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Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Jan 13, 2010 19:14:32 GMT -5
This guy is a total ass, and really deserves nothing. If I were a high school coach I would do everything in my power to make sure none of my guys end up playing for Lane Kiffin, holy cows does he just piss me off.
Post by palebluedot on Jan 13, 2010 21:10:37 GMT -5
I just really do not understand what his appeal is. He has had virtually no success as a head coach. I understand his ties to USC and his impressive results as an OC under Carroll, but when considering the talented players that he had to work with during that time, you have to wonder how much credit he truly deserves. Furthermore, his dismal track record as a head coach makes me really question his credentials.
I just really do not understand what his appeal is. He has had virtually no success as a head coach. I understand his ties to USC and his impressive results as an OC under Carroll, but when considering the talented players that he had to work with during that time, you have to wonder how much credit he truly deserves. Furthermore, his dismal track record as a head coach makes me really question his credentials.
I know right. At this rate, after an 8-5 at USC, he will be offered a $50 million contract to coach Peyton Manning and the Colts...
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Jan 13, 2010 22:08:46 GMT -5
Sometimes Tressel-ball and the whole philosophy that goes with it looks pretty good...... I fully believe TN can find a better football coach than Lane Kiffin. Now Monte Kiffin and Ed Orgeron, those are some pretty damn good assistants.
Post by noeysasquatch on Jan 13, 2010 23:01:43 GMT -5
Lane Kiffin brings trouble wherever he goes. He was barely with TN before he was breaking NCAA rules and I don't think he's gonna be good for USC. He really betrayed TN, but at the same time i think they are better off without him.
Tennessee lost Monte, not Lane Kiffin. Without daddy, sonny boy doesn't get any decent DI job.
As for who they're going to get, I think Tennessee has the same problem in the SEC that A&M has in the Big 12. Fan expectation outweighs reality, so it's hard to get coaches who want to keep their jobs there a long time.
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Jan 17, 2010 18:52:08 GMT -5
^Already hired Derek Dooley, who from the sounds of it seems to be a pretty good hire to me. I expect him to be more successful than Kiffin would have.
Lane's an idiot, but his coaching staff was great. Dooley seems to have proven nothing thus far in his career.
Also, I would say it's a pretty dumb gamble to a young coach with clear ties to another major program right after hiring a young coach with clear ties to another major program. If Dooley does well, and Georgia cans Rich, what chance do you think Tennessee has of keeping Dooley?
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Post by awolfatthedoor on Jan 17, 2010 19:17:06 GMT -5
Wow UT is a way better program than A&M. It's not even close. If you would ask most unbiased people, then they would tell you that UT is a far superior program. And Georgia is not that much better than UT if at all. When was the last time Georgia won a title? Plus UT has more recently won the East.
And for all the hate that Lane got, and trust me I hate the little bitch, he appeared to be a first rate recruiter. I think college football is 85% recruiting and 15% coaching., and I think a coach has to be an amazing coach to actually bump the players up enough to compete out of their talent bracket.
Dooley seems to have proven nothing thus far in his career.
I dunno, he's proven that he can't win in the WAC. The SEC can't be much harder to get wins in, right?
I think it's arguable whether UT has a "better" program than UGA at this point in time. They have essentially the same number of SEC championships, with UT's last coming in 1998. UGA has won two SECCs since then. UT does have more national championships historically, with their last coming in 1998. UGA's last natl championship was way back in 1980, with a team coached by Vince Dooley, Derek's dad.
So it may not matter whether UGA is better or worse than UT. Dooley has strong family ties to UGA, and if they were to come calling, those ties might outweigh other factors.
the boyfriend was so hurt by kiffin's departure, but i just knew he would not stay. the boyfriend is a major fan so this hit him hard. hopefully dooley can turn the moral around.
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Jan 21, 2010 13:09:12 GMT -5
Dooley does have a better head coaching record than Lane, and coached an extra year basically. I believe he also went 8-5 one season and won a bowl game, which with LaTech is actually pretty impressive. The WAC may not be a major conference, but it isn't any longer a cake walk, either. Dooley is also responsible for recruiting a large part of LSU's 2003 and is a disciple of Nick Saban, a better mentor than Pete Carroll imo and has a bit of NFL experience as well. I really think Dooley is a good hire, plus, they get someone with AD experience, far less likely to accrue all the recruiting infractions Lane Kiffin did .
Dooley seems to have proven nothing thus far in his career.
I dunno, he's proven that he can't win in the WAC. The SEC can't be much harder to get wins in, right?
I think it's arguable whether UT has a "better" program than UGA at this point in time. They have essentially the same number of SEC championships, with UT's last coming in 1998. UGA has won two SECCs since then. UT does have more national championships historically, with their last coming in 1998. UGA's last natl championship was way back in 1980, with a team coached by Vince Dooley, Derek's dad.
So it may not matter whether UGA is better or worse than UT. Dooley has strong family ties to UGA, and if they were to come calling, those ties might outweigh other factors.
Post by nitetimeritetime on Jan 21, 2010 22:10:04 GMT -5
I hope he does ok at UT. As a Bama fan, I want UT to be good; it's more fun that way. But a 4-8 (3-5 WAC) record in his 3rd season doesn't scream 'qualified to run one of the top-15 cfb jobs.' The WAC is no cake walk, but 4 of the 9 teams managed to have winning records this year, and LA Tech wasn't one of them. And hey, the SEC is no cake walk either.
He does have good football roots, though, so maybe he'll end up doing alright. I think he's a better fit than Kiffin ever was, for whatever that's worth.
Post by luciddream5 on Feb 3, 2010 18:42:42 GMT -5
I think it's fair to say he didn't just fuck Knoxville...he fucked the whole state. It was silly the night he announced it...a bunch of people got together and "rioted". Not really a riot...i'm sure half the people just wanted to go wild.