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So yes, for people who believe that marriage is sacred between man and woman, allowing same-sex marriage does diminish their own, it mocks it and disrespects it because gays simply can't do what straights can--reproduce!
Maybe I'm some sort of side-show freak, but I'm pretty certain I can reproduce without a man and without being married....
So yes, for people who believe that marriage is sacred between man and woman, allowing same-sex marriage does diminish their own, it mocks it and disrespects it because gays simply can't do what straights can--reproduce!
Maybe I'm some sort of side-show freak, but I'm pretty certain I can reproduce without a man and without being married....
^^ Well, they don't get much of a choice. Unless these Christians can find a man crazy enough to marry me?? I know Jesus could work miracles, but he ain't around no more.
No I'd definitely make a 14th amendment argument against any such bill. I meant that first post on principle.
And as a Christian, I think the major thing Jesus would point to would be adding fighting poverty to the political agenda of Christians.
Well at the moment 30+ states have those laws on the book, and so far nobody has overturned them. I do agree that Christians are good people and Churches are full of good people. I just think there has been a trend in the past ten years of Christians trying to legislate their morality onto the rest of America. Honestly at the moment that is a much bigger threat to our way of life than Sharia law ever thought about being.
I'm not really sure if there has ever been a case, but I don't see why a substantive due process argument coupled with a 14th amendment argument wouldn't work. I'd definitely argue that marriage is a fundamental right.
14th amendment: "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
To me there's a difference between legislating morality and letting your morals guide you in making laws. Clearly it's unconstitutional to say the Bible says don't gamble, so I'm going to pass a law that makes gambling illegal. But I definitely don't think it's un-Constitutional to say well Jesus said to take care for the poor, so I'm going to vote to extend unemployment. Or something else analogous to that. Every Congressman is going to pass laws consistent with their morality, so to rail on someone for attempting to pass laws based on their morality whether that be a belief in no God or one of the various religions seems obtuse, not that I'm claiming this is what you're doing.
Maybe the government should be out of the marriage business.
If let churches and casinos and ships captains or whatever conduct marriages and the government process civil unions. Both are exclusive of each other. In order for tax or legal considerations, a civil union which does not discriminate needs to be filed. If couple choose to have a ceremony overseen by a religious figure or whatever, fine.
That way people can still have their demeaning religious beliefs which reduces marriage to babymaking and the rest of us can get along to treating each other with respect and not feel that someone else having what we have somehow demeans it. Did the Starbelly Sneetches teach us nothing?
Maybe the government should be out of the marriage business.
If let churches and casinos and ships captains or whatever conduct marriages and the government process civil unions. Both are exclusive of each other. In order for tax or legal considerations, a civil union which does not discriminate needs to be filed. If couple choose to have a ceremony overseen by a religious figure or whatever, fine.
That way people can still have their demeaning religious beliefs which reduces marriage to babymaking and the rest of us can get along to treating each other with respect and not feel that someone else having what we have somehow demeans it. Did the Starbelly Sneetches teach us nothing?