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Buffy Remake Without Joss? Whedonites Will Burn L.A. To The Ground First By Meredith Woerner, 6:30 AM on Tue May 26 2009,
Hollywood wants to remake the original Buffy The Vampire Slayer movie — but darker, with all new characters, and (most importantly) without Joss Whedon. Do they know who they're messing with?
According to The Hollywood Reporter:
Roy Lee and Doug Davison of Vertigo Entertainment are working with original movie director Fran Rubel Kuzui and her husband, Kaz Kuzui, on what is being labeled a remake or relaunch, but not a sequel or prequel.
This film would have no ties to the TV series, and characters like Angel, Xander, Willow or Spike would not appear. Rumors are the re-creators are looking for a darker alternate storyline, with a new slayer in today's times. Whedon, the writer of the original Buffy film and eventual producer, writer, director and caretaker of the entire Buffy franchise, hasn't even been approached about the remake. Says THR: "The producers do not rule out Whedon's involvement but have not yet reached out to him." Well they'd better get him on board, unless they want to make a movie that will unleash the deepest, most horrible backlash of all time.
With all the vampire media hype today, it's no wonder they want to strike while the staking is hot, but to remake Buffy, without Whedon? That just seems wrong, and pretty darn stupid. Granted, Kuzui was the executive producer of the Buffy TV series and Angel spin off, but it was always Whedon's baby. To make it without his involvement seems to be missing the point as to why people loved this franchise. It's all Whedon — his characters, voice, dialogue, story telling, quirks — the list goes on.
Back in 1998 Variety reported that Whedon was toying with the idea of a big budget Buffy film, and just this April Whedon was quoted telling the press that a Buffy movie was
"Not gonna happen," Whedon told reporters in Hollywood on Wednesday. "Not gonna happen. Until I gather the press and make a public announcement myself that it's going to happen, never believe anything."
Kuzui Enterprises owns the rights to the Buffy, script which she developed and got the funding for, from the then past writer of Roseanne Whedon, so this could all really happen, with or without him.
Seriously? How do you make a Buffy The Vampire Slayer movie without Joss Whedon? He already had to save it from their "vision" for it once.
And now they are relaunching this character in such a way as to be sure to alienate the core audience for the show? Are they hoping that they can lure in the Twighlight fanbase?
The original movie was more comical then anything. Luke Perry before he was famous and I think Hilary Swank as a snotty girl...Plus the great death scene with Paul Reubens....What he wrote was far from dark....great but not dark.
I liked the movie for the campy bit that they decided to make it into but the show managed to be both dark and very funny. IMO it was much, much better.
(Speaking of fun casting, aside from Swank and Reubens, blink and you'll miss Ben Affleck as a basketball player.)
Post by 2incommand on May 28, 2009 11:41:02 GMT -5
The first movie was ok, very campy. I am in love with the show. I pretty much love anything Joss Whedon. (Angel, Firefly, Buffy) It would be a huge mistake to remake the movie without him or the original characters. I definately would steer clear.
No more Buffy talk?? I just rewatched the 7th season and now I am in full Buffy mode again. Has anyone read the Season Eight comic books? They are pretty good.
I read the first one and enjoyed it but never got around to finding the others. Before they came out there was talk of releasing Season Eight as a graphic novel after the comics came out. I'm hoping that's still the plan.
Sidebar: Anthony Stewart Head was pretty critical of this decision today on IMDB talking about how Joss was 19 when he wrote the screenplay for the movie and then got muscled out of the way by the Director & Producer and it was his guidance that returned the property to a respectable franchise.
I read the first one and enjoyed it but never got around to finding the others. Before they came out there was talk of releasing Season Eight as a graphic novel after the comics came out. I'm hoping that's still the plan.
Sidebar: Anthony Stewart Head was pretty critical of this decision today on IMDB talking about how Joss was 19 when he wrote the screenplay for the movie and then got muscled out of the way by the Director & Producer and it was his guidance that returned the property to a respectable franchise.
They have put the first 20 comics into 4 volumes of graphic novels. They are up to I think #21 in the comics now. They are pretty good. i'm not a comic book fan, but since Joss writes alot of the script it is very similar to the show. Sometimes it goes off on things that are a little strange even for Buffy, but all in all it is very good.
Huh. Missed them. I'll have to go looking!!!! Thanks for the update!
Maybe we can get Joss to do an Angel movie it they are going to undermine his Buffy franchise. Let's face it, in the end Angel became the stronger show. Plus, it got custody of Spike!
I agree. It was a very strong show. My only problem was the way it ended. Horrible. Luckily they have continued it on in comic book form the way Buffy has. It is titled Angel:After the fall. They have graphic novels with the collection of comics exactly like Buffy. Also, I love Spike, but my favorite characters are Willow and used to be Anya (RIP).
I am in the middle of rewatching Buffy (& now Angel) for the third or fourth time. Just started Buffy 4/Angel 1. The first vamp Angel stakes in the series premiere is Lost's Sawyer!
Whedonless Buffy is a joke and too moronic to happen. I thought the Season 8 comics were horrible though. I loved Fray and the Firefly comics and Joss' run on Astonishing X-Men and just couldn't believe how bad the comics seemed for the first few issues that I stopped. I was a bit scared of Dollhouse and didn't watch it from the start. I have watched two eps now that it is renewed (the premier and the one where Patton Oswalt is introduced) and it seems like it could be better than it originally looked.
I started watching Dollhouse very begrudgingly and solely on my faith in him and I have to admit that it was much better than I expected. Now I've got to get caught up on the last three on my DVR!!!
I was thinking recently that i need to rewatch my Buffy DVDs. I have way surpassed the third or forth time . . . . . . . way
There are plenty of episodes I've seen 10-20 times, but the ones I only watch if I am watching straight through-some of those I am probably on 3 or 4 with.
^^ me too. I have seen some episodes way too many times. I love the musical and the last 2 episodes of season 5. You should give season 8 another chance. The first few comics were iffy, but itgets better. I like the fact that the dialouge in the comic is very similar to the show. Also it is all canon so it makes me feel like Buffy isn't over yet.
It's too bad that his Wonder Woman didn't happen. He's one of the few that could pull off that balance of ridiculousness (invisible jet, seriously?) and asskickery. Plus, Cobie Smulders would've been great casting.
I know this topic has been thoroughly and well covered, but I'd just like to say I've always loved the show and the movie. I would be sad to see it done without Whedon. I feel a little silly to say that I never knew there were Buffy comics, I'll definately check that out...thanks! And also, when everyone was talking about casting, let's not forget David Arquette was in the movie too.
Will there still be a Ripper? Posted Jun 3rd 2009 6:03PM by Brad Trechak
Anthony Stewart Head, who played the character of Rupert Giles on Buffy the Vampire Slayer a long, long time ago, has hinted that the British spin-off Ripper (which would star the character of Giles) is not outside the realm of possibility.
Granted, there are a few pitfalls in the way. Creator Joss Whedon is busy with his series Dollhouse and his upcoming movie Cabin in the Woods. Plus there may be some confusion regarding the character if they get that Whedon-less Buffy movie made.
There is definitely still life left in the Buffy franchise (look at all the successful series and movies out there involving vampires with a female protagonist). I'm sorry Joss didn't use that Eliza Dushku contract to make a series about the character of Faith rather than Dollhouse, although I understand his creative need to spread his wings. In my mind, there is only a matter of time before they make a feature film that is a direct spin-off from the television series that involves Joss Whedon and doesn't suck. Fingers crossed.
It seems like since the show ended, it's always been rumored of spin-offs, but nothing has happened yet. Besides the comics that is. If they do a movie i would like it to atleast tie in things that are happening in the comics. Whedon had stated the comics are canon and I think he wouldn't make something that contradicts them. Of all the characters, I would love to see a Willow spin-off. When the show ended it is apparent she is the most powerful person in the group, as well as the world almost. I would love to see more about her story. Also, Spike and Angel.
Yeah, wounded puppy Spike is not nearly as fun as when he was bad. Neutered Spike was pretty awesome, too, hanging out at Giles' place watching Passions and drinking blood from the librarian mug...
Yeah, wounded puppy Spike is not nearly as fun as when he was bad. Neutered Spike was pretty awesome, too, hanging out at Giles' place watching Passions and drinking blood from the librarian mug...
Yes, very funny. I was re-watching this season (4) this weekend.
