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Post by macmusicjunkie on Jun 15, 2010 0:37:20 GMT -5
I had a great Bonnaroo overall, but there were some things I thought that needed some serious improvement.
1.) The Traffic - This was absolutely ridiculous! This needs to be addressed immediately!!! I understand, there's alot of people trying to cram into one field at one time. I know there's going to be traffic, but there's no excuse for the line being dead stopped for over two hours! Bonnaroo and the police dept. needs to get their s**t together and get things moving. Drukqs aren't the first priority. Get the paying customers into their campsites.
Also, cutting in line off the interstate needs to stop. Either pull over the line cutters or set up cones along the emergency lane. Cutting slows down traffic and makes everyone waiting patiently angry. THE TRAFFIC IS A MAJOR PROBLEM!!!
2.) The Lunar Stage - It was WAY too loud. It was easily twice as loud as any other tent. I could hear it clearly from the opposite end of centeroo. I love electronic music and loved the idea when it was announced, but it didn't work. It effected all the shows in This Tent and The Other Tent. If they bring it back next year (which I hope they do if they do it right), they need to turn it down and either enclose it or relocate it.
3.) The Undercover Cops - Quit looking for druqks and start preventing theft. I'm tired of seeing a guy on his belly getting arrested for druqks while some jackass is cleaning campsites out. That's the true criminal you should slam hard into the ground.
4.) The Mud - It once again got in the way of the fun. I know there's going to be some mud, but a lot of it could have been prevented with some more gravel and sand. They're should have been way more gravel around the water stations.
5.) Splasharoo - It wasn't as much as a problem as it was lame. Come on, if your going to do it, do it right. It was so cheap and you know it. It was basically two cheap slides and a bunch of 5$ kiddie pools surrounded by mud. I like the idea of a place to cool off, but put some effort into it. Maybe they'll build a real water slide or a giant slip'n'slide next year.
BONNAROO FIX THESE PROBLEMS - I don't want any distractions from an amazing weekend with an amazing amount of music!
Post by thisismyname on Jun 15, 2010 0:52:53 GMT -5
I agree with a lot of what you said, and I would like to add on to it at some point, but I first I just have to say, the mud? Really? The mud was not a problem at all this year for me. It's Roo, a little mud on your shoes isn't going to hurt anything.
I agree with a lot of what you said, and I would like to add on to it at some point, but I first I just have to say, the mud? Really? The mud was not a problem at all this year for me. It's Roo, a little mud on your shoes isn't going to hurt anything.
I know mud isn't hurting anything, but it gets kind of annoying when your sinking ankle deep while trying to fill your water bottles up. If they just lay down some extra gravel in trouble areas, you would notice a real improvement.
I agree with a lot of what you said, and I would like to add on to it at some point, but I first I just have to say, the mud? Really? The mud was not a problem at all this year for me. It's Roo, a little mud on your shoes isn't going to hurt anything.
I know mud isn't hurting anything, but it gets kind of annoying when your sinking ankle deep while trying to fill your water bottles up. If they just lay down some extra gravel in trouble areas, you would notice a real improvement.
Wooden trucking pallettes would be a cheap effectives way to keep you out of the mud going in and out of the water stations.
I know mud isn't hurting anything, but it gets kind of annoying when your sinking ankle deep while trying to fill your water bottles up. If they just lay down some extra gravel in trouble areas, you would notice a real improvement.
Wooden trucking pallettes would be a cheap effectives way to keep you out of the mud going in and out of the water stations.
The Mud isnt a big deal to me... its the traffic it causes that is absolutely brutal. Between Jay-z and the late night sets there was so little room to walk from What to Which.... a small bridge in the areas that are bad EVERY YEAR would be clutch there.
The general police prescence was pretty ridiculous. I was under the impression that since roo owns the land, the cops didn't have to be there. We watched our neighbors get harrassed by the ATV cops twice. they took their corn and then came back a second time(a day later) to check on them. They got fed up and left after the second visit. It was our neighbor's 4th time, and he took his friends with him so they could experience the fun. He told us that he finally got everything he needed to make it a perfect time, but ended up leaving in a huff after the harassment. It was very disheartening.
I would like to see a giant shade 'nap tent' in centeroo... run it along the wall behind the lunar stage, have a long white shade tent (like those arched RV carport tents you can buy) and then put a ceiling fan every 20 feet or so. Everyone could crash out and get a good shady nap. Put a filtered water station in the area near the comedy tent, and then have a cool down tent over there too.
I know mud isn't hurting anything, but it gets kind of annoying when your sinking ankle deep while trying to fill your water bottles up. If they just lay down some extra gravel in trouble areas, you would notice a real improvement.
Wooden trucking pallettes would be a cheap effectives way to keep you out of the mud going in and out of the water stations.
You'd be surprised. They had these at Waka around the water stations and they did little good
Post by popetasticperson on Jun 15, 2010 12:29:15 GMT -5
the lunar stage doesn't need to be turned down...the tents need to get turned up!
if you were complaining that you couldn't hear this tent on the right side, all you had to do was go under the tent or walk to the back, or the left side, or really anywhere else and you wouldn't hear it anymore. also, it is so awesome to be sitting in this tent getting a spot for late night and being able to hear the lunar stage to keep your mind of the wait...
The traffic sucked, yeah, especially considering we waited almost as long on Wednesday night to get in as we did last year during the day on Thursday. Four hours at 11pm Wednesday night? Really?
HOWEVER, that was fine with me, I mean traffic is to be expected when you are cramming that many people into a field. What REALLY irritated the holy hell out of me was the motherf-ing Lunar stage. SO LOUD AND ANNOYING. Why exactly do I need to hear the Beatles Guitar Hero or whatever the hell was going on at six billion decibels when there is music that I paid to see and couldn't even hear RIGHT OUTSIDE the tent it was in???? It inspired thoughts of sabotage, seriously. It sucked. Kill the Lunar Stage, or move it to BFE or something. Somewhere I don't have to hear it. (and yes, one could walk into the tent (provided there is room to do so) or go to the other side, but I don't think I should have to do that. No other stage bleeds like the Lunar Stage did.)
Oh yeah and the DJ on Sunday night in the campground near Access, maybe a great idea, I'm glad there was something going on for those of us who weren't ready to pass out after a weekend of raging, but it was seriously loud and very near where my friends and I were trying to sleep and it went on until dawn. I mean if people have to wake up and drive the next day, for many hours, maybe they should move the loud ass DJ back inside Centeroo on Sunday night?
Quackin po pigs. I went via shuttle, didn't drive in and I STILL got searched twice by the po. I guess walking black dready at roo should always be stopped. (First cops, super cool. 2nd set of cops were mean as hell to me, took some corn, ransacked my tent. Then looked at me strange like I was supposed to have a buttload of corn and like I wasted his time.)
oh, oh and on an important note about their demeanor about the fest - I was with other ppl when the second search went down and they were from Kentucky and were trying to chat up the cops a bit and asked him if they liked the music, how bad has the crime been, blah blah blah? And the guy is like "I didn't like the music this year, there were no big names." Woah dude. you can not think jay-z, dmb, etc. are not big names because you love straight-edged music but Stevie Wonder. Frickin Stevie Wonder.
Btw, first time in 4 years that I've EVER been searched.
I didn't see one person all weekend have any problem with their substances. The line to get in was fucking ridiculous, people were waiting for 10+ hours. Also, making us empty camelbaks when the line to get water is 30 minutes? Fucked up.
Emoney serves more of a purpose than any of you, especially Nate, whose incessant, garbled ramblings are so mindless and pointless that I get depressed just seeing them.
TURN IT UP!! Really yall this is an outdoor summer music festival. I wanna get blown onto my ass when I hear "Us and Them" climax at 1:45 in the morning. I want my friends and I to have to yell at each other to say how epic Jay-Z was (and I was up front). When Trombone Shorty goes off I want it to sting my ears a little. It's the only time of year I get to hear live music at that quality and volume and everything I heard this year, other than the Lunar stage, was turned down way under 11.
1. Eastbound traffic got the shaft on Thursday. We were at exit 112 around 3:30 and didn't get to our campsite until 11:30 due to the rerouting traffic down to exit 127 and then taking the back road in...only to merge back with the westbound traffic. What a load. With the whole "greening" theme, what they should do is penalize those who don't carpool and stick them out in the furthest campsites. That would encourage more people to carpool in and reduce the number of cars somewhat.
2. Didn't notice.
3. Meh, I didn't see anyone around my camp get hassled.
4. Pallets are a bad idea...people would be twisting ankles all over the place. Gravel or sand with some hay on top. And why not do something with the valley between the What stage and rest of Centeroo? An obvious problem spot and point of congestion because everyone tries to avoide the mud. Put some damn plywood down or something.
The traffic was HORRIBLE for me getting inside. I waited in line from around 4:45 until at least noon. It was miserable. The worst part was that the cops started driving by and yelling at us to get in our cars. One cop drove by and told us to get on the grass on the side of the road if we were out of the car. Then a couple of minutes later another drove by and yelled something at us, but he was going too fast. Then about five minutes after the one telling us to get in the grass, 3 cops drove up with their sirens on and just stared at us until we got in our cars (they didn't even tell us what they wanted us to do, even when I asked). One of the cops spit tobacco juice towards me.
Then once going into centeroo, the people were SMELLING bags in order to find corn. They took a pipe I had and a small amount of corn from me. Then when I went inside, the security guy said "Have Fun." What an asshole.
The Lunar stage was really loud. I would rather the other tents be that volume, rather than being softer though.
I had no problems with mud and I didn't really even notice spasharoo.
Post by BrokenLight on Jun 15, 2010 16:40:10 GMT -5
1. You must've never been to Bonnaroo or any large music festival before. You have to expect hours and hours of traffic. I've heard rumors of waiting up to 12 hours. Longest I ever waited was about 8 hours. Last year I waited 3 coming from Hillsboro to Route 55 to Ragsdale to Bushy Branch. This year, I took the same path because I was coming from the radio station on Hillsboro and only waited 1 hour!!!
2. Agree with you that it was way too loud. Couldn't believe all the people watching the Conan broadcast also. In the future, turn down the volume and make it an enclosed tent.
3. Didn't notice any undercover cops. Actually I don't even remembering seeing the horse cops.
4. Definitely could've put some hay in some spots to cover some of the mud.
5. I thought Splash-a-roo was stupid but interesting to watch for a couple minutes. But building a real waterslide would just be stupid. That's an accident or possible death waiting to happen.
1. You must've never been to Bonnaroo or any large music festival before. You have to expect hours and hours of traffic. I've heard rumors of waiting up to 12 hours. Longest I ever waited was about 8 hours. Last year I waited 3 coming from Hillsboro to Route 55 to Ragsdale to Bushy Branch. This year, I took the same path because I was coming from the radio station on Hillsboro and only waited 1 hour!!!
2. Agree with you that it was way too loud. Couldn't believe all the people watching the Conan broadcast also. In the future, turn down the volume and make it an enclosed tent.
3. Didn't notice any undercover cops. Actually I don't even remembering seeing the horse cops.
4. Definitely could've put some hay in some spots to cover some of the mud.
5. I thought Splash-a-roo was stupid but interesting to watch for a couple minutes. But building a real waterslide would just be stupid. That's an accident or possible death waiting to happen.
Response for #1. This is my third Bonnaroo. I waited in line for over 6 hours in 08, but at least it was moving and I was fine with it. What I have a problem with is traffic at a complete standstill for hours, jerkoffs cutting in line, and cops doing a lot of nothing.
Traffic was insane, waited 7 hrs. I didn't have any problems w cops. Security glanced in my cooler gong into bonnaroo and only glanced at my backpack twice going into centeroo. My biggest complaint would be I was out in ron Slater and it was so far from the pod nine balloon and water stations.
Traffic fucking sucked, I'll give you that, but they did what they could. The grounds flooded Wednesday night and they had to put sand and mulch down to soak up the water. Centeroo even opened a hour and a half late because of it. And didn't you noticed the semi that fell on its side coming west bound I believe? That also didn't help the situation.
I absolutely loved the Lunar Stage. It never interfered with anything I saw.
If there were undercover cops, that sucks. I did see a few horse cops, not many though.
I walked barefoot half of Friday, and all of Saturday and Sunday and the mud was never a problem for me. I learned to avoid it and was never muddy once.
I thought Splasharoo was a great idea! I never got a chance to go in, but I walked by and everyone looked like they were having a great time. It's a fun way to cool down other than going to the fountain. I do think they could have made it a little better, but come on, it was they're year doing this.
I agree with a lot of what you said, and I would like to add on to it at some point, but I first I just have to say, the mud? Really? The mud was not a problem at all this year for me. It's Roo, a little mud on your shoes isn't going to hurt anything.
Well, I stayed in family camping & spent 4 days seeing people get stuck, & helping them get out. We finally barricaded the road so no one else could come through! It was horrible!
.Also, cutting in line off the interstate needs to stop. Either pull over the line cutters or set up cones along the emergency lane. Cutting slows down traffic and makes everyone waiting patiently angry. THE TRAFFIC IS A MAJOR PROBLEM!!!!
while sitting in traffic we saw 3 cars get the boot and have to go around to the back of the line of the interstate for cutting in. it was a bit of sweet justice
.Also, cutting in line off the interstate needs to stop. Either pull over the line cutters or set up cones along the emergency lane. Cutting slows down traffic and makes everyone waiting patiently angry. THE TRAFFIC IS A MAJOR PROBLEM!!!!
while sitting in traffic we saw 3 cars get the boot and have to go around to the back of the line of the interstate for cutting in. it was a bit of sweet justice
I wont give you the gory details but trying to use any of the porta Leno holes after 6pm is disgusting...You say they own the land right? So install some quacking real bathrooms. I don't mind porta potties at a venue like that, but trying to use them after a certain time of the day is filthy, raunchy, and should never be accepted.
Literally Leno overflowing every porta-potty i tried to use in centerroo Friday and Saturday night.
Lunar stage needs more speakers. Could only hear it from 4 of the stages. Seriously, it was interfering with artists at other stages. Try opening a song with a solo guitar part with some techno beat thumping so loud you can feel the bass. I think the volume of the other stages was fine. There was just nothing to break up the sound between stages. Bass like that travels. There was also issues from some of the smaller stages. The sound bleeds thru the back of the tents since there isn't a solid wall. On the adjacent stages it was a bad mix of two good bands. Trying to find shade and hear certain stages proved difficult.
GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SANITATION COMPANY I know in '07, and even last year from talking with other people, the porta potties were much better. The schedule they had going on kept things at acceptable levels, with the exception of Centeroo at night. That's just a logistical nightmare. The porta potties were unacceptable by noon. Full and overflowing. That was in the camping, forget about Centeroo. More porta potties in Centeroo would be good as well.
More water stations in Centeroo. Hour plus wait in the sun when you are dehydrated is not acceptable. The two filtered stations are fine, one more would be nice, but at least add more unfiltered stations. Better drainage around the stations would be good. Put in some French drains or something.
I really like the idea of an area to get shade somewhere out of the way. I definitely got heat stroke. Not used to heat like that.
Better routing of traffic would be appreciated too. There was a significant amount of time spent stopped with the vehicle shut off. Went in thru the back gate.
I didn't really have any problems with the water stations and the most I waited was 5 minutes to get water all weekend. There were some crowded stations but if you walked to another station there was often a very short line.
My big issue was with the portos. This was by far the worst that I had seen them in 3 years. I went to Lolla with some friends last year and I was talking about how much better the portos were at Bonnaroo in 07 and 08. Not the case this year. If it wasn't for the VIP bathrooms it would have been a very bad weekend.
The general police prescence was pretty ridiculous. I was under the impression that since roo owns the land, the cops didn't have to be there. We watched our neighbors get harrassed by the ATV cops twice. they took their corn and then came back a second time(a day later) to check on them. They got fed up and left after the second visit. It was our neighbor's 4th time, and he took his friends with him so they could experience the fun. He told us that he finally got everything he needed to make it a perfect time, but ended up leaving in a huff after the harassment. It was very disheartening.
I think you're talking about us... camped near shakedown? Near the vendor grateful don's silver & sarong store and lightupwire?
The scanners they were using to scan the barcodes on the tickets were a big problem when we came in at about 9:30 am. The kid had to shut it off twice and restart it before it scanned the first ticket then had to shut it off and restart it before the 2nd ticket would scan. Same thing was happening on either side of us. What should have taken 2 or 3 minutes took at least 10, multiply that by all the tickets and it was probably the biggest cause of delays. Having said that, the line that we waited in for 7 hours last year we only waited in for 2 hours this year and things just got better from there.
I wont give you the gory details but trying to use any of the porta Leno holes after 6pm is disgusting...You say they own the land right? So install some quacking real bathrooms. I don't mind porta potties at a venue like that, but trying to use them after a certain time of the day is filthy, raunchy, and should never be accepted.
Literally Leno overflowing every porta-potty i tried to use in centerroo Friday and Saturday night.
i used exactly two porto's over the weekend, and they were both TERRIBLE - one was in VIP and the other in centeroo should have been cast into the abyss. what a fucking site that thing was... wow
