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why is it that some of you can't grasp that not EVERYONE is going to love the same music you do? i flat out said i wasn't hating, and that i didn't think he wasn't talented. i just don't get into his music. i think it's cheesy and it's not my thing. i'm glad you enjoyed yourself, but you can cut out that whole condescending tone next time you feel like responding to me.
You said Bruce reminded you of your dad pretending to be a rock star, I merely pointed out that Bruce is not trying to be anything, he just is one of the best rock stars on the planet. You made a ridiculous claim, and I merely pointed out that Bruce is probably better at music than your dad. However I will take this back if your dad happens to be someone like David Byrne. Is your dad David Bryne?
Post by GratefulHippie on Jun 17, 2009 17:16:27 GMT -5
i also said i'm not hating or saying he's not talented. but keep pulling from it what you would like. god forbid someone have a different opinion than you, right?
i also said i'm not hating or saying he's not talented. but keep pulling from it what you would like. god forbid someone have a different opinion than you, right?
I think you should take your own advice. Just by saying things like "not hating" "I'm not saying he's not talented" doesn't mean you get a free pass. If someone disagrees with you so be it.
Post by GratefulHippie on Jun 17, 2009 17:30:08 GMT -5
lol...i don't give a crap that you like him and i don't. i'm not the one being a condescending a-hole about it. i said my peace, and you treated me like a dumbass for not sharing your opinion.
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 17, 2009 17:44:02 GMT -5
Well, it's a good thing I didn't think of the pops this weekend at all then. I don't even wanna know what the consequences of violating that golden rule is.
Looking back on it all, Friday was def better for me. The song selection and the this>this>this>that>everything else just made my head spin. My only complaint was that it felt so short. Wish they would have done a four song encore or something.
Sunday was alot of fun, but I'd prefer the 1st set to the second. I'm enjoying the more focused jamming with this Phish 3.0. It's good stuff. Bruce, to close out the 1st set was perfect, IMHO. 2nd set seemed a little off and I got bored with some of the jams. Overall though it was an epic 2 shows.
Both shows were great but I proffered Sunday night because I thought it had a much better flow then Friday night did. Friday night they were making up the setlist as they went along, Sunday night it didnt look like they were, probably because of the Bruce collab. As a result I thought the first set especially flowed together perfectly, not one song was out of place and Trey seemed so much more into it on Sunday as did the whole crowd for some reason. Friday had a whole bunch of weird song choices, Alaska felt out of place as did Wading in the Velvet Sea. Both shows were great but I have to give the edge to Sunday.
I agree with the forced feel og Fri. and in fact said it to several people the next day. I was mostly greeted with looks of " I can't believe you would say that" and "blasphomy" but nonetheless I still feel that way...I very much enjoyed the set and danced my fool head off and there were indeed some epic funk jams in there but the flow was lacking.
I don't care what you say about me, just spell my name right---P.T. Barnum "As I was walking up the stairs I met a man who wasn't there He wasn't there again today I wish to God he'd go away."
strumntheguitar
Bleary-Eyed Bonnawook Sir Strum, Master of Rum
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 17, 2009 22:42:26 GMT -5
Did anybody else think that the sound was slightly off on the vocals Friday night? I didn't notice it at all on Sunday, but on Friday night I remember thinking that the vocals were just a tad bit off... almost as if maybe one person's mic was turned up higher or lower than normal and it threw off the sound ever so slightly.
obviously you and the people around you have no idea what good music and appreciation of music is. Now I don't mean to say that these shows were the best or even all that incredible and they certainly were not necessarily "one for the history books"or earth shattering in any way. On the other hand there were some incredible moments but I digress.... First of all Mustang Sally like you say was fine but the next song Bruce doing an obscure one of his songs with Phish as his backing band was pretty enlightening for me. I mean, shit, did you see the look on Trey's face while he was playing he was in heaven. I am not saying I love the song (didn't know it at the time) but I was turned on by how happy Trey was to be playing with one of his big influences. If, so called, phans can't appreciate that then all the things that are said about elitist fans are true. My personal opinion is that these were probably younger fans who just don't get what music is all about. And lastly, the third song, Glory Days...I hate the song and always have and think it was incredibly lame for them to do it AGAIN with all the other songs they could have done covers of or even just a better one of Bruce's songs. What about a Blinded by the light? Now that could have been cool but to cheese out with Glory days AGAIN was more than weak yeah sure it was made better by Trey taking over the guitar work but seriously.....overall......lame
It's funny you said the 2nd song was a Bruce song, because the whole time it was being played I was thinking how "Bruce-y" it felt. I know it was a dream come true for Trey, and maybe even for the rest of the band too. But just because it was a nostalgic moment for them all doesn't mean it has to be good music. You just said yourself the 3rd song they played together sucked. Apparently you don't know good music either then? Or do I just get that award for thinking Bobby Jean sucked?
No I was expressing my hatred for the cheesy 80's anthem of Glory days and the fact that the song is not only tired but that Bruce just did the fucking song the night before...I mean come on rip out something else..anything else...just seemed like the ultimate in cheesyness to me. The reason I called you out on your statement was you were saying that Bruce just about destroyed Phish's set which I do not think was the case at all as my statement says ...even the Glory Days did not ruin the set for me. I just did not care for it.
I don't care what you say about me, just spell my name right---P.T. Barnum "As I was walking up the stairs I met a man who wasn't there He wasn't there again today I wish to God he'd go away."
strumntheguitar
Bleary-Eyed Bonnawook Sir Strum, Master of Rum
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 17, 2009 23:10:02 GMT -5
^^^Awww man, and I was hoping that you could join me in the club of the uninformed when it comes to good music. I'll have to send your invite to someone else, I guess.
All I meant from my comment of Bruce almost ruining the show was that up until that point in the show the 1st set was an absolute monster and I thought we were in for one of the most energizing and downright mindblowing shows of the weekend, perhaps even of the entire Phish tour. You could feel it in the crowd. Once they started playing Bruce songs, that energy was gone and it was noticeable in the surrounding area from where I was. Whether that's because I don't know good music or not, it did lessen my thoughts on the overall show. Hence, for me he almost ruined it. I realize there are people who thought differently but I'm definitely not the only one either. Labeling me as someone who doesn't know good music just because I thought something which you appreciated was absolute crap doesn't really mean anything except that our tastes vary a bit.
^^^Awww man, and I was hoping that you could join me in the club of the uninformed when it comes to good music. I'll have to send your invite to someone else, I guess.
All I meant from my comment of Bruce almost ruining the show was that up until that point in the show the 1st set was an absolute monster and I thought we were in for one of the most energizing and downright mindblowing shows of the weekend, perhaps even of the entire Phish tour. You could feel it in the crowd. Once they started playing Bruce songs, that energy was gone and it was noticeable in the surrounding area from where I was. Whether that's because I don't know good music or not, it did lessen my thoughts on the overall show. Hence, for me he almost ruined it. I realize there are people who thought differently but I'm definitely not the only one either. Labeling me as someone who doesn't know good music just because I thought something which you appreciated was absolute crap doesn't really mean anything except that our tastes vary a bit.
I normally wouldn't even touch arguments like this, but I feel like I have to make some comment here. First off let me say that most of the comments being directed at you Strum and others on here who did not like Bruce joining Phish etc have been really condesending/negative/shitty whatever. I don't know you and I am sure you are a good guy so who am I to say what you do or don't know? I will say this though, for some reason reading your first post about Bruce almost 'murdering' the show just really irked me. I can totally see where you all are coming from though. I felt that during Bobbie Jean the energy of the set was lowered and that it was odd that they played Glory Days when it was played the night before. But i just felt like there was so much ripping on Bruce this weekend by all these 'hippies' that it was about to drive me crazy. It's just the blind hatred for something/someone and the lack of respect for artists. Now don't get me wrong I am not talking about you here, I am commenting on the general vibe from many hundreds or thousands of people at roo. Maybe these comments just reminded me of it. Anyway i am rambling, but i guess my point is that even though it took some energy away or whatever i felt like it was a really cool moment in phish and roo history. listening to the auds and watching the vids again just got me really pumped up. Mustang Sally was friggin awesome! I feel like this was an extension of the first set and that antelope was the closer..this was like a little mini-set before the break. Thinking that Bruce ruined it almost makes it seem like he just sort of ran out there and started playing uninvited or something. If it wasn't your bag and you didn't like it then I'd be more inclined to say that Trey almost ruined it by asking him to play or by the timing/song choice. These shows aren't just for us but its for the band too. I seriously doubt there are sitting around thinking 'damn it sucks we really disappointed everyone by killing the energy of set 1 jamming with one of our idols.' anyway, i really hope i have not been a jerk here or offended ya strum (or others). I really meant this all with good intentions and want to just offer my perspective since these comments really seem to hit me hard.
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 18, 2009 0:29:38 GMT -5
^^^I totally get what you're saying man, and my use of the word "murdering" was definitely way too harsh, but what can I say... I love to throw comments like that out every now and then just to get some people riled up. No doubt in my mind that this was probably one of Trey's happiest moments of his life, jamming with a childhood idol of his. It was a nostalgic moment for the band and several people in the audience. Hell, I was at the show with Mojo here who was in high heaven at this point in the show and I even commented to him in the middle of Mustang Sally how he must be at an all time high witnessing what was going on in front of him. It just wasn't my thing. I'm glad that you can acknowledge that this doesn't really mean I don't know jack about music. I got all the respect in the world for Bruce and what he's brought to the music biz, I just prefer not to hear him... especially when I'm in the mindset of seeing Phish. But hey, like you said Mustang Sally was pretty awesome and if they had stuck to non-Bruce songs with him on stage I probably would have had a completely different opinion of his presence on stage.
Post by cheeky resurrection on Jun 18, 2009 2:13:08 GMT -5
Friday was awesome. The EARLY Sunday morning jam session no one was allowed in the What Stage area for- was awesome. Sunday night was awesome... I wish Bruce would have just done Mustang Sally (if that) and gone on his way. Overall... it was incredible, as it was my first Phish show... But other than that fact... I was somewhat disappointed :-\ As I said, incredible, nonetheless. Esp Friday because we were almost to the rail (Free totally took me off my feet and to a total other level).
Post by pimpmcgeorge on Jun 18, 2009 7:51:31 GMT -5
After hauling ass to the front after the Beasties to get a good spot for Phriday night's set, I was grooving hard to the first couple of songs (including what I thought was a particularly awesome Divided Sky). For some reason I started to feel groggy and trekked back to the top of the hill and passed out somewhere by the food stands. I remember people stepping over me and taking pictures, and I had no idea why me lying down was such a big deal. Anyhoo, all day Saturday, I was extra pissed off that I'd basically missed that previous night's set and I was in the doldrums all day, until TMV picked me up and gave me the kick in the pants I needed. That Sunday night Phish show was all I needed to feel completely awesome again and everyone around me, including you Boob Girl, wherever you are, was having the time of their lives. Next order of business: Hartford tickets.
6/18: Phish in Hartford 6/25: Phish in Camden 7/2-7/4: Nateva 7/17: God Street Wine at Irving Plaza 7/23-7/25: String Cheese at Red Rocks!! 8/17-8/18: Phish at Jones Beach 9/3: Rush at PNC
This Bonnaroo lineup is in dire need of some Rush.
Ive been listening to the Friday show everyday at work since I got back. I love it. I thought the vocals were crisp where I was sitting. The Divided Sky vocal FLOORED me. Kill Devil falls was absolutely incredible, we got a "PLAY IT LEO!!!!", 2001 was mega funky and the YEM>Wilson>YEM sandwich made me smile ear to ear. I also dig the Sunday show. I guess its all on how you feel about Bruce. Ive never like the song Mustang Sally (GASP!) but Glory Days was one of my fav songs when I was a kid and to see Bruce come play it with a band Ive down with for over half my life was awesome to me. Rock and Roll was great and I havent seen it since Rosemont 2003. The jam that came out of that song was from another planet. Backwards Down The Number Line was getting heavy rotation in my world before the show so I was more than estatic to hear it live as well as Light. Personally, I think it was an awesome pair of shows and a great way for me to welcome the boys back into my yearly concert calender. Cant wait for Deer Creek tomorrow and Chicago in August!!!
^^^I totally get what you're saying man, and my use of the word "murdering" was definitely way too harsh, but what can I say... I love to throw comments like that out every now and then just to get some people riled up. No doubt in my mind that this was probably one of Trey's happiest moments of his life, jamming with a childhood idol of his. It was a nostalgic moment for the band and several people in the audience. Hell, I was at the show with Mojo here who was in high heaven at this point in the show and I even commented to him in the middle of Mustang Sally how he must be at an all time high witnessing what was going on in front of him. It just wasn't my thing. I'm glad that you can acknowledge that this doesn't really mean I don't know jack about music. I got all the respect in the world for Bruce and what he's brought to the music biz, I just prefer not to hear him... especially when I'm in the mindset of seeing Phish. But hey, like you said Mustang Sally was pretty awesome and if they had stuck to non-Bruce songs with him on stage I probably would have had a completely different opinion of his presence on stage.
To me though I cant see how one or two songs you didn't like at the end of the first set came close to ruining your whole show. I liked Mustang Sally, and Glory Days, Bobby Jean was boring but hey that is why they have long beer lines. It gives you something to do if you are not digging the tunes at the moment. Phish pretty much always does what they want to, and hey if I am ever in a famous band and Trey decides to come on stage with me at Bonnaroo, I would be happy to do one classic cover, and two Phish songs. I idolize them they way he does Bruce, and after listening to his story about his first show I can see why they wanted to play with him.
Post by candyflippedaround on Jun 18, 2009 9:41:45 GMT -5
Bruce definitely slowed the show down while he was out there (after mustang sally) but it was completely made up for just because it was Bruce Springsteen staring Trey in the face while they play guitar. not gonna be topped in my mind for quite some time.
I hope everyone realizes that Bruce guesting with Phish is the very first time a headliner has guested with another headliner. Just to put a grand occasion in a new perspective.
I hope everyone realizes that Bruce guesting with Phish is the very first time a headliner has guested with another headliner. Just to put a grand occasion in a new perspective.
I wasn't there last year, but didn't Jack Johnson sit in for some of Pearl Jam?
Post by mauldinite on Jun 18, 2009 10:19:50 GMT -5
Eddie came out and played "Constellations" during Jack's set last year. It wasn't billed ahead of time though. Technically, though, Jack Johnson wasn't a headliner last year, it was Metallica, Pearl Jam, and WSP. So I guess Bruce/Phish was the first!
Jack Johnson wasn't technically a headliner, but that's only because ABB dropped out of Sunday. He was billed ahead of Widespread Panic and they sold the move as having a double headliner on Saturday.
But I agree as far as collaborations go: Phish & Springsteen > Jack Johnson & Vedder
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I loved Friday night. I really thought they went out there with the intent to kick ass. Hence Chalkdust, DWD, Harry Hood, YEM and Wilson. Playing straight through without a set break also added to the intensity.
Sunday started off amazing. I was pretty sure it was going to be the best show of my life. I went nuts when Bruce came out (even though I wasn't the biggest fan of his set the night before (GASP!)). Mustang Sally was amazing, truly epic. Glory Days was awesome as well. Bobby Jean was kind of a wtf moment for me. I did not know the song at all, and kept commenting on how bruce-y it sounded (that "jingling" that is present in almost every Bruce song). Second set Sunday kind of lost me a bit. I couldn't get into the early jams and I didn't start to come back around until about Farmhouse.
