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oh.... well shit. I guess he was the inspector.

DAMMIT CHEIF! NEVER COME OUT UNTIL YOU HAVE TWO NAMES!

quite honestly, i have no idea what to think at this point.

i'm still wanting to revisit the fact that both bama and higgi voted for me in the first round before chief had even returned his vote for me. i'm not sure that both of them are mafia(unless there was some mix-up in who was voting for whom), but perhaps one of them are, and voted for me before seeing the other's vote? i don't know. i just feel like they've both been a little too quiet for my taste.

Copypasta all previous votes for reference.

Day One, first vote


Day One runoff, part one: kdogg/Wolf/Jen

^ Timed out, leaving Wolf & kdogg

Day One runoff, part deux: kdogg vs. Wolf


Night One whack: HGH

Day Two, first vote


Night Two whack: Chief

Hopefully we can make something of this.

A few things I'm seeing as I look to the votes.

Day One, first vote. Voting with NTRT to send Wolf into the runoff:
Bacon
Bama

Since NTRT cast the very first vote for Wolf, I will presume Wolf innocent.
Wolf had jumped in and voted NTRT after NTRT >>> Bacon, preempting Bacon from reciprocating NTRT's vote. I think we can understand why Mafia would be a little upset over this if NTRT was Mafia... Wolf's vote suggested to Mafia that he might be the Inspector. That would explain why Wolf was targeted in the voting.
It might also explain why Bacon & NTRT originally voted for one another before they both decided on Wolf.

Voting against Wolf in Day One runoff:
NTRT, HGH, Bacon, Bama, Hippie, kdogg
Wolf was killed off by one vote, which leads me to suspect that there are at least two Mafia names in this list.

HGH then got whacked. She had voted for Jen (in first vote) and Wolf (in runoffs).
If the Mafia was targeting Wolf, then Wolf was probably not one of the Mafia. If Wolf was not one of the Mafia, there is only one other possible HGH vote which would have aroused Mafia suspicions: Jenkazoo.
There is the possibility that Mafia whacked a player who voted for none of them... although I personally find it unlikely a Mafia wouldn't at least try to kill an Inspector.

These are exactly the kinds of things I'm talking about when I say we haven't properly concluded looking into the HGH whack...

All that sticks out to me in Day Two so far is this:
When it became apparent a Chief-NTRT runoff would not work out in NTRT's favor, the vote overwhelmingly swung towards NTRT.
Two players switched from Chief >>> NTRT: Bacon & Jen.
Higgi claimed he wanted a runoff and did the inverse, an NTRT >>> Chief switch.
In the interest of full disclosure, I also switched: Chief >>> null >>> Jen
Not sure what to make of those votes... pointing them out because they stick out to me.

negative, i voted you in kel's absence.. i mean c'mon, i have to vote for you at least once a game just to piss you off ahaha

i didn't read anything before posting, and after looking back you had only ONE vote when I voted you. You're assuming Chief would reciprocate your vote when in actuality HE NEVER VOTED YOU. He voted for Jen.

So now I am wondering why you would bring up something that clearly had no bearing, because BAMA changed her vote to WOLF anyways?!

This, to me, seriously makes it look as if you are really, really trying to make me look guilty...

So, for these reasons your on top of my suspicion list.

Higgi -- Hippie

it was the first round, there was nothing to read. Thanks though, for trying to make me look stupid.

btw, i'd also like to point out that kel called out jen for not reading the posts fully last time, and she was also mafia. mafia doesn't necessarily NEED to read everything fully, or completely, because most of the time they'll have their own agenda ahead of time.

also, i'm not willing to let the idea that just because someone was mafia X amount of times makes them innocent now. random is just that...RANDOM. i'm not necessarily pointing fingers, but bama has also been pretty adament in making sure we know jen has been mafia before so she probably couldn't be now. cover up?

i think you're getting a bit too defensive there, champ. i said i think it's stupid to not read before you post who you think should die. i never called YOU stupid.

and if you think me calling into question people voting for me before i'd even gotten my reciprocal vote, then i think it makes YOU look guilty. last game proved that mafia is more than happy to stack votes before the presumed reciprocal vote is cast. i was right then, and seeing how defensive you're getting now seems to speak the same of you.

edit: you also have been extremely quiet up to this point. funny that since you are now being pointed out as being suspicious you finally start to speak up.

i'm not being defensive and my first round voting was no different than any game I play, I chose a person I've played with plenty of times and without my normal Kel vote chose you. You're reading into it far too deep.

for the past 3-4 games i've been quiet and i've been a townsperson every time.. you shouldn't compare my game play with others', because as most of us all know, I am not the most traditional player.

Hippie, I'ma let you finish... but Bacon was the best fake Inspector of all time!

well, personally i don't see how me pointing out what could very easily be suspicious behavior makes ME guilty. if we're going by that logic, EVERYONE is guilty.

however, i also don't have you as my number one or anything. i DO think we killed a mafia member with NTRT, and i'm honestly much more suspicious of bama, mostly based on the fact that she seems so willing to make jen out to be innocent. which also leads me to think jen could be guilty, though i don't think there's much evidence thus far to say that for sure. at first i thought maybe bama was inspector because she was trying to clear jen so much with the probability thing. now i think chief was telling the truth.

I don't typically double-post but I'm on a super boring conference call and I don't like being ganged-up on



I don't know why you are suspicious of me. The only reason I have believed that jen is innocent is that she has been mafia TWICE and statistically, it's really unlikely for her to get chosen a third time. And I really feel like whacking HGH right after HGH voted for jen makes it WAY TOO OBVIOUS. Why would a mafia member give themselves away like that?

Mafia is a game of subtleties. I am just worried we are getting sent into a wild goose chase with jen, and I think it's counterproductive to us. I think we went the right way with NTRT.

I will tell ya'll again...I'm innocent. The HGH's thing is weird but when this game ends you will all see that it had nothing to do with me being guilty and everything to do with the Mafia wanting to give you someone to target.


Bama has no reason to defend me in this game especially after I called her out in round one as being an option besides Bacon to be working with Chief. I don't know how many times I said it but she looked guilty to me and I made no effort to hide that fact. Kdogg keeps pushing the fact that the selection was random but even in random selection the odds that I would be selected three times in a row are low. He wants to say that he was Mafia last round as well and asking why those odds aren't as unlikely as mine....well there is a difference between 3 in a row and 2 in a row. I'm the farthest from a mathmatician as you can get and can barely multiply and divide but I do understand this concept. That said: I'll be the first to admit that it is not impossible to be Mafia three times in a row.

I still have a nagging feeling about a Kdogg/Chief Mafia set-up but unless HGH was their third Mafia member I see no reason they would whack Chief. Look how catastrophic it was for us last round. It was a last ditch effort at that point and I don't see the Mafia in such a tough position right now. So my theory about Kdogg and Chief makes no sense and I don't feel like pushing it will pan out well.

All I really have to go on is that Chief is the only one who has come out as inspector. If there is a true living inspector they would have surely come out by now with whatever named they asked about last night....and that hasn't happened. The only other possibility is that HGH was inspector and there is nothing to imply that she was.


I know Kdogg is trying to make sense of the relationship between HGH's vote for me and her death but it is not associated with my guilt. It looks like they decided to make me the look like Mafia by killing HGH....the person who voted for me....I had two votes and would be a good choice to force suspicion on.

I really want to give Kdogg a break since I am pretty sure now that I was wrong about Chief...but as long as you are pointing finegrs at me and not at least considering the above scenario about the realtionship of HGH's vote/whack I'll be forced to look at him with guilt since I know I am a townsperson. I know that I can say I am a townsperson until the cows come home but its the truth.

So I am going to vote for Bacon since Chief was going to ask about him....but I still feel like we are being played somehow.

Jen>>>Bacon