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The Nickel Eye record>The Julian Casablancas solo record>A.M.>First Impressions of Earth>The rest of The Strokes' catalog>The rest of Wilco's catalog
I kid, I kid...I love Wilco. It's kind of surprising to me how many people truly think Summerteeth is better than YHF.
It usually just has to do with a difference of opinion in sound style. They are essentially the same ideas, in terms of songwriting and themes. One is more rootsy, and one is more modern. Similar songs carried out in disparate manners.
Also, nod is right. Room on Fire would probably come in before a wilco album or two, mostly for Reptilia.
^I agree. I liked AHJ's first solo record. Second one not quite as much. I was just kidding about the Nikolai side project/Casablancas solo record.
^^^That's true. The way I always look at it is that YHF is the more cohesive album and is, in my opinion, better as a whole than Summerteeth, but I think Summerteeth might have better individual songs than YHF. If that makes any sense. I think they're close, and I think they're both phenomenal records.
Cassablanca's solo record was pretty bad, IMO, and the last Strokes album is barely worth mentioning. Also, Wilco is a better overall band, but ( again, IMO) never put out anything quite as instantly classic as Is This It?, a record I'd quite possibly consider the best popular music release of the last decade.
A) I'd say YHF is as instantly classic as Is This It?, and
B) Funeral and Kid A are 1A and 1B for the title of best popular music release of the last decade. I'd also submit White Blood Cells and Elephant as personal favorites, but neither of those are as universal as the other two.
In Rainbows is better than Kid A, I think, and while Funeral is great (nay, excellent) there's some stuff I'd put ahead of it. always thought Elephant was too similar to WBC, thus I'd not consider it among the best of the decade, De Stijl > White Blood Cells.
I agree about De Stijl. I thought it was released in 1999 (that's why I didn't mention it) but I just checked and it was released in 2000. For me, the White Stripes' catalog goes: 1)De Stijl 2)White Blood Cells 3)Elephant 4)The White Stripes 5)Get Behind Me Satan 6) Icky Thump
I can't say that In Rainbows is overall better than Kid A but I have to chime in to give it some love. Most people are quick to file it behind some of their other records but I for one never really knew much about Radiohead aside from "Creep" and "Karma Police" until they put out In Rainbows. The genius of their selling approach lead me to download it and fall in love with the band forever. I guess I'm really supporting the way they released it and the more accessible sound and Kid A is ultimately better, but I can just listen to In Rainbows over and over and over and I found it to be a really good way to be introduced to the band. I guess you want people to listen to a band's best work as a jumping point, but In Rainbows is the bee's knees for me.
To chime in on Radiohead, the only albums that have ever captivated me are In Rainbows, OK Computer and the Bends (all which I find amazing and are among my favorite albums by anyone). While I appreciate Kid A for what it is, I've never really enjoyed it or understood the obsession (and Hail to the Thief / Amnesiac never really did much for me, either).
As for the Shins, I'd see them closing Which ala Weezer or Phoenix or in the National's spot.
I'm one of the few odd balls that actually likes Amnesiac more than Kid A. I think every album is at least ****/5, aside from HTTT (I'd put it at ***1/2) and Pablo Honey ( a **/5). Every album has its strengths, but some have more weaknesses than others...While Kid A is great, I'm not as big a fan of their conceptual approach to it. Great songs, interesting production and everything, I just think they lost a bit of their human/organic quality of OKC and Bends (which I'm sure was totally intentional). I preferred Amnesiac as while it was still "Radiohead the cyborg", it was even more daring and experimental than Kid A, minus the concept album part. Dunno why, just always liked it more.
In Rainbows made a return to their more human side, both lyrically and musically. I also think it sounds like it's the most emotionally charged (even subdued) record they've put out, plus I think the songs are among the most beautiful pieces they've come out with. In Rainbows is a ***** album and in my top 5 albums of 00's.
I would really like to see The Shins as the Which closer.
In regards to Kid A, I understand why there are some people who don't like it as much as others, I just really like what it stood for in addition to the songs being fantastic themselves. IMO, it was the perfect album for the coming digital age, and one of the more memorable concept albums in the last 30 years. And In Rainbows' marketing campaign was the perfect choice for the already-arrived digital age, and it was one of the most memorable marketing campaigns of the last 30 years. Ultimately, I simply feel that the songs on Kid A are better than those on In Rainbows, and I feel it works better as a whole piece. But that's just my opinion. I certainly understand people not liking Kid A as much as some of their other stuff. I would rate Radiohead's albums like this (going my the AMG scale):
Pablo Honey (***/5) The Bends (*****/5) OK Computer (*****/5) Kid A (*****/5) Amnesiac (**** and a half/5) HTTT (****/5) In Rainbows (**** and a half/5)
Maybe In Rainbows is *****, but I think we have to wait and see and let it settle in a few years before the final word is out on its legacy.
It's been 3 years. My opinion has only grown more in favor, at the time, I had it as my #2 album of 07, and allot of my favorites of the past decade were released in 07. I think it's pretty safe to jump to that conclusion.
Waits would most likely close Which or pre-headline What.
Here is my current somewhat-realistic, somewhat-ideal lineup:
Friday HL: The White Stripes Friday Pre: Them Crooked Vultures Friday Which: Primus Friday LN: Furthur
Saturday HL: Neil Young & Crazy Horse Saturday LN: Daft Punk Saturday Pre: Death Cab for Cutie Saturday Which: The Roots & John Legend
Sunday HL: My Morning Jacket Sunday Pre: Trey Anastasio & TAB Sunday Which: The Strokes
Other acts: Spoon, Bela Fleck & the Flecktones, Yonder Mountain String Band, The Chemical Brothers, Gov't Mule, Crosby Stills & Nash, Big Boi, Portishead, Belle & Sebastian, Ryan Adams, Mos Def.
I'm so in. I'd put some different bands in the middle, though. Ex) Sufjan Stevens, Streetlight Manifesto, The Decemberists, of Montreal
How sweet would it be to have Neil young come and play with Crosby, Stills, and Nash? (Or vice-versa)
Furthur is one of my top wishes for next year. Or Phil & Friends. It has been way too long for some Dead on the Farm.
I'd love some Crosby Stills & Nash, though. Legendary in their own right and would make a perfect afternoon set to listen to. Seeing them and Neil Young on the bill would make it very interesting. One of my biggest regrets that Bonnaroo never got was CSN&Y on their 2006 tour. Now that would have been a great headliner ... Radiohead / Tom Petty / Crosby Stills Nash & Young .... God damn that would have been good!
Rolling Stones - Gorillaz - Daft Punk - Arcade Fire - Tom Waits - Cheech & Chong - My Morning Jacket - Primus - String Cheese Incident MGMT - Modest Mouse - A Tribe Called Quest - John Mellencamp - 311 - Queens of the Stoneage - The Roots - Bela Fleck and the Flecktones - Massive Attack - Gov't Mule - Vampire Weekend - Katt Williams - Ben Folds - Sonic Youth - Chemical Brothers - Toots and the Maytals - O.A.R. - Cypress Hill - Tracy Morgan - Explosions in the Sky - Big Boi - Megadeth - Galactic - Lupe Fiasco - Of Montreal Yonder Mountain String Band - Reel Big Fish - STS9 - Black Label Society - Umphrey's McGee - Fleet Foxes Drive By Truckers - Band of Horses - Ben Kweller - Garage a Trois - The Wailers - Benni Benassi - N.E.R.D. - Old Crow Medicine Show - Slightly Stoopid - Keller Williams - The Polyphonic Spree - Black Lips - Hank III - Grace Potter & the Nocturnals - Battles - Santigold - Daniel Tosh - !!! - Delta Spirit - The Hold Steady - Tortoise - Dragonforce - Gomez - Kraftwerk Infected Mushroom - Shpongle - The New Deal - Heartless B@stards - Dirty Dozen Brass Band - Perpetual Groove - Future Rock - The Tallest Man on Earth - The Bridge - Orchard Lounge - Best Coast - Big Gigantic - Pnuma Trio - Chronicles of the Landsquid
Headliners
Friday Gorillaz (9:00-11:00)
Saturday Rolling Stones (8:00-10:30)
Sunday My Morning Jacket (7:00-9:00) String Cheese Incident (10:00-1:00)
Friday
Latenight
Which - Primus (12:00-2:30) This - A Tribe Called Quest (12:00-2:00)/Big Boi (2:30-4:00) That - Keller Williams (11:30-2:00)/Umphrey's McGee (2:45-5:00) Other - Black Lips (11:00-12:30)/Modest Mouse (1:30-3:00) Lunar - Infected Mushroom (12:00-1:30)/Shpongle (2:00-3:30)/
Saturday
Latenight
What - Daft Punk (12:00-1:30) Which - Arcade Fire (2:00-3:30) This - Garage a Trois (1:00-3:00)/Galactic (3:30-5:00) That - Massive Attack (1:30-3:00)/STS9 (3:30-5:00) Other - Benni Benassi (1:00-2:30)/Kraftwerk (3:00-4:30))/Justice (4:45-6:00) Lunar - Future Rock (12:30-1:30)/Orchard Lounge (2:00-3:30)/Big Gigantic (4:00-5:30)
U2 - Coldplay - Daft Punk - Arcade Fire - My Morning Jacket- Lil Wayne- Allman Brothers Band- Vampire Weeekend - Steve Miller Band- Spiritualized - Spoon- Justice