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i dont have a ticket yet pleas family help me i cant work again jim tobin is already trying to arrest me but i wont do any thing wrong i love you family and hope to meet all you when it starts im sleeping at walmart or behind it and will be here until the show if any one can help me please and many blessings to all you i love you lots
Post by LucyRoo & AdamToo on Jun 6, 2007 12:28:51 GMT -5
I think this is just some troll trying to get to rant and rave for no reason. Just a guess, till I hear different from someone who actually knows, thats what I believe.
Post by phishinalong on Jun 6, 2007 12:46:37 GMT -5
who else is with me here? i work for a living and i save ALL year so that I can come to Roo each year. my suggestion to Kramer is to.......get a job? come on! Ive been saving since last roo just to be able to go again this year. I mean how hard is it to come up with 200 bucks? this guy got miracled last year, and that was great, but you have had 12 months to get your shit together kramer......what gives?
Come on peoples, we have been over this. It's easy to say "get a job". It would be an understatment to say he lives a very different lifestyle than most. Highlighting that lifestyle is not working, he chooses not to work. He asked us for a ticket, he did not demand one. I don't think he is looking for life advice. Let him live how he wants, if he gets in, great! If he doesn't....oh well.
No explanation needed! Why the heck cant the people who disagree with this, just stay the hell out of this thread??? I dont understand where all of you get off. We are fully aware of the faction of inforooers who share the same "get a job" sentiment. FINE!!! Thats the way you feel, go the hell away and feel that way to yourself. Why Oh Why must you folks continue to come back into this (and other) threads, just to post "get a job" or whatever.
JUST GO AWAY!!!! STOP POSTING IN THESE THREADS!!! WE GET IT, YOU DISAGREE WITH THE IDEA OF GIVING TO A LAZY HIPPY BUM, FINE, just quit fvcking coming into these threads and telling everyone!!!
somebody needs to calm down. (I'm not saying I disagree, though.)
We went through the same shlt last year O.... I just get sick of hearing the same ol crap over and over.....Do these people think we need to be reminded every 10 minutes that Kramer is a hippy bum who needs to get a job? that has been clearly established, those who chose to help him anyway, dont need thier crap!
Post by ellisintransit on Jun 6, 2007 13:04:14 GMT -5
Yup...that was me. Your post made me think better. Sometimes I get riled up over stuff like this. Sometimes it's also better to let it be than to try to start some witch hunt, so I deleted and am now leaving this thread because it displeases me so. I hate all the bullshit that gets started, and I actually fell into it for a moment.
Post by oleander124 on Jun 6, 2007 13:05:56 GMT -5
dmbfanintn said:
oleander124 said:
somebody needs to calm down. (I'm not saying I disagree, though.)
We went through the same shlt last year O.... I just get sick of hearing the same ol crap over and over.....Do these people think we need to be reminded every 10 minutes that Kramer is a hippy bum who needs to get a job? that has been clearly established, those who chose to help him anyway, dont need thier crap!
I know. I hope you didn't take that as an attack. I agree that people don't need to express their opinion AGAIN if they don't want to help out. However, they have a right to express that opinion as long as they are not insulting or demeaning to Kramer, which is a close call giving a "simple" solution by telling him to just "go get a job". I know it's difficult to get a job, but I also believe it's freeloading to ask two years in a row when there's been time to find the money in other ways rather than getting a regular job.
Post by phishinalong on Jun 6, 2007 13:07:36 GMT -5
i stand by what i said. freedom of speech fellas. if ya dont like it......TOO BAD that is my opinion. and just cause you are a hippy doesnt mean you dont work.........and the good folks at roo give those that dont have $ to waste the opportunity to volunteer every year
Post by steveternal on Jun 6, 2007 13:16:27 GMT -5
I'd just like to say that I don't see why the fact that some of you (especially you mods) know Kramer should change the way we regard his actions. Just imagine that this was a total stranger to all of us, a Joe Schmoe who registered an account on Inforoo and the FIRST THING he does is not to say hi or to welcome himself, or to get involved with this community, but instead to start a thread asking people to help him get a ticket (which could mean a million different things anyway). The second thing he does is start another, almost identical thread again asking for people to help him. This hypothetical stranger would not get far at all around here acting like that, and yet Kramer is being defended by the mods! I'm not at all trying to defend any aggressive actions against Kramer, but certainly people should have the right to express their thoughts and opinions on the matter that he's brought up. A genuinely helpful suggestion to get a job and pay his own way for his ticket cannot reasonably be considered out of line... again, if it's done without unnecessary aggression. That's all I'm trying to say.
He is not a stranger. Why would you chime in on a thread about helping someone to say I don't want to help. Thats like going into the Tool thread to say I hate Tool. Why? On top of that the negative comments have been nasty....not just comments.
Post by steveternal on Jun 6, 2007 13:26:53 GMT -5
knoxville said:
He is not a stranger.
With all due respect, precisely my point is that I don't think the fact that he isn't a stranger should change anything. Why do you think it does? And as I also said, I'm not defending any of the aggressive comments. Insulting someone is not helpful. However many people who are very bothered by what's going on feel as though they are being told they can't express any dissenting opinion, which isn't just.
EDIT: \/\/\/ VERY well put, I agree with that idea.
Post by oleander124 on Jun 6, 2007 13:30:14 GMT -5
I don't think anything has been told as to what his particular situation is. I don't give money to something I'm not sure about. I wasn't on these boards a year ago.
Instead of getting mad at people who don't want to give their money away, why don't you who do know him explain what the situation is?
What I don't understand is how one person manages to rile the calmest of the calm folks on this board and put people at odds so much with one another. It seems to be in the anti-roo spirit of things. Can't we all just get along?
here it goes again. 
