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I loved Friday night. I really thought they went out there with the intent to kick ass. Hence Chalkdust, DWD, Harry Hood, YEM and Wilson. Playing straight through without a set break also added to the intensity.
Sunday started off amazing. I was pretty sure it was going to be the best show of my life. I went nuts when Bruce came out (even though I wasn't the biggest fan of his set the night before (GASP!)). Mustang Sally was amazing, truly epic. Glory Days was awesome as well. Bobby Jean was kind of a wtf moment for me. I did not know the song at all, and kept commenting on how bruce-y it sounded (that "jingling" that is present in almost every Bruce song). Second set Sunday kind of lost me a bit. I couldn't get into the early jams and I didn't start to come back around until about Farmhouse.
I was actually kind of rocking out hard till Farmhouse. Wasn't thrilled to hear it, but then again, I never am. After not liking it at first, I am definitely all about Backwards Down the Number Line now. That one was an acquired taste for me.
6/18: Phish in Hartford 6/25: Phish in Camden 7/2-7/4: Nateva 7/17: God Street Wine at Irving Plaza 7/23-7/25: String Cheese at Red Rocks!! 8/17-8/18: Phish at Jones Beach 9/3: Rush at PNC
This Bonnaroo lineup is in dire need of some Rush.
I enjoyed both Phish shows a lot, but I thought Bruce playing with them was the best moment of the festival (obviously).
I agree that their playing Bobby Jean is kind of a headscratcher. It is a song that even big Bruce fans hate when he brings it out. I wonder if Trey or the others requested to play certain songs. I don't hate the song at all, but that's because I look at it in the context of Bruce writing it as a departing song to Steve Van Zandt when he left the band prior to the Born in the USA tour. As someone in their early twenties, I find the friendship between those two men who have been friends since 16 quite remarkable. I particularly the last few lines "Well if you do you'll know I'm thinking of you and all the miles in between / And I'm just calling one last time not to change your mind / But just to say I miss you babe, good luck goodbye, Bobby Jean," but I still silently groan when Bruce decides that this is an encore song as he did much of the last tour.
ok. wow. pretty much just got enough energy back to get online. this weekend killed me. it didn't help i got sick the day after ig ot home. what an amazing weekend. to me, sunday was definitely better than friday. obviously both were amazing, but looking at friday's set on paper it should have been much better, as people said, it seemed like they were sort of just trying to get through the songs. did anyone else notice that the rest of the band besides trey were completely surprised when trey started playing highway to hell?
i was with a group that pretty much knew nothing about phish, but every single one of them left amazed and they all want to join me for some of the august dates. phish made a ton of new fans this weekend. the crowd was definitely not a phish crowd, you could tell that most peeople did not know the songs being played or any of the crowd interaction stuff, which wasn't too bad, it just would've been cooler if all 50,000+ ppl were joinging in. both nights i had a great spot, fri a couple rows from the rail behind the pit and sunday in the front of the pit. as for bruce, i thgought it was pretty cool, especially since i missed his set on saturday. however, i wouldn't have minded if they just played one song together.
i have so much more to say but can't even get my thoughts together right now. also, really the only thing i didn't like about this weekend was the mess. i thought it was absolutely disgusting all the garbage that was left after each show. i know i felt bad the one time i accidentally dropped a roach and couldn't find it, it really isn't that hard to be self contained and just pick up your stuff when you leave. thank you to everyone who stayed behind after to help clean up. i thought that was pretty amazing seeing all those people cleaning other peoples' messes when i'm sure everyone there was completely exhausted.
I enjoyed both Phish shows a lot, but I thought Bruce playing with them was the best moment of the festival (obviously).
I agree that their playing Bobby Jean is kind of a headscratcher. It is a song that even big Bruce fans hate when he brings it out. I wonder if Trey or the others requested to play certain songs. I don't hate the song at all, but that's because I look at it in the context of Bruce writing it as a departing song to Steve Van Zandt when he left the band prior to the Born in the USA tour. As someone in their early twenties, I find the friendship between those two men who have been friends since 16 quite remarkable. I particularly the last few lines "Well if you do you'll know I'm thinking of you and all the miles in between / And I'm just calling one last time not to change your mind / But just to say I miss you babe, good luck goodbye, Bobby Jean," but I still silently groan when Bruce decides that this is an encore song as he did much of the last tour.
this sums up pretty much all the opinions i've heard about the bruce sit-in... i don't mind him, but for it to work he definitely needed to go with a 3rd song that would appeal more to a broad base of listeners IMO. I enjoy the transitions and unpredictable jams that phish is so well known for, but sometimes it's nice to just experience it in a more traditional concert format. I dunno. As for the rest of the fest i want to see beastie boys (i heard NAS came on stage, and I have a secret obsession with his music) and Coheen... it should all be on tv saturday according to this: newmusicreviews.net/fuse-fest-bonnaroo-2009-lineup-announced/
I'm glad to have seen these shows - having not seen the band since 2003, I was really looking forward to them. And on some levels they delivered. For instance, everything about Friday's set after "Free" was terrific. And I thought the first set of Sunday was quite good. My only problem with the shows is the same one I've had with most late-period Phish, where their shows seem more like a collection of songs rather than a cohesive event, if that makes sense. There's very little flow, and it seems as though they've more or less given up on the type of jamming and transitioning (segues in particular) that made them special, i.e. they jam out, you don't know where it's going to go, if it's going to start a new song, loop back around, etc. That type of stuff makes the difference for me.
Very enjoyable shows, both of them. I can only hope they keep moving upward from here.
the bonnaroo shows were definitely not a good sample of the way they have been playing this tour. you are right it felt more like a collection of songs, especially friday, but the rest of the tour has definitely been as you said a "cohesive event." it just shows how great phish really is that even though it was sort of an off night it was still an incredible show.
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 18, 2009 14:06:07 GMT -5
^^Bobby Jean was the low point of Phish's performances for me and my musical tastes. I'd rather hear Trey flub Golgi over and over again than sit through Bobby Jean again. I'm just gonna go ahead and say it was the worst song I heard the entire weekend. It's the only point at any show that I saw where I actually wished they would just stop playing all together.
I'm glad you don't have control over my itunes though
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 18, 2009 14:12:28 GMT -5
I'm choosing to acknowledge the novelty of Bruce playing with Phish during Mustang Sally and while Trey is ripping a solo over Glory Days. But seriously, Bobby Jean was just painful to listen to. Bruce's voice was as horrible on the recording as I remember thinking it sounded on the farm. I can appreciate the collaboration for the sake of Trey jamming with his boyhood hero, but really I just don't like that song. I'll take uninspired jams over a bad song any day.
I would never begrudge someone not liking Bobby Jean, but I don't think it is a bad song, just a bad live song (though it would probably not fall in my top 50 Springsteen songs). Unlike most of Bruce's work, it doesn't improve at all when played in a live setting. However, I would easily take that song over uninspired jams. I guess that's why I really don't see myself ever fully embracing jam bands, but I still did enjoy the shows. This isn't a discussion for this thread, but I think Bruce's voice was fantastic last tour (meaning last year) and it just seems like he suddenly has hit a breaking point - though he has been sick for much of this tour and was obviously sick last Sat.
I want to add that I told Idio at the brunch that I didn't like Stealing Time from the Faulty Plan, but after hearing it on the farm and listening to the recording today, I really like it.
I loved Friday night. I really thought they went out there with the intent to kick ass. Hence Chalkdust, DWD, Harry Hood, YEM and Wilson. Playing straight through without a set break also added to the intensity.
Sunday started off amazing. I was pretty sure it was going to be the best show of my life. I went nuts when Bruce came out (even though I wasn't the biggest fan of his set the night before (GASP!)). Mustang Sally was amazing, truly epic. Glory Days was awesome as well. Bobby Jean was kind of a wtf moment for me. I did not know the song at all, and kept commenting on how bruce-y it sounded (that "jingling" that is present in almost every Bruce song). Second set Sunday kind of lost me a bit. I couldn't get into the early jams and I didn't start to come back around until about Farmhouse.
I was actually kind of rocking out hard till Farmhouse. Wasn't thrilled to hear it, but then again, I never am. After not liking it at first, I am definitely all about Backwards Down the Number Line now. That one was an acquired taste for me.
It's not my favorite song, but one I knew I could count on hearing seeing as that we were on a farm. It also happens to be the only Phish song my gf knows, so I guess it has a sentimental feeling.
I was actually kind of rocking out hard till Farmhouse. Wasn't thrilled to hear it, but then again, I never am. After not liking it at first, I am definitely all about Backwards Down the Number Line now. That one was an acquired taste for me.
It's not my favorite song, but one I knew I could count on hearing seeing as that we were on a farm. It also happens to be the only Phish song my gf knows, so I guess it has a sentimental feeling.
I was really excited to hear it, I didnt think they'd play it. It wasnt my favorite version of it but the song kinda has sentimental feeling to me as well and was the first Phish song I ever really really got into back in the day. Actually hearing it live made me pretty happy.
I want to add that I told Idio at the brunch that I didn't like Stealing Time from the Faulty Plan, but after hearing it on the farm and listening to the recording today, I really like it.
I'm pretty comfortable saying that's probably my favorite of the new songs. Very good stuff indeed
I'm choosing to acknowledge the novelty of Bruce playing with Phish during Mustang Sally and while Trey is ripping a solo over Glory Days. But seriously, Bobby Jean was just painful to listen to. Bruce's voice was as horrible on the recording as I remember thinking it sounded on the farm. I can appreciate the collaboration for the sake of Trey jamming with his boyhood hero, but really I just don't like that song. I'll take uninspired jams over a bad song any day.
I thought it was pretty obvious that Bobby Jean was song Trey liked since he was young, and didn't want to miss the chance to play with bruce. they played glory days and mustang sally for the crowd. the guy played a 3 hour set, no break 2 nights before, you can't sacrifice one "uninspired jam" to let trey play something he wanted to play?
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 18, 2009 15:13:36 GMT -5
^^Trey can play whatever he wants with whoever he wants. That doesn't mean I have to listen to it, though. And I definitely don't have to think it's awesome.
^^Trey can play whatever he wants with whoever he wants. That doesn't mean I have to listen to it, though. And I definitely don't have to think it's awesome.
Yeah, I don't really understand the line of thought that "If Trey is having a great that means you should be too." Trey was having a great time on the junk and that didn't translate to good shows. So just because the performer is having a good time does not mean that good time translates to the audience.
I want to add that I told Idio at the brunch that I didn't like Stealing Time from the Faulty Plan, but after hearing it on the farm and listening to the recording today, I really like it.
I want to add that I told Idio at the brunch that I didn't like Stealing Time from the Faulty Plan, but after hearing it on the farm and listening to the recording today, I really like it.
you told me what at the where now?
;D
Where did you go Sunday dude? Druid kept on saying you were gonna come back.
OK WHO'S MIND HAS BEEN CHANGED?! ANYONE??? ANYONE??
I'm thinking i'm close. All I need is like one or two more people to tell me that Trey thoroughly enjoyed playing with Bruce and I think I might see the light.
These were my first Phish shows and I was greatly impressed. I can't comment to much on song selection and whatnot because I have only a casual acquaintance with their music, but both shows were lots of fun.
I told Strum after the show that there was a particular reason for the Springsteen songs they chose and that he would probably understand when he listened to the show again. I guess I was wrong about that.
I really feel that Trey picked those two songs to try to make a point, especially to the younger crowd. Both of these songs talk about experiencing great things(people or times) and how these experiences are transient and should be appreciated because they do not last. This is especially poignant for the last show of the best Bonnaroo. They were trying to get us to think. I'm really sorry some missed that. I guess it's something that takes a little more life experience to appreciate.
For the record when I was Strum's age I hated Springsteen.
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 18, 2009 16:23:22 GMT -5
^^I forgot you told me that, Mojo, to be perfectly honest. I definitely didn't pick up on it after listening, but I can't say I was going into it with open ears either
