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Post by noeysasquatch on Sept 28, 2011 13:31:22 GMT -5
You don't gotta get all salty, it's just a difference of opinion. 2 years in a row the Mets led the NL East in September and played solid baseball up until the month of September and then faltered missing the playoffs, so I call that the Mets collapsing. In 08 Beltran talked smack before the season started and they added Santana and once again they fell apart in September. For this reason I don't hate the Mets, I love the Mets.
Post by flanzonyc on Sept 28, 2011 14:35:09 GMT -5
Oh trust me bud, not getting salty in the least. I don't pound my chest about the Mets, because as one of the 6 Mets fans left in this country, I readily admit they're a joke.
But I don't know how it can be considered a collapse when they went back-and-forth with the eventual World Series champs.
I know you Philthy Phaithful love to slam the Mets, but at least be accurate.
Fighting a team for 6 months and not beating them, when no team had a clear edge at any point in the year, isn't a collapse. It's baseball. Philly led that division the entire season except for the end of August until the middle of September, btw.
Oh trust me bud, not getting salty in the least. I don't pound my chest about the Mets, because as one of the 6 Mets fans left in this country, I readily admit they're a joke.
But I don't know how it can be considered a collapse when they went back-and-forth with the eventual World Series champs.
I know you Philthy Phaithful love to slam the Mets, but at least be accurate.
Fighting a team for 6 months and not beating them, when no team had a clear edge at any point in the year, isn't a collapse. It's baseball. Philly led that division the entire season except for the end of August until the middle of September, btw.
They led in late July too. They collapsed two years in a row. They had their shot to take the division in '08 and blew it, that's a collapse. It wasn't as bad as '07, but it was pretty embarrassing.
You can see the effect it had on the team in the following years, as those back-to-back collapses pretty much ruined a playoff contender.
Post by flanzonyc on Sept 28, 2011 15:49:59 GMT -5
Maybe someone that doesn't blindly hate the Mets should weigh-in.
But I refuse to think that losing a 3.5 game lead with 20 games left is a "collapse".
Losing an 8.5 game lead with 20-something games remaining? Collapse. Losing a 7.5 game lead with 17 remaining? Collapse. Losing a 6.5 game lead with 12 remaining? Collapse.
Losing a 3.5 game lead with 18 left? I don't see that in the same league as a "collapse". They lost. That happens every season. They didn't "collapse" because they were simply trying to outrun a very good team (one that won a World Series) and couldn't keep pace.
And while they lead in July for less than a week, I think that hardly means they had a grip on first place. The Phillies were in first place for, basically, all but 3 weeks of the season. It was always their division to lose, not the Mets'.
Post by flanzonyc on Sept 28, 2011 15:53:54 GMT -5
And let's leave the poor fans out of this, especially when the first guy anyone thinks of when you say "Phillies" and "fans" in the same sentence is this idiot:
Thank you, Dodgers! Assuming Arizona can't score 5 in the bottom of the 10th the Brewers will have homefield advantage in the first round.
Now just win tomorrow (and possibly Thursday), Braves, so the Brewers can face your injury depleted donkeys instead of the Diamondbacks.
What a great post ;D
It was awesome I was up in Phoenix seeing Jason Isbell and from where I was I could turn around and easily see a TV at the bar that had the game on. Just as they started playing "Like A Hurricane" I turned around just in time to see Roberts hit the HR and then I jammed out to the rest of the song with a huge grin on my face.
Awesome big fly by Johnson to save the Rays' season. Amazing night of baeball. And Corey Wade ain't exactly a Yankee scrub. That was clutch. And I say that as a Yankee fan - in case you haven't figured that part out.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Sept 28, 2011 21:57:24 GMT -5
This may have been a brilliant move by Girardi. They just blew a 7 run lead because he played all of the scrubs. However, Boston is only up by 1 and if they lose but TB wins, Boston is shut out of the post season. Or, if they both win, they have to play each other tomorrow and it will fuck up their rotation for the first game of the post season.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I love the Rays' broadcast saying that Farnsworth was a former "Yankee great". I always kind of looked at him as a Yaneek bust. Kind of like Soriano. You fish and sometimes you hook a throwback. Looking at you, Soriano.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.