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I saw the trailer (or whatever it was) with the "Obamaroo" logo on it, but never saw any official presence or anything, not even flyers or whatnot. Anyone get the deal on what they (we ) were doing there? All I get when I Google it is some blog article that's about 3 sentences long and ambiguous.
Post by mphsvoodoo on Jun 21, 2008 11:02:23 GMT -5
I don't know, I was wondering that also...I was really surprised at the lack of political presence at the park...I figured they would be all over the place. They really missed out on an opportunity, however, for the most part, they probably would have been preaching to the choir, so to speak.
Post by tentseasurfer on Jun 21, 2008 13:23:45 GMT -5
I just heard today that Obama is going to be signing the Bush backed bill to give telecommunications companies complete immunity from legal actions while eavesdropping on the American people for Big Brother.
I just heard today that Obama is going to be signing the Bush backed bill to give telecommunications companies complete immunity from legal actions while eavesdropping on the American people for Big Brother.
more of the same.
The lesser of 2 evils is still evil.
yeah.. and he changed his stance on the iraq exit strategy.. in the primaries he and hilldog were all for the immediate withdrawal... now hes not saying that at all. i know a vote for mccain is a vote for more bush, but i didnt think obama would be too =(
I, for one, was pretty disappointed about the lack of political speech by the artists. My dad and I both noted that not one artist we saw said anything until Pearl Jam. I don't think you should tell people who to vote for, but I think it's extremely important to make people aware, as so many people don't seem to be.
To quote Eddie Vedder, "I get angry sometimes because more people aren't angry".
You just can't be apathetic right now. It's one of the biggest injustices you can commit
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I just heard today that Obama is going to be signing the Bush backed bill to give telecommunications companies complete immunity from legal actions while eavesdropping on the American people for Big Brother.
more of the same.
The lesser of 2 evils is still evil.
This article seems to contradict what you're saying.
"Obama: I'll Fight To Strip Telecom Immunity From FISA"
I, for one, was pretty disappointed about the lack of political speech by the artists. My dad and I both noted that not one artist we saw said anything until Pearl Jam. I don't think you should tell people who to vote for, but I think it's extremely important to make people aware, as so many people don't seem to be.
To quote Eddie Vedder, "I get angry sometimes because more people aren't angry".
You just can't be apathetic right now. It's one of the biggest injustices you can commit
Agreed. I don't understand why people get so upset when big artists and musicians give political speeches.
"Play some f*ckin music!" comes to mind, which was yelled at PJ multiple times. Maybe people just feel so bad about their own political involvement that they can't stand to hear it from someone else?
In my opinion, I think that if you are in a position of power (musically, artistically, politically, etc) then you should use that position to make people more aware of what's going on in the world. What better time to do that than with an audience of 65,000 people?
I, for one, was pretty disappointed about the lack of political speech by the artists. My dad and I both noted that not one artist we saw said anything until Pearl Jam. I don't think you should tell people who to vote for, but I think it's extremely important to make people aware, as so many people don't seem to be.
To quote Eddie Vedder, "I get angry sometimes because more people aren't angry".
You just can't be apathetic right now. It's one of the biggest injustices you can commit
Agreed. I don't understand why people get so upset when big artists and musicians give political speeches.
"Play some f*ckin music!" comes to mind, which was yelled at PJ multiple times. Maybe people just feel so bad about their own political involvement that they can't stand to hear it from someone else?
In my opinion, I think that if you are in a position of power (musically, artistically, politically, etc) then you should use that position to make people more aware of what's going on in the world. What better time to do that than with an audience of 65,000 people?
Agreed, Bonnaroo is about having fun, but I'd be dissappointed if people like Vedder and Wayne Coyne didn't use their opportunity to try to motivate people to go to the trouble of trying to correct some of the fuckedupshit that is still going on in the world, no matter how many would rather just ignore it.
Post by jesmith5508 on Jun 22, 2008 12:15:33 GMT -5
i heard political comments from abigail washburn (something along the lines of... vote, and if you're so inclined, vote for obama) and some of sam bush's lyrics during bluegrass all-stars were (the only good bush is me? something like that?)
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Post by johncagebubblegum on Jun 22, 2008 12:30:00 GMT -5
yeah, big props to broken social scene for taking a few minutes out of their set to remind us to put down the bong and vote for obama (in sing-a-long format!).
some people might be annoyed that they did that instead of playing an actual song from one of their albums, but fuck it. this election is too important.
solomon burke also gave a shout-out to obama (and hillary, actually) and the general idea of a new direction for the u.s.
maybe it was my state of mind, but i dont remember PJ going on about the elections. if anything, he seemed to be almost apologetic about it intead of just smashing a hammer of opinion on us.
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 22, 2008 14:42:54 GMT -5
I officially wanna smack any asshat that yells "play some f*cking music" to any artist at a festival or any other live performance, rather. You buy the albums to hear music. You go to the shows so that they can try to improve your life the best that they can.
I officially wanna smack any asshat that yells "play some f*cking music" to any artist at a festival or any other live performance, rather. You buy the albums to hear music. You go to the shows so that they can try to improve your life the best that they can.
Exactly and I'd love to be there to witness the asshat smacking.
This is the kind of thing that is wrong with America. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to even begin to compare the two. Much less make a corny rhyme about it.
You can compare Bush, Obama, Hillary, McCain, Osama, Ahmadinejad, Jintao, Mugabe, etc...
THEY ARE ALL POLITICIANS.
I'm not trying to get in an e-battle buddy, I just want you to truely open your view on politics and don't just jump on whatever is the "anti-current" movement.
i personally think that Vedder put it perfectly with what he said. i think he's right how most people in the world don't try and make a difference in what happens, then turn around and complain about the problems in the world. i think if you want to complain about what's going on in the world around us, you have to at least do something, even if that something is as "small" as voting. i think a lot of people don't realize what a power that is, and in turn think that it doesn't matter if they don't vote
Post by tentseasurfer on Jun 22, 2008 22:52:32 GMT -5
I personally voted for Ron Paul. His views on limited government, intelligent decriminalization ideas,and his intelligent questioning of the Fed earn my respect. That being said I realize that no matter how much a Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich make waves in the political arena...this system is run and operated by puppetmasters. You either dance their dance, or the media slays you or buries you. You play the game and you get proper news coverage...you get fair time during debates(or invited to them for that matter!!) you get the cover of Newsweek or People. You question the Fed or the current administration you get the media blackout. So don't misunderstand my frustration and disappointment at the game of politics for apathy. I liken it to trying to run a good program on a bad computer...no matter how many times you try to load it...it won't work. I'm happy for the Obama supporters, I wish I could accept his vanilla change and earnest speeches for a real revolution....but I don't see it or feel it, wish I did.
Post by flymordecai on Jun 24, 2008 12:15:19 GMT -5
Seriously, Ron Paul. I put a RP yard sign under our windshield, in addition to the Bonnaroooo yells there would be a few "Ron Pauuuul!" Hearing people talk about Obama and how he's going to change things makes me so sad. Nonetheless I still had a blast during that BSS song, the best part being "even if I totally don't know what he stands for, but he talks god damn well."
Post by tentseasurfer on Jun 24, 2008 15:46:41 GMT -5
I can't vote for a candidate who backs the Patriot Act, has serious ties to the Council on Foreign Relations and has Zbigniew Brzezinski as one of his chief advisers(google him if you've never heard the name). That is change towards a globalist agenda...change I don't want. Charles Manson and Hitler were both charismatic speakers too. Not that I'm comparing Obama to either of these psychos, just bringing up the fact that being a charismatic and effective speaker doesn't automatically make your agenda altruistic.