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Post by mulcherry0420 on Jan 7, 2009 17:31:54 GMT -5
well the way i see it, they can either wait another 3 weeks or so to announce their tour along with the rest of the lineup OR they could announce a full fledged tour that has every date on it OR They could announce about a months worth of shows after hampton and wait to announce the 2nd leg of the tour until Bonnaroo announces their Lineup OR they wont play bonnaroo and we will get a tour lineup
any way they go, I need to save up money for a possible Noblesville, Alpine Valley run
we'll be lucky to get one of those (phish, dead, Zep)
phish - only a rumor. a logical and strong one - but still just a rumor the dead - seems almost a lock......but maybe Phil still has negative feelings after last year? who knows Zep - keep dreaming. it'd be amazing but can't see it happening.
most likely is the dead.
I would say Phish is the most likely, it is a pretty strong rumor.
Phish is going to be at bonnaroo. The tour is in June, and the dates surrounding the fest give them plenty of room to fit it in.
It Doesn't seem like dates are coming today though. Obviously, with dates popping up today, they will be here soon. Let's hope they arrive before the end of the week.
So unless you’ve been living in a cocoon this week, you have heard the mainstream rumors that Phish will headline Bonnaroo for two of the three nights. If you have been reading Phish Thoughts for a bit, you’ve known that this would happen for about a month now. Yet, as the rumor has been virtually substantiated from the powers that be, there has been a lot of backlash in the community about this decision.
bonnaroo_500x400Some think Phish has no place on a multi-band bill, something they avoided for most of their career. The argument is that Phish shouldn’t be part of something bigger when they can draw the same amount of people themselves. Some feel that they are being pressured into it by super-manager, Coran Capshaw, who holds a stake in the festival, and other outside business influences. Bottom line, all of these lines of reasoning are, in my opinion, total crap. Phish is playing Bonnaroo for one reason and one reason only, they want to! The Clifford Ball
The Clifford Ball
If you remember back to the late ’90s and early ’00s, Phish, with Great Northern Productions, created the blueprint for the massive Phish festival. When southern concert promoters Superfly and A.C. Productions teamed up to throw the first jam-rooted Bonnaroo, they looked to the experts, welcoming many members of Great Northern’s team on board to help and to use their model of Phish’s former weekend celebrations. Yet, due to timing, Phish never got to take part in the festival that they were integral in inspiring. Soon followed all the other mega-festivals that, trying desperately to draw as many people that Phish drew by themselves. Bonnaroo and its brethren essentially filled the summer time vacuum for 60,000 to 80,000 fans who could no longer trek to Limestone. Essentially, Phish’s absence made room for the growth of Bonnaroo, and now the band wants to join in. Do they need to play it– of course not! But they want to join the party too!
Consider these factors with the overwhelming nature of Coventry and the effort, coordination, and money it takes to throw their own festival (which they still may do!), and tell me, honestly, that this doesn’t make sense for them. They pull into a huge festival with no work of their own, tear the place apart for two nights, steal the show, and move on with their tour. Sound like a plan to me! With Trey’s affinity, familiarity and previous performances at Bonnaroo, it seems like a very congruent fit. Trey & Mike at Rothbury (Rolling Stone)
Trey & Mike at Rothbury (Rolling Stone)
When the members of Phish reemerged at last summer’s Rothbury festival in various sit-ins and performances, it seemed like they enjoyed being a part of everything. Basically every other significant band plays at these festivals, and why would Phish not want to take part in this community celebration of music, art, and fun? It is not like Phish will be moving from mega-fest to mega-fest– they are gonna’ stop in at one or two, and if you wanna skip ‘em, no one will hold a gun to your head. So why complain? Why not accept that your personal desires don’t line up with Phish’s desires, and meet your buddies at the next show? The Lemonwheel - photo Todd Wickersty
The Lemonwheel (T. Wickersty)
In addition, Bonnaroo will automatically expose Phish to an entire new generation of kids who were in middle school at the time of Coventry. More people who would have never imagined the magic of Phish will get to experience it in bigger-than-life format. How can this possibly be a bad thing? If you think that there won’t be a whole new scene of Phish fans whether they play the festival or not, you are sorely mistaken. Kids who have been incessantly listening to bootlegs and smoking bongs for the past four years, kids who had older siblings that sung the praises of the Phish, kids who never knew Phish existed are all gonna’ be on board. Welcome to Phish 2009!
And hey, for the fans it’s a deal! $200 bucks for two shows and two full days of festivities?? Hell, I paid $240 for each night of Hampton, sounds like a deal to me! And anyone who thinks Phish will step on that stage and not absolutely slaughter their shows forgot who Phish is. These will be “super-Phish shows.” Shows whose setlists you will cringe at when you read on the Internet what you missed. This is Phish’s time to reclaim their throne as the maestros of the live music scene, and if you think most everyone won’t be walking away from Manchester, TN discussing how insane the Phish sets were, I think you’ve got a surprise coming. The Great Went
The Great Went
Can you even imagine the magnitude of the Bonnaroo “Tweezer?” Can you fathom the depth of the Mike’s Groove that will overtake the masses’ consciousness? Inevitably, Phish will also debut new material at the festival, and whether is a twenty-minute transcendent “Light” or a set-opening “Backwards Down the Number Line,” everyone will walk away from Bonnaroo more excited about Phish then when they entered. Phish’s mission at Bonnaroo will be clear, “tear the roof off the sucka’.” And I guarantee you, that is exactly what they will do.
The fact is, people are confusing their own desire to attend Bonnaroo with Phish’s “right” to play there. Understandably, a mega-festival comes with its caveats and clusterfucks, but at the same time, it comes with freedom from ushers, seats, conventional rules, and standard show limitations. While it is understandable why individuals would not want to attend the event, making the jump to say Phish shouldn’t play the event is purely illogical. Ready or not, here they come!
What are your opinions on Phish headlining Bonnaroo for two nights? Respond in Comments below!
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rumorSUMMER ‘09 RUMOR MILL: As Bonnaroo is all but confirmed, a few more nuggets of info have been passed my way. From a solid source, Phish has two nights scheduled for Camden in mid-June, seemingly part of their initial early-summer tour. I’ve heard potential Red Rocks dates to be 7.29-8.2. I’ve heard some grumbling about NOLA Jazzfest, but nothing firm at this point. I wouldn’t forget about those other weekends in March either. It’s almost 2009, we should know soon. That’s all I’ve got for now folks! Enjoy the weekend.
Last Edit: Jan 7, 2009 17:55:54 GMT -5 by mulcherry0420 - Back to Top
Okay, so if we are indeed getting 2 nights of Phish, does anyone want to speculate who would open for them? That's a pretty big time slot. There could be so many interesting possibilities. I think Primus would be perfect for one night. I haven't made up my mind yet who I'd want for the other.
I was thinking moe. too as a possibility. Particle would be great, but I don't think they're big enough. Though, some untz would definitely get me going for Phish. What about the Disco Biscuits? I know they RAGE the late nights, but they'd be an awesome opener for Phish. And I see no reason why they couldn't play a late night too. ;D
Post by mangopositive on Jan 8, 2009 7:48:27 GMT -5
According to several people on PT, Phish.com briefly had the dates, featuring the skywriting and PYITE playing in the background. They were taken down quickly, but several people have confirmed.
june 4-5 Jones Beach
June 6 greatwoods
june 7 camden
june 9 asheville
june 16 st louis
june 18 pittsburgh
june 19 deer creek
june 20-21 alpine
Notice the mid June break?
I'm glad I only paid $220 for my Bonnaroo tickets.
According to several people on PT, Phish.com briefly had the dates, featuring the skywriting and PYITE playing in the background. They were taken down quickly, but several people have confirmed.
june 4-5 Jones Beach
June 6 greatwoods
june 7 camden
june 9 asheville
june 16 st louis
june 18 pittsburgh
june 19 deer creek
june 20-21 alpine
Notice the mid June break?
I'm glad I only paid $220 for my Bonnaroo tickets.
and i was wrong. nevermind.
Last Edit: Jan 9, 2009 10:50:48 GMT -5 by idio - Back to Top
According to several people on PT, Phish.com briefly had the dates, featuring the skywriting and PYITE playing in the background. They were taken down quickly, but several people have confirmed.
june 4-5 Jones Beach
June 6 greatwoods
june 7 camden
june 9 asheville
june 16 st louis
june 18 pittsburgh
june 19 deer creek
june 20-21 alpine
Notice the mid June break?
I'm glad I only paid $220 for my Bonnaroo tickets.
These are far more believable than the other "schedules" we've seen. Still, a very unusual tour.
Also, I'll FIGHT SOMEONE for a ticket to Asheville Civic Center!
Although an official announcement is pending, Phish's first tour in five years is beginning to take shape.
This morning, LiveNation.com was listing a Jan. 30 on-sale date for a Phish show on June 18 at the Post-Gazette Pavilion outside Pittsburgh, which lines up nicely alongside rumors of an appearance at the Bonnaroo festival in Manchester, Tenn., the previous weekend. The link has since been removed.
Meanwhile, a June 6 show at Great Woods outside Boston is up on Ticketsnow.com, a secondary ticketing company owned by Ticketmaster.
For now, the only confirmed Phish shows are March 6-8 at the Hampton Coliseum in Hampton, Va., the band's first since August 2004.
These dates were posted on Phish.com! even if they were taken down, doesnt that pretty much make a phish a lock? Between the rumors and the huge gap in these dates, i would say yes....knock on wood