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Post by lordrockinhood on Jan 11, 2010 15:24:56 GMT -5
Paperless ticketing is the ONLY way
I work in ticketing and one of my biggest clients is a Digger... and when Miley Cyrus decided to go paperless last tour he called me SCREAMING and vented till he was blue in the face...
"+(^#@%&%$$*&$#^&&*&*%&%&!!ghhf%#^&%%^"
AC/DC did it for all of their floor tickets, Tom Waits does it, NIN, Springsteen's floor tix after the whole Ticketmaster debacle last Spring... there is NOTHING that pisses a Digger off more than a PAPERLESS TOUR
When I saw Chickenfoot at Irving Plaza we had to wait about 10 extra minutes to get into the venue while they matched up our ID's and checked us off lists... but it was worth it because while there were a lot of people looking for extra tickets outside, there were absolutely NO scalpers selling tickets on the street because when you need a license + credit card with YOUR name on it to get in, that poses a bit of a problem for the resellers market, huh? ;D
To me, whatever the minimal extra hassle is, it's no hassle at all if it guarantees that everyone inside is a fan who paid face value and not a penny more for the event...
If popular bands like Wilco are going to create their own hot tickets by playing tiny venues and such, they should really consider going this route.... email Jeff Tweedy and the band and state your complaints... then maybe next time around he too might think twice and help us all out?
I hate scalpers, but how do you get around it? I've been to a few small shows (Sufjan Stevens) where you had to show your id at the door and didnt get your ticket until you were walking in the venue, but it was a pain in the ass. I guess the only real way around it is for people to stop buying from scalper sites.
The manager of the Durham Performing Arts Center told me that Ticketmaster just tried out a "paperless ticketing system" in Greensboro. You buy your tickets online with your credit or debit card, and they swipe your card at the venue and their little scanner tells them how many tickets you have. That and will-call only tickets would be a huge kick in the ass to scalpers
Also, if you see a scalper listing the actual seat number, along with the section and row, you can report them to the venue and they'll revoke those tickets.
I was thinking about something this afternoon: is it ethical to steal from scalpers? I'm considering going the day of the show and seeing if I can get tix and if some guy refuses to sell them for face value, I don't feel that it'd be wrong to snatch them from him and run. Maybe drop a 20 on my way out. All he could do is kick your ass if he caught up to you. Not like he's gonna tell the cops on you. "I was selling these tickets for 10x face value and this guy wanted the original price and he took them from me"
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Their Bonnaroo show was one of my favorite shows of 2009. Can't wait to see them again.
Well, I went to TicketBastard, and they redirected me to LiveNation, which somehow manages to be even more dishonorable with their obscene mark-up rates. The cheapest tickets are $68 before tax and inconvenience fees, and it just goes up from there to $500. I'm still thinking of going though, just because the Orpheum is an extremely gorgeous venue and pretty intimate (I think 3000-ish capacity?), and to see Wilco in a setting like that would be a really special experience. I'll most likely end up going, because as much as it will suck to be broke for a couple weeks, it will suck even more to miss one of my favorite bands performing live.
EDIT: Actually, they're also playing in Hartford, CT and Concord, NH that same week, and tickets are a fraction of the price for those shows. Even though the theater might not be as nice or as intimate, I might go for one of those instead - though the Orpheum would be a phenomenal setting.
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Post by lordrockinhood on Jan 11, 2010 23:55:16 GMT -5
^^^ Jack it's up to you, but I just tried it for the Orpheum show and they are redirecting you to Live Nation which is "sold out" already so THEY are redirecting you to the broker site StubHub, whom I am sure Live Nation is partnered with in some way and supplying tickets to. It's very similar to how Ticketmaster redirected fans to their broker site TicketsNow last Spring for Bruce when those were "sold out" as soon as they went on sale. It's a viscious unethical circle that perpetuates the problem of the secondary market becoming primary and keeps the brokers winning.
If you Google the subject there are tons of articles
Can't wait for that Ticketmaster/LiveNation merger to go through, that should make things MUCH better for us all
More artists need to start taking a much greater interest/control over how their OWN tickets get sold to their fans, which I'm sure is not easy considering the corporate strangleholds and blacklisting that might come with retaliation. Not to mention the fact that the secondary market is currently controlled by mafia thugs.
^^^ Jack it's up to you, but I just tried it for the Orpheum show and they are redirecting you to Live Nation which is "sold out" already so THEY are redirecting you to the broker site StubHub, whom I am sure Live Nation is partnered with in some way and supplying tickets to. It's very similar to how Ticketmaster redirected fans to their broker site TicketsNow last Spring for Bruce when those were "sold out" as soon as they went on sale. It's a viscious unethical circle that perpetuates the problem of the secondary market becoming primary and keeps the brokers winning.
If you Google the subject there are tons of articles
Can't wait for that Ticketmaster/LiveNation merger to go through, that should make things MUCH better for us all
More artists need to start taking a much greater interest/control over how their OWN tickets get sold to their fans, which I'm sure is not easy considering the corporate strangleholds and blacklisting that might come with retaliation. Not to mention the fact that the secondary market is currently controlled by mafia thugs.
Yeah - I really, really hate the monopoly they have on the concert industry. You literally cannot buy tickets anywhere else except through sites affiliated with Ticketmaster, or second-hand through eBay or Craigslist. And they get to charge whatever the fuck they want, because they're the only option for getting a ticket, and live shows are really the only way for people in the music industry to make money in this age of illegal downloading.
I think Concord or Hartford are more likely. Most likely Hartford. Those tickets are reasonably priced ($35), it's on a Friday, and my girlfriend lives in that general area, so we might just go and make a weekend out of it.
Someone, somewhere, claimed there were tickets available on StubHub before they were onsale to the public. I'm not sure if it was before or after the presales, though. Is that even possible?
I'm with Bunny...don't scalp, don't buy from scalpers. If you want the cycle to end, you cannot be a part of it, ever.
Someone, somewhere, claimed there were tickets available on StubHub before they were onsale to the public. I'm not sure if it was before or after the presales, though. Is that even possible?
I've read stuff like that too elsewhere. People talking about the tickets selling out the minute they went on sale (similar to the Phish debacle).
Just (begrudgingly) went through StubHub to pick up tickets for Boston. Yes, yes, I know I mustn't feed the beast, and I really hate having to do so, but I couldn't help myself. Two tickets. Orchestra center. Less than 3000 capacity.
Just (begrudgingly) went through StubHub to pick up tickets for Boston. Yes, yes, I know I mustn't feed the beast, and I really hate having to do so, but I couldn't help myself. Two tickets. Orchestra center. Less than 3000 capacity.
I don't feel any shame towards you. I find it hard to get annoyed at someone who wants to see a band they love so badly. Almost all tickets to most shows were sold out from the beginning and that's primarily due to scalpers. You're not to blame for scalpers.......ticketmaster and the bands that sell tickets can figure out ways to avoid scalpers. The Dead Weather, Tom Waits, and many other bands have worked with paperless tickets and limits on the amount you want........other bands should start doing this.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Feb 15, 2010 12:38:37 GMT -5
*sigh*.............checking craigslist and stubhub makes me so upset. The shows I look at are selling tickets at $125 a piece. That's just ridiculous and I am really sad that I have to miss Wilco because they sold out so fast and are now cost double or triple what they originally were. Something needs to be done.
Why did they have to come on a Tuesday though. That's the busiest day of the week for me. I have class all day long - my last class gets out at 6:30. Doors are at 7:15, show starts at 8:00. And it takes half an hour to get there. I'm not even sure if I'll have time for dinner until afterwards.
I don't know about other cities, but it doesn't seem like there's an opening act for Boston. My tickets just say "An Evening with Wilco". Those shows are the best.
Post by lordrockinhood on May 11, 2010 11:32:02 GMT -5
^ Haha, I think the only two names I really know on that list are Jeff Tweedy and Taj Majal, but that would be a pretty kickass concert all on it's own
Post by insidejoke on May 18, 2010 16:34:28 GMT -5
<<After last summer's successful run of concerts in minor league ballparks on the east coast, Wilco will take the field again for their only remaining Midwest concert of 2010 at South Bend, Indiana’s Coveleski Ballpark on Friday, July 30. The concert features special guests Yo La Tengo, who performed with Wilco last summer at a sold out minor league stadium in Brooklyn, NY -- a show that provided some of our best memories of 2009, without a doubt. There is a pre-sale going on now here. The password is "silverhawks".
Tickets for the July 30 concert are on sale Saturday, May 15 at 12 noon EST/11 am CDT through Wilcoworld.net and etix.com. Tickets will also be available at the Coveleski Ballpark box office and by phone at 1-800-514-ETIX. Admission to the concert is free for children 4 and under. So pack up the grill and we'll see you in the parking lot.... gates open on show day at 5pm. Be there -- it's the last shot in the region for the year. >>
;D
because when you need a license + credit card with YOUR name on it to get in, that poses a bit of a problem for the resellers market, huh? ;D
