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See, the problem is that you're thinking of "drawing power" only in terms of being a big, commercially popular, universal name. And that's a poor way to think. Don't think about bands that appeal to a wide audience in general, but think about bands that appeal to the type of music fan most likely to go to Bonnaroo. Three years ago, MMJ played a late night set that drew what, 35-40K to their tent? Arcade Fire headlined Lollapalooza last year, is headlining Coachella this year, has a ton of buzz both in terms of having a new record that sold well, plus is up for a number of Grammy awards - they're much bigger now than they were last year. And among the type of person who would faithfully go to a festival like Bonnaroo, those are huge names. Pairing them together, back to back, on the same night, is bigger for many people than Kings of Leon or Phish or the Police.
So whether or not they have "drawing power," well, you can debate that when the fest is over and the tickets have been counted. Other than that, there's not much to say here, because it's happening.
Just don't think that MMJ/Arcade Fire has the same drawing power of Jay-Z/Stevie Wonder or Kings of Leon or Phish or Springsteen or The Police or Pearl Jam or Metallica or other more mainstream acts that have been going on the What Stage as headliners in recent years.
Arcade Fire headlined the smaller stage at Lollapalooza last year. MMJ played a late night set at Roo two years ago. to me, that doesn't = headlining on one of the big nights.
MMJ are basically the kings of Bonnaroo. anything else goes out the window. It'll be Arcade Fire headlining with MMJ late night Which. and it'll be awesome.
I think MMJ is more likely for a Which Stage four hour marathon like last time than headlining the main stage... I don't think they are big enough of a draw for the main stage, either.
Insider already confirmed that it's either MMJ> Arcade Fire or Arcade Fire > MMJ on the What Stage, Friday night. Sorry that doesn't fit with your esteemed opinion about how big of a draw they are.
thats not necessarily true, all she said is that they were the 2 "prime-time" acts on Friday night. I would say a LN stage set on What or Which by MMJ would be considered a "prime-time" set.
i hope youre right though, Juggs, and it would make sense as it's the only way they could give MMJ an "upgrade" without making them a headliner. just sayin', she didnt really confirm that they would be playing on What
Post by Alberto Balsalm on Feb 4, 2011 16:28:24 GMT -5
she said "one after the other" in response to a question asking her if they would conflict or not. so all she was saying was that they would not conflict, and would be playing at separate times. this would be the case if it were the usual headliner>late night which set-up, she never specified anything about stages.
Post by Laggy.RETURNS on Feb 4, 2011 20:04:29 GMT -5
Ok so I'm new to MMJ... everyone loves them. Heard very little but didn't feel into it. But I WANT to like them. Giving them another chance. Where should I start? Best starter album?
Ok so I'm new to MMJ... everyone loves them. Heard very little but didn't feel into it. But I WANT to like them. Giving them another chance. Where should I start? Best starter album?
I'd recommend starting off with It Still Moves and then Z.
I think MMJ is more likely for a Which Stage four hour marathon like last time than headlining the main stage... I don't think they are big enough of a draw for the main stage, either.
Insider already confirmed that it's either MMJ> Arcade Fire or Arcade Fire > MMJ on the What Stage, Friday night. Sorry that doesn't fit with your esteemed opinion about how big of a draw they are.
I hope you are right, Juggs, but insider hasn't yet confirmed that they'd both be on the What Stage. She was careful to state that the six acts she'll be giving us are the "prime-time" acts on the bill; not all of them will necessarily be playing What. I wouldn't be entirely shocked to see AF play What and MMJ play Which shortly afterwards.
I'm pretty sure this was the very 1st song I ever heard them play, wandering my first Bonnaroo latenight in 2006. No clue who they were, I heard it in the distance, and it pulled me in like a magnet. I've been stuck ever since.
Ok so I'm new to MMJ... everyone loves them. Heard very little but didn't feel into it. But I WANT to like them. Giving them another chance. Where should I start? Best starter album?
I'd recommend starting off with It Still Moves and then Z.
Post by Laggy.RETURNS on Feb 4, 2011 21:48:32 GMT -5
Listening to Okonokos right now... Actually really digging it.... I get why everyone says they stand out more live. See, I can understand the hype for MMJ on these boards, but still don't get Arcade fire. They're next up for another chance though.
Listening to Okonokos right now... Actually really digging it.... I get why everyone says they stand out more live. See, I can understand the hype for MMJ on these boards, but still don't get Arcade fire. They're next up for another chance though.
Don't start with that video. Win's voice sounds awful in that clip for some reason. They're not like MMJ, you can listen to their records and "get it," so, you should start with Funeral. IMO.
Don't start with that video. Win's voice sounds awful in that clip for some reason. They're not like MMJ, you can listen to their records and "get it," so, you should start with Funeral. IMO.
It's all about the passion with AF. Ya gotta understand that first and I think this video does a good job of conveying that emotion.
Not that you can't hear it live (AF was responsible for my #1 show of last year), I just personally don't think that particular clip does their live show justice. That's all I'm sayin', laggy.
Listening to Okonokos right now... Actually really digging it.... I get why everyone says they stand out more live. See, I can understand the hype for MMJ on these boards, but still don't get Arcade fire. They're next up for another chance though.
Start here.
My honest initial reaction to this video: Definitely gave me a better impression of them. Looked and sounded way more lively than my impression of the tracks I remember from the suburbs (which is all I've heard by them so far, only once in entirety, and a few other tracks here and there).
I can see myself getting into them, and I'd def check them out at roo (esp if theyre unopposed). That said, I still don't understand the overwhelming "OMG GREATEST EVAR" accolades they get. Perhaps if I get into them I'll come to understand (but I'm doubting it)
p.s. just downloaded funeral. Once I get my fill of MMJ I'll start checking it out
Wow. We're getting this at Bonnaroo this year. quack yeah.
Yeah, I've been pumped all day!
I remember us all talking about them possible playing back to back way back in the summer. It was in the old headliner thread. I never could convinced myself it would happen.
quack yes!
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am i the only one who wants the quacking flaming lips! my friend said there performance last year forever changed his life
Due to conflicts i caught like 10 min and it was amazing. got a chance to see them a few months later and it was arguably the best show i saw all year. I'd have them back in a second but its not gonna happen again so soon. And people in here complain about them doing the same show over again. But I'd see it again in a second. It's like a good movie you only saw once and loved and it's like 'i gotta see this again'
Post by frankthezappa on Feb 4, 2011 23:53:09 GMT -5
am i the only one who wants the flaming lips at roo again..theyd make a great saturday pre-headliner or headliner id love to hear the soft bullitin in its entirity.id really love to see the mars volta again they are comming out with a new album in the late spring maybe theyll debut the new album at roo!
am i the only one who wants the quacking flaming lips! my friend said there performance last year forever changed his life
Due to conflicts i caught like 10 min and it was amazing. got a chance to see them a few months later and it was arguably the best show i saw all year. I'd have them back in a second but its not gonna happen again so soon. And people in here complain about them doing the same show over again. But I'd see it again in a second. It's like a good movie you only saw once and loved and it's like 'i gotta see this again'
In my experience with this band, I've always found each show to basically be the same. At one of the dates I caught them on Wayne even decided to play "do you realize" multiple times in one night. No one really even seemed to notice...
On a side note I saw Wayne recently at a tame impala show. I didn't want to be the add hole to bother him and ruin his night but by the time I considered speaking to him, 200 other ass holes had already surrounded him. Tame impala did kick some serious booty.