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In the past years I remember being worned that I should not buy tickets from scalpers going in to Bonnaroo (or any other place for that matter) on account of the tickets being counterfeit. Has anyone ever gotten ripped off with counterfeit tickets or know of anyone who has, or is that just Superfly and whoever else "encouraging" you to buy directly through them?
i wouldnt buy them off of ebay. but if your walking the entrance line at roo looking for a ticket youll be fine. im sure you will see pics of the ticket before you go. they arent easy to duplicate. they are quite fancy.
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It might be easy to rip off someone whose never seen a ticket before.....I remember getting my first ticket and being amazed at the overall design of the ticket. Poopzilla is right even though those seem like little things to duplicate them would take quite awhile. yeah I wouldnt go ebay but I know several people who wait until they get to Manchester and get their tickets.
ya and its all holographic. i guess ill defer to you though. i know nothing about making fake tickets. but it looks like it would be much harder then a typica ticket. i still think your completley safe walking the line to find a ticket. lots of people cant make it at the last minute and their friends just want to unload it for them for what they can get before they are inside. a sign helps alot. and ive had friends do it twice and it didnt take long and they got the tickets for 50 less then i paid for mine.
IN 2005 my friend bought 2 tickets off ebay. They looked as real as mine did (got mine the "right" way), but they would't scan on the way in. I convinced the lady to tear the stub to let us in. Later we discovered there were some minor differences, and one major difference in how it was perfed where she tore it off. I'm convinced they were fake. Really Really good fakes though.
ya ebay is where they will operate. i doubt there will be any scalper type people standing anywhere at roo with fake tickets. as a precaution i wouldnt get them from any shady looking people in walmarts parking lot or anything. just walk the line with a sign and it shouldnt take too long.
Last Edit: Mar 13, 2007 10:34:54 GMT -5 by Dude - Back to Top
Making 'Roo tickets wouldn't too -too- hard, just a lot of material needed to get started. After a few rounds of testing, you could have a process nailed.
The hardest thing would be finding the right mix percentage for ink / flakes on any iridescent / holographic areas.
This coming from a professional graphic designer / webmaster who has tons of print experience
You also have to figure that you dont see what the tickets look like until right before the event. Someone has to have alot of time on their hands to perfect a fake ticket in that amount of time. Im not disagreeing it's not doable
Post by chicagorooer on Mar 13, 2007 13:02:11 GMT -5
dudewhersmyinforoo said:
ya ebay is where they will operate. i doubt there will be any scalper type people standing anywhere at roo with fake tickets. as a precaution i wouldnt get them from any shady looking people in walmarts parking lot or anything. just walk the line with a sign and it shouldnt take too long.
Great advise DUDE!!!. Plenty of people selling tickets on the way in.....no worries
Post by thefussydutchman on Mar 13, 2007 14:40:27 GMT -5
dudewhersmyinforoo said:
ya ebay is where they will operate. i doubt there will be any scalper type people standing anywhere at roo with fake tickets. as a precaution i wouldnt get them from any shady looking people in walmarts parking lot or anything. just walk the line with a sign and it shouldnt take too long.
In 2005 on the way in 3 of my friends bought tickets from guys on the way in and the tickets were BLACK instead of the red they were that year otherwise they looked exactly alike. I told my buddies they just got ripped. The people working the gates told them it was a fake but they let them in anyway. I don't think they were about to turn away people who just payed $150 a ticket and tell them sorry you can't get in and now you gotta drive 600 miles back home.
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You're perfectly fine buying a ticket on eBay as long as you are buying from a reputable member. Don't buy from some seller who came out of the woodwork in the recent past, or is pimping a bunch of Bonnaroo related stuff trying to cash in. First and foremost though -- just look at their feedback. If their feedback is tainted, don't buy -- this bit of advice becomes even more important when they're a new member.
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Post by roolacksreality on Mar 13, 2007 15:50:18 GMT -5
killface said:
I have to disagree.
They are very, very easy to duplicate. As far as looks go. Its oversized which makes it much easier.
Yup. If you have a way to get to an industrial printer with a high gloss finish it isn't hard to make that ticket. I can't really recall there being a barcode on the ticket either. On the other hand, if they sell out you could just make your own. But thats bad karma and I already bought my ticket.
one way to avoid getting ripped off on ebay (if it's the best of your options) is to make sure you purchase from people that dont have a lot of the same auction, but rather a listing that is one of a kind in your search results.
Post by happytrails on Mar 13, 2007 20:33:50 GMT -5
roolacksreality said:
killface said:
I have to disagree.
They are very, very easy to duplicate. As far as looks go. Its oversized which makes it much easier.
Yup. If you have a way to get to an industrial printer with a high gloss finish it isn't hard to make that ticket. I can't really recall there being a barcode on the ticket either. On the other hand, if they sell out you could just make your own. But thats bad karma and I already bought my ticket.
I remember watching some friends of mine hand paint tickets to see the Dead play at Duke U sometime around 1980 - it was truly impressive AND it worked.
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Post by AngrySunday on Mar 13, 2007 21:12:13 GMT -5
I bought my tickets for '04 & '06 off of eBay a couple days before the festival for about $150. You have to look for auctions in your area and make it a cash transaction face-to-face so that if the tickets don't look on the level then it's no deal. Not this year though...VIP...yeah baby!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by imsquare17 on Mar 14, 2007 14:10:34 GMT -5
They've got holographic insets now right? (I'd check my ticket from last year but it's at home, I'm at college) So check any scalped ticket for that, a printer won't be able to reproduce that, no matter how high gloss it is! So if it's got the holograph it's more likely real, though a deft crook could probably find some sort of material to put in it's place. It'd be very smart to compare the scalper's ticket to a ticket that you know is real, one that a friend or companion ordered from the site, side by side. If that's not an option give it a good inspection:
Is the printing clear and clean? Is it glossy? Does it have this year's festival dates on it? (sounds dumb but you don't want to buy last year's ticket!) Is it the right thickness? Thicker than a greeting card but thinner than the wall of a cereal box? Is the stub still attached by the perforated line? (There will always be a stub in case of scanner failure, if there's no perforated line, it's fake)
If the answer is "no" to any of these, don't buy it. The safest thing is to buy from the site, but sadly that's not always an option. Another thing that may be helpful is to ask the seller how they ended up with an extra ticket to sell. They might just blow their story and their deal, and ask questions about their story, as them something that they wouldn't have thought to rehearse if they're lying. "Oh man, you're brother couldn't make it at the last minute? How could he stand missing these bands? What kind of music does he listen to?"
Anyways, these are my suggestions, I'm not an expert or anything, just a cynic. Follow them at your own risk!
Well, last year I won tickets from the design contest and they were a slightly different coloring. The gate people hadn't seen one of them before and questioned it but I told them I won the tickets on teh contest and they let me in. I had to sell one ticket that I bought previously (other ticket sold to a co-worker) and used CraigsList so I could do a face-to-face transaction.
And I didn't think they looked too hard for someone willing to do it. Not that I have the time or interest in it though. And it looked like it was UV coated, not just gloss paper.
Post by howyafeelin on May 18, 2007 17:33:11 GMT -5
yeah UV coating / embossing / holographic image not that hard. Most printers would frown on bootlegging something like that and only a big operation has the capabilities to do some of those processes. So I would say mostly legit sellers just be wary of the rat.
Post by almostcertain on May 19, 2007 7:28:19 GMT -5
so i got my tickets through e-bay, through a reputable seller (long history of selling event tickets, 0 negative feedback). im hoping they aren't counterfeit now....
Post by bellesunflwr on May 22, 2007 9:34:42 GMT -5
So . . . what are the odds of the event selling out? I'd like to buy mine from the roo site, but have to wait until payday (UGH!) I'm getting nervous. . . .