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The fact is that there are laws governing even festivals and if the promoters don't make a gesture to look like they're trying to enforce them, it could draw the attention of much stricter authorities than the yellow shirt guys. (FYI, you can't legally purchase exotic tobacco smoking implements where I live.)
That's right. The longer that stuff is out in the wide open - the sooner it becomes an easy target for some massive crackdowns by law enforcement. I don't want to see something happen like at Wakarusa a couple years ago - so I'll gladly do some searching around if need be. It may take an extra few minutes to find what you're looking for - but it's gonna lead to a safer attendee environment in the long term.
Seriously, though, security has become tighter as the festival has become bigger and land ownership has changed. That said, we have never lacked for the tools we needed to have a good time whether we bring them in or buy them there.
The fact is that there are laws governing even festivals and if the promoters don't make a gesture to look like they're trying to enforce them, it could draw the attention of much stricter authorities than the yellow shirt guys. (FYI, you can't legally purchase exotic tobacco smoking implements where I live.)
Exactly!!!! Thank You. Karma +1
and part of that gesture is making sure the festival's official vending strip doesn't look like a giant outdoor head shop.
Agreed. And before you go insulting "frat boys"...I know plenty of frat boys who would NOT hassle you at the gates...I hate how everybody here is always like "frat guy = asshole"...if you'd branch out and get to know people, you might find out that that stereotype is NOT true.
My boyfriend's fraternity got an offer to work security at Bonnaroo. If they do it, it will be to raise money for their organization so that they new members don't have to pay hefty fees when they get in. They do this so that everyone will have the opportunity to join a fraternity if they want. That doesn't sound like an asshole thing to me. Plus, if they don't like 'hippies' or whatever, they won't go.
Bonnaroo has to follow the law...they own the farm. It doesn't mean they've sold out. If you want a giant drug lovefest then go somewhere else...bonnaroo is not about drugs (there aren't any at bonnaroo anyway) but it's about the music. I have been to PLENTY of places where the security is way stricter. Get over yourself and deal with it. If you don't like it, take your money somewhere else. More dancing room for me, anyway.
well glass pipes arent illegal in coffee county. they werent an issue at roo until last year. we arent talking about pipes in broward county. there is no new 2007 legal or safety issue that caused this. and if shakedown isnt an outdoor headshop then WTF is it??? i dont go there to buy tupperware, appliances, and ambercrombie. and how do we go from "ya just had to walk a bit. its right there in front of you and roo is awesome" to "its an unsafe, illegal, outdoor headshop that attracts the pigs" i got news for you. the pigs didnt come to roo in 06 and say oh my god theres pipes here we better get on it. the pigs know and have known about the festie scene for decades and pipes has zero to do with it. i swear superfly could have explosive diarrhea at the front gate of roo and some of you would stop to comment on the beauty of their art and how much it smells like roses.
and as for the frats... come on now. are we still doing the "he said it on an internet board so it must apply to all people all the time" thing. seriously???? stereotypes usually have some basis in reality. if your in a frat or sorority then you should realize that more then anyone. there are stereotypical frat boys and sorority chicks on every campus in america. and lets face it. when a security company comes to town looking for summer workers frats and sororities are the easiest way to find the employees. and in my mind at least, i picture the stereotypical Summers breeze bags to be the ones that jump up and say "metallica and kanye!! hell ya! busting hippies hell ya!!! etc..." are all frat boys that way? no. are some of them that way? there is no safer bet in the world. so if your not a frat boy asshat busting people in line at roo then i probably wasnt refering to you. i know dirty patched out long hair hippies that dont even smoke pot. they dont throw a fit everytime someone says dirty longhaired patched out hippies are using no nos at fests.
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Maybe I'll throw myself to the dogs, but my back's not to the wall Maybe I'll lay some bricks for the man, but the days just aren't that long So if I settle back and chill will I see far enough to feel the angel's dream? I thought it was the Story of the World!
well glass pipes arent illegal in coffee county. they werent an issue at roo until last year. we arent talking about pipes in broward county. there is no new 2007 legal or safety issue that caused this.
Yes, there was. They bought the farm. we've been over this, or do you even read anybody's posts (including your own).
and if shakedown isnt an outdoor headshop then WTF is it???
A place for official vendors to sell wares approved by Superfly. If you don't like that, take a walk off the beaten path and you'll have no trouble finding what your looking for. We all know the glass vendors were still there. We had dozons w/in sight of out camp.
i got news for you. the pigs didnt come to roo in 06 and say oh my god theres pipes here we better get on it. the pigs know and have known about the festie scene for decades and pipes has zero to do with it.
Once again, things change when you own property. Allowing official vendors to sell druqk paraphenalia would be tantamout to encouraging illegal activity, and Superfly could lose their events permit. I'm sure local authorities put increased pressure on them to make these changes under threat of shutting them down. and it doesn't matter if glass is technically not illegal in Coffe Co. Those laws are vague at best, and at times even here in Tucson (a stoner's paradise) cops have shut down head shops. Remember Tommy Chong getting busted? It's not worth the risk just to appease you.
i swear superfly could have explosive diarrhea at the front gate of roo and some of you would stop to comment on the beauty of their art and how much it smells like roses.
I never said the change was an improvement. But I think it was necessary to preserve the fest and you are the only person I know who has this big a problem with it. I swear, 79,999 people could be having a great time on that farm, getting loaded and dancing to String Cheese and you would be walking around b!tching about how it's not like it used to be. Why is it so hard to believe people had a great time, didn't get hassled by security or the pigs, got high and saw great music last year? because I sure did.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
heres me at roo last year getting loaded and dancing to String Cheese and trust me im not beat red and soaked in sweat from walking around b!tching about how it's not like it used to be.
i look like im pretty upset about it all dont i???
Post by Darth Boo Boo Kitty @#*& on May 9, 2008 4:37:13 GMT -5
Has anyone considered that another reason Official Shakedown may have changed b/c of the astronomical prices vendors have to pay for space, and not b/c of security?
I read through the whole thing and I agree - around and around and around..........
NO YOU GUYS AREN'T LISTENING! FRAT BOYS AND KANYE WEST ARE CHANGING BONNAROO... GODAMNIT! LISTEN TO ME........ AHHHHHHHHHHH! MAYBE I SHOULD YELL LOUDER! [glow=red,20,300]AHHHHHHHHHHH! YER ALL WRONG, YOU TOTAL NOOBZ! PWN'D!!!!!!!!!![/glow]
I read through the whole thing and I agree - around and around and around..........
NO YOU GUYS AREN'T LISTENING! FRAT BOYS AND KANYE WEST ARE CHANGING BONNAROO... GODAMNIT! LISTEN TO ME........ AHHHHHHHHHHH! MAYBE I SHOULD YELL LOUDER! [glow=red,20,300]AHHHHHHHHHHH! YER ALL WRONG, YOU TOTAL NOOBZ! PWN'D!!!!!!!!!![/glow]