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Just to feed the hungry gut of speculation, the deceased was part of the clean-up crew, right? Maybe he found something... Perhaps he mistook the find for something valuable? E.g. mistaking varmint poison discarded by one of the food vendors for a ground score? Or, maybe the baggie of rolls he found didn't mix so well with his antidepressants, and his blood pressure spiked, blowing a gasket? Maybe he was allergic to bees. He was doing his job, picking up trash, and he didn't see the bee licking off the soda can. We can speculate 'til the cows come home. God rest his soul.
Just to feed the hungry gut of speculation, the deceased was part of the clean-up crew, right? Maybe he found something... Perhaps he mistook the find for something valuable? E.g. mistaking varmint poison discarded by one of the food vendors for a ground score? Or, maybe the baggie of rolls he found didn't mix so well with his antidepressants, and his blood pressure spiked, blowing a gasket? Maybe he was allergic to bees. He was doing his job, picking up trash, and he didn't see the bee licking off the soda can. We can speculate 'til the cows come home. God rest his soul.
I know it's hard to read through this thread with all the back and forth we've been posting.......but it's been noted by people who claim to know him that it was an overdose of H.
That still isn't 100% (not reported in the news or anything) but on other boards a few different members said the same thing and that they knew the guy. I believe them.....why would they make that up?
People who claim to know him?? Where they with him?? i dont understand this. He most likely wasnt by himself at Bonnaroo. Where did his friends go? and why did he OD on monday freaking afternoon. this is just insane
People who claim to know him?? Where they with him?? i dont understand this. He most likely wasnt by himself at Bonnaroo. Where did his friends go? and why did he OD on monday freaking afternoon. this is just insane
A few pages back someone posted that it was an OD of H and that this news was confirmed by members of an STS9 message board. He provided the link (you have to sign up to view the messages) and I went to go read. At least two members said that it was someone they knew. They weren't at the fest with him but heard the news through family and friends.
One said he was a close friend of the guy..........the other said he was a friend of a friend.
Just to feed the hungry gut of speculation, the deceased was part of the clean-up crew, right? Maybe he found something... Perhaps he mistook the find for something valuable? E.g. mistaking varmint poison discarded by one of the food vendors for a ground score? Or, maybe the baggie of rolls he found didn't mix so well with his antidepressants, and his blood pressure spiked, blowing a gasket? Maybe he was allergic to bees. He was doing his job, picking up trash, and he didn't see the bee licking off the soda can. We can speculate 'til the cows come home. God rest his soul.
I know it's hard to read through this thread with all the back and forth we've been posting.......but it's been noted by people who claim to know him that it was an overdose of H.
That still isn't 100% (not reported in the news or anything) but on other boards a few different members said the same thing and that they knew the guy. I believe them.....why would they make that up?
At this point everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt. There was no mention of drugs in the initial press reports. Law enforcement didn't disclose if drugs or paraphernalia was found in his tent. So, I will suspend believe until the situation becomes more definitive. Do you know where, exactly, his body was found?
^Well if a friend knows him, and says he had a problem with this I will believe the friend. I am a member of thelowdown but do not post there. I read what his friends had to say though, and it is just sad.
At this point everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt. There was no mention of NO NO WORD!!! in the initial press reports. Law enforcement didn't disclose if NO NO WORD!!! or paraphernalia was found in his tent. So, I will suspend believe until the situation becomes more definitive. Do you know where, exactly, his body was found?
I agree everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Which is why I said it's not 100%. I'm just going off of what people stated in the STS9 board (images added to my edited post above):
1.) needles found 2.) 2 different people say they know him and that it was H
I just don't see why a few people on a different board would make up things like that. If they did make up the claim that they knew him and how he died......then they are twisted.
If you spot someone selling an illegal that you consider to be very dangerous, do you feel that you have a responsibility to contact an authority about it or is it a matter of live and let die?
^If they are just somewhere random I will let them alone. If they are doing something that will bring junkies/addicts close to my campsite I will turn them in. I do not need my stuff stolen then traded for that crap.
If you spot someone selling an illegal that you consider to be very dangerous, do you feel that you have a responsibility to contact an authority about it or is it a matter of live and let die?
A very good question. Everybody has a different idea of what they consider "dangerous" and it is really tough to answer this. It'll take a lot of thinking.
I agree everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Which is why I said it's not 100%. I'm just going off of what people stated in the STS9 board (images added to my edited post above):
1.) needles found 2.) 2 different people say they know him and that it was H
I just don't see why a few people on a different board would make up things like that. If they did make up the claim that they knew him and how he died......then they are twisted.
If he was a user it still doesn't mean he ODed. The possibility exists, sure. But, he still could have expired from an allergic reaction to a bee sting. In this case his usage would have very little to do with his death, other than not getting prompt medical attention for an allergic reaction.
Typically people who are allergic to bee stings know it, and are not going to lay down in a hot tent if they are stung. Also it is not like this guy was a Yankee he came from the only state that has hotter more oppressive weather than Bonnaroo. It could have been a combo of things, but at the end of the day the laying down in the tent is more than likely what did him in, and I find it hard to believe he could have done that in the sun without pharmaceutical help.
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I doubt it was a bee sting or some other allergic reaction. If two people who said they are friends say it was an OD.....I'll believe that. I'll be more than happy to say I was wrong if the toxicology reports come out and say it wasn't OD or druqs weren't involved.
For all the speculation, we don't know -- if it was an OD as has been reliably speculated -- what time the shooting up took place. We apparently know he was okay as of 3 on Monday and that he was found around noon Tuesday. This easily could have happened in the dark of night so laying blame on choosing to do this in a hot tent may be misplaced.
If you spot someone selling an illegal that you consider to be very dangerous, do you feel that you have a responsibility to contact an authority about it or is it a matter of live and let die?
A very good question. Everybody has a different idea of what they consider "dangerous" and it is really tough to answer this. It'll take a lot of thinking.
I'd be VERY careful with doing something like this at a show/festival. You might step into something that blows up in your face. However, I'm also a firm believer in helping out one's neighbors at shows/festivals.
IMHO, alcohol is always far and away the most dangerous substance around.
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Post by myscatterheart on Jun 22, 2009 13:55:40 GMT -5
Just rattin on someone who has drugs you don't agree with at a festival is ridiculous. If you think someone is in severe danger - on the verge of OD/of great concern, that's another thing , imo
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 22, 2009 14:05:06 GMT -5
I think if I saw a nearby camp using/selling H at Roo there's no way I'd go an notify authorities. They have just as much right to turn me in for doing whatever I choose at my camp and I'd be pretty pissed off if that happened to me. Just because they're choosing to use something that I have no interest in being around doesn't mean I'm going to cast judgement on them and assume they'll eventually bring a crowd to steal all my shyt. If anything, I'd simply just make sure everything valuable is locked or out of sight if I'm that concerned about it... but I'm surely not going to try and get them busted and ruin their weekend. If I wanted to do that then I'd work security at a festival
^If it was discreet and not causing any problems I would not even know it was going on. If I felt it was endangering me, or the people I was camped with I would quietly notify security. For instance if someone 3 cars down from me had brought a portable meth lab and was slinging it I would also turn them in. There are no absolutes for a case like that you just have to use judgment.
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 22, 2009 14:14:21 GMT -5
well yea, I guess if I saw a portable meth lab open up I'd feel obligated to report that. But I'd probably be sure to take a few pictures first for some good laughs later.
^You laugh but I have seen it before. Actually it was at Bonnaroo in 2006, nowhere near my camp though so I just left well enough alone. I heard they got themselves busted without any help later on. As to the H slinging, that generates 2 kinds of scenes, one is people quietly walking up and walking away all weekend. The other makes me scared to wear crocs because there are used needles on the ground by my site, and half my crap is missing. If it is the latter rather than the former I would not even mess with talking to them, I would just find a guy on a horse and quietly let them know.
I am by no means supporting narcing people out, I am just saying do not be afraid to use security if some uber shady people are causing trouble around you because you don't want to be a narc.
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 22, 2009 14:30:07 GMT -5
hahaha... Radiohead brings the strangest crowd to a festival
But seriously that is absolutely nuts. I don't think I ever would've expected to see that anywhere I go. I can agree that if someone's business is resulting in a dangerous area for me then I might feel the need to report them or wait until it appears everyone there is soberish and ask if they don't mind cleaning up the area a bit, but I've never even seen one needle lying on the ground ever at any festival so I guess I just find it hard to imagine ever happening. I'm sure it does though
I have never seen a needle myself either, and the situation has never come up where I felt obliged to do anything. I just don't want someone to put themselves in danger over fear of being seen as a narc. I have not seen H at a festivalor show since Phish way back in the day, and even then those people were pretty shunned by the scene, and did not tend to be real open about their habits. Unlike your everyday average corn farmer.
my biggest concern is simply this... if his friends KNOW it was smack, and they are certain this is the cause for his death.. Where the fuck were they, to just let their so-called "friend" die in a tent all alone?!