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I thought of Colin Meloy, but then Sass said Elvis, and he's the only one who REALLY look slike Buddy Holly. There's even an Elvis Costello bootleg called Buddy Holly on Acid.
I like that!! Is there any way you could connect "on acid" to "jolly"?? Because that would be a simpler route to solve it by. He's be "Buddy" when you were "jolly (on acid)". I have no idea how to get here, though.
Yes I can. Merriam Webster defines "Jolly" as being "full of high spirits".
Could be "on acid". So Elvis is Buddy Holly when you're jolly (a.k.a. on acid)
I disagree that you don't need Jolly to get to Buddy Holly. There are lots of Buddies, and though a first instinct might be Buddy Holly, without clarifying it with the Jolly part, the clue would be too wide open. The only way you can say for sure it refers to Buddy Holly is by having the jolly be part of it.
I don't see DJJD giving a rhyme, especially for a name with a half-a-dozen "big" names. Guy, Miller...all a vast second place to Holly. I could see a reference to holiday greens (Holly), or something along those lines, but I can't recall a clue being so transparent.
Post by plasticpepper on Jan 21, 2010 0:23:58 GMT -5
Argh, wait, I have to retract a little of my enthusiasm for that guess.
enabler's right, I got distracted and sort of forgot, but I do think that logic doesn't really use "jolly" enough. While I'm sure using the word jolly is meant to make the clue into a pun, I still think it has to have another use.
Also, if you boil the entire clue down to Buddy Holly, then there's nothing in it that forces you to go through the Weezer path, so it would basically be like the clue is Buddy Holly and the answer is Elvis because he looks like him. Now it's TOO simple.
Post by viciouscircle on Jan 21, 2010 0:30:17 GMT -5
If we want to add jolly as a separate theme, I think Elvis is going to be on tour with the SUgarcanes. Buddy Holly leads to Elvis, Holly Jolly leads to CHristmas > candycanes/Sugarcanes.
And I don't think it's too transparent - like kdogg said, it took us 24 pages to get there. Look at the first clue - at the end the answer was totally simple - the most obvious Monkeys, The Monkees. The most obviously warm one, the guy with the wool hat. His name and the word son. It was hard to get there, but once there, you look back and go, Oh - DUH!
the first clue i messed with is this one and it's 24 pages long. so i balked at the idea that clue 3 could be solved in so few posts. hehe
back on topic - i think we might be focusing on the wrong parts. what about "WHEN". it seems to be the operative word. have we tried fooling with this portion? it brings 'jolly' into a new light.
i'm going to try and think about "when jolly" not just "jolly" i just cant accept that "when jolly" has anything to do with buddy holly. the buddy part, ok. but the WHEN changes the tone of jolly and can't be there by mistake.
elvis costello played last year, so im not sure he warrants a clue all to himself as a repeat performer, although i can sort of see the logic leading to him.
people have brought up my "eat my shoe" comment a couple of times. just to clarify, i cant stand weezer and would never ever never try to drop a reference to anything in their lyrics. jug had said "if it's not alberta cross i'll buy myself a beer" and that made DJJD respond, so i was just trying to get a similar thumbs up/down response out of him. i didn't even know there was such a lyric that i was getting close to. i don't care if weezer comes or not, because if they do, i know tons of ppl will turn out for that show, leaving me ample room at an act that doesn't hit my musical gag reflex.
If we want to add jolly as a separate theme, I think Elvis is going to be on tour with the SUgarcanes. Buddy Holly leads to Elvis, Holly Jolly leads to CHristmas > candycanes/Sugarcanes.
And I don't think it's too transparent - like kdogg said, it took us 24 pages to get there. Look at the first clue - at the end the answer was totally simple - the most obvious Monkeys, The Monkees. The most obviously warm one, the guy with the wool hat. His name and the word son. It was hard to get there, but once there, you look back and go, Oh - DUH!
Ooooh, fancy. I was just wondering who he'd be with--he was alone last year except when he sang with Jenny Lewis. This works really well. Genius, I tell you! I have a really good feeling about this answer.
Oh, and I concur that Cake is totally the answer to 2. If not I'm gonna be piiiiiiissed--I love the band AND the snack!
Post by plasticpepper on Jan 21, 2010 0:48:49 GMT -5
I'm just looking forward to tomorrow so maybe we can get some feedback on this and #3. It's like with both clues we've sort of reached a standstill, we're not really moving anywhere anymore.
I've pretty much completely changed my mind about Elvis Costello and I just can't see that being the answer now, at least not using the logic we've currently got. With only three words in the clue I can't believe we're meant to spend them all in one place!
(And I don't really buy the "Buddy Holly on Acid" idea either. "Buddy when jolly" to "Buddy (Holly) on Acid" is just way too simple. If he wanted us to get to "Buddy Holly on Acid" he wouldn't have used the word Buddy in the clue.
okay so i started to wonder when we will be hearing from djjd for another hint or some desperately needed steering in the right direction.
based on his recent inforoo posts, i've determined that he never posts before noon or after 11pm. the same is true for his twitter.
so, i'm going to come back around noon and start haunting and waiting tp hear what djjd has to say. maybe i'll have a fresh perspective once i've slept on it.
EDIT: is djjd a radio dj? i remember hearing that these clues actually come from a radio show. anyway the noon-11p makes sense for a daytime or a night dj, with that time being either on-air or at home after work.