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The NFL owners voted to change an element in the overtime rule, giving a possession to the team that loses the coin toss at the start of OT if the team that wins the coin toss scores a field goal with its first possession. The proposal passed 28-4. As it is written, the rules change applies just for the postseason, but the owners also decided to discuss adopting the changes for the regular season at their next meeting, in May in Dallas.
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New postseason overtime rules
• Both teams must have the opportunity to possess the ball once during the extra period, unless the team that receives the opening kickoff scores a touchdown on its initial possession, in which case it is the winner.
• If the team that possesses the ball first scores a field goal on its initial possession, the other team shall have the opportunity to possess the ball. If [that team] scores a touchdown on its possession, it is the winner. If the score is tied after [both teams have a] possession, the team next scoring by any method shall be the winner.
• If the score is tied at the end of a 15-minute overtime period, or if [the overtime period's] initial possession has not ended, another overtime period will begin, and play will continue until a score is made, regardless of how many 15-minute periods are necessary.
This passed 28-4 among the owners. Curiously the Vikings, who would have benefited from this rule in the post-season, voted against it.
Am I alone in wondering why they can't just have another fifteen minute fifth quarter all season long?
Don't get me wrong, I'm for changes to some of those rules...
I just think this particular change is kind of narrowly applied and I'm not too hot on the conditions.
I think that if the rule had to change, it might as well have been something applying to all games at all times. They changed this rule because they noticed a connection between winning the OT coin flip and winning the game. If they're trying to separate possession of the ball from the outcome of the game, why center the new rule around possession of the ball? Just give 'em another 15 minutes to settle things, and I'd think the better team would still come out on top.
It's a bit of a weird fix, I thought if they would change it then they would just apply the college system.
And the problem with adding another 15 minutes is the players union. If you increase their playing time, they'll want a pay raise, and that's no bueno with the current CBA fiasco.
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Mar 27, 2010 14:53:16 GMT -5
There is a still a competition committee meeting before the season starts where this could be changed to cover the whole season. I am a fan of the new rule, its definitely better than the old. People don't want to watch an overtime game where Peyton Manning doesn't even touch the ball.
Post by FuzzyWarbles on Mar 27, 2010 15:45:42 GMT -5
I like this rule because it makes it where the kicker isn't necessarily going to decide the game.A team can't win the toss,drive 40 yards,kick a field goal and win the game.It gives a team incentive to drive for a TD. Also,I hate the college overtime system.
Post by pondo ROCKS on Mar 27, 2010 15:45:56 GMT -5
Since I am a Vikings fan ( I was the age of 4 when I first discovered my dads favorite football team) , I am for this rule (esp. after the way the Saints "won" the overtime thriller, I say "won" because the refs missed two calls on the overtime drive and the NFL issued a letter to the Vikings front office confirming calls MAY have been missed during the game).
For the LIFE of me I cannot understand why the Vikes voted AGAINST this rule change!!!!!!! Another "great" move by our upper management!!!
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Don't get me wrong, I'm for changes to some of those rules...
I just think this particular change is kind of narrowly applied and I'm not too hot on the conditions.
I think that if the rule had to change, it might as well have been something applying to all games at all times. They changed this rule because they noticed a connection between winning the OT coin flip and winning the game. If they're trying to separate possession of the ball from the outcome of the game, why center the new rule around possession of the ball? Just give 'em another 15 minutes to settle things, and I'd think the better team would still come out on top.
A lot of people call this the Brett Favre rule now.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm for changes to some of those rules...
I just think this particular change is kind of narrowly applied and I'm not too hot on the conditions.
I think that if the rule had to change, it might as well have been something applying to all games at all times. They changed this rule because they noticed a connection between winning the OT coin flip and winning the game. If they're trying to separate possession of the ball from the outcome of the game, why center the new rule around possession of the ball? Just give 'em another 15 minutes to settle things, and I'd think the better team would still come out on top.
A lot of people call this the Brett Favre rule now.
How many points is an interception gonna be worth?
Those against the extra period say that it is not physically possible to play the following week if you've had to play an extra period, or at the very least you will be at a serious disadvantage. I normally stick up for football players at being real athletes but that's the one thing that has always bugged me about the sport is that they cannot play more than one game a week. Baseball teams sometimes play two games in a day. Golfers play 18 holes three or four days in a row in a tournament. Hockey players play three or four games a week with back-to-back games a regular occurrance. I don't pay any attention to the NBA but it seems that their schedules are pretty similar to the NHL. I don't buy that football is sooo much tougher to recover from than every other sport.
I get the argument that the college football rule creates an artificial scenario by eliminating special teams.
So, I understand how they came to this compromise. I don't agree with only applying it to the playoffs, though. As one coach said, a week fifteen or sixteen game often has the importance of a playoff game. And, in reality, every win or loss is crucial when you are only playing sixteen games; it is really the difference between being a wildcard and watching from home.
I'm not sure what Minnesota's thining behind not voting for the measure. My Bills also voted against it on the coach's recommendation. He didn't want to have to coach one way during the regular season and a different way in the playoffs. (I don't know that it's anything he'll need to worry about in the next couple of years, though.) I'm not sure who the other no votes are. (If I had to guess I'd go with Cleveland and Jacksonville since they are often similarly minded with Buffalo.)
The Buffalo Bills, Minnesota Vikings, Baltimore Ravens and Cincinnati Bengals voted against the proposal.
I had initially seen this in the newspaper, which included a quote from the Vikings owner. Something along the lines of not necessarily being against this rule, but favoring its equal application at all points of the season. Sounded like he would've voted for the proposal, had it been for the entire season.
I'd be fine with eliminating ties altogether... who's gonna notice, Donovan McNabb?
I think that overall it sounds like a reasonable change, but feel that it should apply throughout the season.
and I think the Vikings got royally ripped off by the refs in the NFC championship game. Sure, a bad call is liable to occur every so often, but there was an overabundance of bad officiating in the game, in my opinion.
I think that overall it sounds like a reasonable change, but feel that it should apply throughout the season.
and I think the Vikings got royally ripped off by the refs in the NFC championship game. Sure, a bad call is liable to occur every so often, but there was an overabundance of bad officiating in the game, in my opinion.
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Post by popsicle sarah on Mar 29, 2010 15:09:06 GMT -5
HELL YEAH! This is definitely a step in the right direction. Everyone has hated the OT rules forever, but they never seemed willing to do anything about it. I agree that it needs to apply to the whole season. There's no worse feeling than your favorite team losing because of a coin toss. (And it feels kinda cheap for your team to win because of a coin toss).
After thinking about this for awhile, I think I actually prefer it over college OT rules. It really pushes the team that wins the toss to score a touchdown, which will make OT games very exciting!
I think that overall it sounds like a reasonable change, but feel that it should apply throughout the season.
and I think the Vikings got royally ripped off by the refs in the NFC championship game. Sure, a bad call is liable to occur every so often, but there was an overabundance of bad officiating in the game, in my opinion.
It really pushes the team that wins the toss to score a touchdown, which will make OT games very exciting!
worded very well. Right now whoever wins the toss just has to drive down to the 25-30 or so depending on who's wearing the golden boot. No motivation whatsoever to get within the other teams red zone. It definitely encourages underachieving on the part of the toss winner.
