if you can only buy it on shakedown it will only be sold on shakedown I suppose. Anyway this was a lot less long winded than last time Galactic and Chali 2na must have sobered me a bit.
Like Stallion said, it's mostly about being careful.
But, like, where do you think the No2 tanks go? If you keep them off Shakedown they're just going to disperse further into the campgrounds, where innocent people may be hanging out, not trying to be around all the late-night debauchery of Shakedown Street. So if you keep them all around Shakedown, people can avoid that shady (and let me tell you, it is VERY shady) scene, and those that want to be a part of it can be, without having to walk their feet off to be there.
At least as drunk but like we have all said just be careful and moderate and you should not have a problem doing anything you care to. I am not sure I buy the tanks argument, but yeah if you can only buy it on shakedown it will only be sold on shakedown I suppose. Anyway this was a lot less long winded than last time Galactic and Chali 2na must have sobered me a bit.
William Burroughs broke it down in Junky, man. The user never goes anywhere, it's just the supplier that changes. If the supplier is removed, another will quickly take his place, because the users demand it. Running the nitrous vendors off from a particular area (theoretically, since this never goes on at Bonnaroo) just ensures that they'll move to another area. I don't know if you've ever talked to the nitrous guys (at maybe a Panic festival or something), but they are not interested in not getting money. They are, however, interested in selling their nitrous, and they don't care who they sell it to...they just want money to get back home wherever it is they came from (Jersey or Boston or whatever). They can get that money on Shakedown, and nobody gets hurt.
Like Stallion said, it's mostly about being careful.
But, like, where do you think the No2 tanks go? If you keep them off Shakedown they're just going to disperse further into the campgrounds, where innocent people may be hanging out, not trying to be around all the late-night debauchery of Shakedown Street. So if you keep them all around Shakedown, people can avoid that shady (and let me tell you, it is VERY shady) scene, and those that want to be a part of it can be, without having to walk their feet off to be there.
i agree... its much better to have it on shakedown. at all good everyone sits down on shakedown and does their thing. after moe. last year there were hundereds of people all in one spot raging away. soooo much better then having the nitrous mafia dirt bags out in the campgrounds hiding frozen tanks under your tent while your out. and under your car. and then having security come and insist to search your car and tent because there are 4000 balloons everywhere on the ground. thats how it was for us at roo last year.. we were camped on what became known as nirous alley. and all of those things happend to us. i asked the dudes nicely twice to not rage tanks out of our site everytime we left. the third time i was not so nice and they stayed on the other side of the road after that.
not to mention we came back countless times to have a half dozen strangers sitting under our shade tent huffin balloons.... and put your coolers in the car too if there are tanks raging around your site.
its much better to have it on shakedown? is nitrous really that bad?? them cracking down it is what makes it so shady. trust me the nitrous mafia is sketchy. thousands of dollars, knifes, guns, etc... if it was tolerated on shakedown atleast all that would be confined and i think it would reduce the shady side of it a bit.