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I can't say that In Rainbows is overall better than Kid A but I have to chime in to give it some love. Most people are quick to file it behind some of their other records but I for one never really knew much about Radiohead aside from "Creep" and "Karma Police" until they put out In Rainbows. The genius of their selling approach lead me to download it and fall in love with the band forever. I guess I'm really supporting the way they released it and the more accessible sound and Kid A is ultimately better, but I can just listen to In Rainbows over and over and over and I found it to be a really good way to be introduced to the band. I guess you want people to listen to a band's best work as a jumping point, but In Rainbows is the bee's knees for me.
I had the exact same experience and I know many others that did too. In Rainbows is a great place to start and even though Kid A might be the better record i still listen to In Rainbows more than any other Radiohead cd.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
U2 - Coldplay - Daft Punk - Arcade Fire - My Morning Jacket- Lil Wayne- Allman Brothers Band- Vampire Weeekend - Steve Miller Band- Spiritualized - Spoon- Justice
If Arcade Fire played, would they headline? They didn't get one of the Top 3 spots at Lollapalooza this year. I feel they'd be Late Which like NIN was, just as NIN played the same slot at Lolla (I think).
Post by RadioSpirit on Aug 7, 2010 20:33:07 GMT -5
Arcade Fire is bigger than Weezer, The Flaming Lips, Phoenix, and Franti.
not by very big margins in some cases, but still, bigger than all of them. they're also probaly bigger than a lot of What preHeadliners, but definitely smaller than almost all Headliners.
so no, i definitely don't think they could play Which, but i also think they couldn't headline. they would just be one of the bigger pre headliners.
Post by RadioSpirit on Aug 7, 2010 20:52:12 GMT -5
in current commercial draw. we're talking about current Weezer here, not 90's Weezer. the Weezer that was recently an opening act for blink-182's US tour. alongside Fall Out Boy and Asher Roth.
The Flaming Lips are harder to argue, it's more of an opinion, although the Flaming Lips highest charting album (Embryonic, who knew?) only reached #8 in the US, while AF saw Neon Bible go to #1
Funeral is Gold in the US and Neon Bible almost is. They're both Platinum in Canada and Funeral is Platinum in the UK. Flips have 1 US Gold and 3 UK Golds. in the end i think they edge them out.
but you didn't manage to pick out the ones i was referring to by "not by big margins in some cases"
Yeah I was just messing with ya. It's hard to say accurately one band is "bigger" than the next. Glad you did the research because I was way too lazy to do so myself. I can roll with them being bigger than current Weezer, but I still disagree about the Flaming Lips. Record sales doesn't paint the whole picture for me, and the Lips have had success on the road for many years now.
Post by RadioSpirit on Aug 7, 2010 21:12:10 GMT -5
yeah, i laughed when i saw your reply. and i totally respect your stance on Flips, even though i disagree. i could see either side on that one.
but Bishop does have a good point, i was leaning too heavily on '10 The White Stripes and NIN both make good arguments in that they both have similar draws. hmm...i don't know who either of those bands were playing against, so maybe with a sufficient conflict, AF could play Which....
but honestly, i feel even in a conflict situation, they'd be given that What Stage spot just due to their sound, and the "epicness" of some of their material.
keep in mind that all of this is coming from a person who feels pretty lukewarm towards AF
Phil Lesh & Friends is another big act that played Which over the past couple years, along with the White Stripes and Nine Inch Nails. I think Arcade Fire would be along their lines - they could headline (Phil Lesh has, NIN has Coachella) but they're not necessarily on the same level as other 'headliner'-type acts being thrown around (Neil, Radiohead, Stones).
If they're not the Friday headliner, then I think they'll close Which or play Which late night. Or they could spit the Friday headliner with between Arcade Fire/Daft Punk kind of like they did in '09 with Beasties/Phish.
They're in that awkward "too big to play any other slot but not big enough to play with the big boys yet" category that the White Stripes were in.
If Arcade Fire plays Bonnaroo in 2011, I think they should headline in the spot Kings of Leon were in this year. They are the perfect rising band to grab a headlining gig at Roo on Friday night. When I went to their show at Merriweather Post Pavilion on Friday, I spoke to a couple older concert vets and they said seeing them and the energy of the crowd reminded them a lot of seeing Bruce and U2 in the 80s. I honestly feel like there isn't a hotter young-ish band that Bonnaroo could slip into a headlining spot alongside, say, Paul McCartney, Daft Punk, and Furthur. All that being said, with the White Stripes and NIN name-drops, I wouldn't be SHOCKED if they closed Which. Me, personally, I think they deserve a headlining gig.
But, of course, I'm biased on the matter. I really want to see as many people as possible watching them on the What Stage and singing along with "Wake Up" and "Rebellion (Lies)" because that was like a religious experience, even at a mediocre venue like MPP.
If they're not the Friday headliner, then I think they'll close Which or play Which late night. Or they could spit the Friday headliner with between Arcade Fire/Daft Punk kind of like they did in '09 with Beasties/Phish.