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I am gonna vote for FFYM, cause dude takes forever. At this point, I see no one who strikes me as guilty. My vote isnt a permanent one, just wanted to get it in, just incase I lose power tonight, and am without internet tomorrow.
I am gonna vote for FFYM, cause dude takes forever. At this point, I see no one who strikes me as guilty. My vote isnt a permanent one, just wanted to get it in, just incase I lose power tonight, and am without internet tomorrow.
JHammett >>> FFYM
Not taking forever after I got my ass handed to me.
i think bacon is suspicious for the same reason i thought wolf was.
EAP>>>>>BACON BACON BACON
Actually, Bacon voted for a runoff over stacking a vote on Wolf. The only person left to vote after that was FFYM. That's when the game got delayed and Kdogg shook things up. If Bacon is Mafia, then we can assume that Wolf wasn't. Would they be in cahoots and vote the way they did? It landed both of them in a runoff before the game had even gotten started. Doesn't seem like a very good strategy. At least I can't see any sense in it.
We need to consider the possibly that we just lost two townspeople or...
1. Wolf was in fact Mafia and made a move when Kdogg suggested voting off FFYM. It wasn't odd of Kdogg to do something like that. That's just how he plays. That's why I said he might have been baiting (or bateing ) potential mafia.
2. Kdogg was guilty and the Mafia is working some grand scheme strait from The Art of War. Which is highly doubtful.
3. We are lost.
I'm leaning towards Wolf being Mafia and I'm studying over Kdogg's "epic" post.
Having said all that, I hope my fellow townspeople are reading over the game and looking for any red flags.
I'm holding off voting because I would like some discussion to take place.
You know what's so great/weird about being dyslexic? I laughed at this because I thought you were making a play on words. Just now realized you were busting my chops.
Well the easy thing to do right now would be vote for EAP but reciprocal voting in the second round has little purpose and normally is just used to stay unnoticed. Kdogg being killed implies he was right about something. He implied in his large post that he thought either SFA or Airline were guilty. I would love to see a run-off between the two.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
i too am willing to change my vote in thoughts that bacon may have been uncertain about wolf and therefore did not want to decide to end it for him, but still think bacon is suspicious. i think wolf was mafia for sure.
i def do NOT think kdogg was mafia, he is too selfish to bow out of the game this early.
i too am willing to change my vote in thoughts that bacon may have been uncertain about wolf and therefore did not want to decide to end it for him, but still think bacon is suspicious. i think wolf was mafia for sure.
i def do NOT think kdogg was mafia, he is too selfish to bow out of the game this early.
i am going to go back and read again.
I agree with you on this completely. Kdogg was obviously innocent and since he is one of the better players in the game we should listen to what he said before he died. For all we know he may have even been the inspector and successfully got Mafia Wolf killed. He broke it down like this:
1-in-3 likelihood of being Mafia: Bek, wolf, Bacon 1-in-2 likelihood of being Mafia: SFA, Airline 1-in-5 likelihood (1-in-6 if you wanna split hairs, I know I'm not Mafia) of being Mafia: jhammett, EAP, FFYM, noage, Mike D
The logic he presented makes a lot of sense and I think we should at least consider using it going forward. I am about 75% wolf was mafia. If not I would say Bek is probably Mafia since I know I am a towny. It makes sense that either SFA or Airline would be mafia so it would make sense to try to force a run-off between them. Even in the innocent one were to get killed it would likely force the two remaining mafia members to vote together which increases our chances of picking them off.
BTW i picked SFA from airline completely randomly I went back through their posts before I voted and found nothing that made one more suspicious than the other.
BTW i picked SFA from airline completely randomly I went back through their posts before I voted and found nothing that made one more suspicious than the other.
Did you not consider the fact that I had just defended you after EAP's vote? The reason she gave was a vote that put me into the early part of the 1st runoff. Yet, I still defended you because I didn't want to loose a possible innocent.
Let's say that you and EAP are townspeople. Why would a Mafia member bother defending you? Wouldn't they rather sit back and let the townspeople destroy themselves and not get involved? Especially considering the fact that Kdogg implied you might be an accomplice. Seems like a perfect set up. If I were Mafia I would've let you rot. I didn't. I pointed out what was going on at that point in the game and argued that line of thinking should be reconsidered.
1-in-3 likelihood of being Mafia: Bek, wolf, Bacon 1-in-2 likelihood of being Mafia: SFA, Airline 1-in-5 likelihood (1-in-6 if you wanna split hairs, I know I'm not Mafia) of being Mafia: jhammett, EAP, FFYM, noage, Mike D
The logic he presented makes a lot of sense and I think we should at least consider using it going forward. I am about 75% wolf was mafia. If not I would say Bek is probably Mafia since I know I am a towny. It makes sense that either SFA or Airline would be mafia so it would make sense to try to force a run-off between them. Even in the innocent one were to get killed it would likely force the two remaining mafia members to vote together which increases our chances of picking them off.
It should definitely be considered but we have to keep in mind that Kdogg said he had something up his sleeve. We all knew that before voting in the runoff. Therefore, we have to consider that the voting patterns for this game might be off a bit.
So I have looked over all of the evidence presented and I believe Kdogg was a Townsperson and I believe his post to be accurate. Looking at it logically, there are three categories: 1 in 3, 1 in 2, and 1 in 5. Wolf has been voted out of the first, and (hopefully) he was the mafia. I think the next logical step would be to vote for the 1 in 2 category. This leaves SFA and Airline. SFA has posted quite a bit and Airline has been more on the quite side. I feel as though the mafia would be a bit quieter at this point in the game so:
I am having trouble coming to any conclusions now on which way to go. I will have some time later in the day today to possibly change my vote, but for now i don't have any reason to start stacking votes. If we are going to trust that kdogg was trying to lead us in the right direction, Bec, Wolf, and Bacon are the top possibilities of mafia. Wolf is gone, Bacon has a vote, that leaves . . .
Post by fightforyourmind88 on Feb 11, 2011 13:21:39 GMT -5
This is too weird. Everyone has one vote. I'm considering changing my vote based on who Bek and SFA vote for. The mafia may have held off voting until they knew they could vote someone off with just two votes.
I am having trouble coming to any conclusions now on which way to go. I will have some time later in the day today to possibly change my vote, but for now i don't have any reason to start stacking votes. If we are going to trust that kdogg was trying to lead us in the right direction, Bec, Wolf, and Bacon are the top possibilities of mafia. Wolf is gone, Bacon has a vote, that leaves . . .
Mike D >> Bec
I don't disagree with the possibility of Bek being mafia but according to Kdogg's logic there is a 33% chance that either Bek, AWATD, or I are/were Mafia and there is a 50% chance that either SFA or Airline are Mafia. That's why I would like to see a run-off between them.
Post by ☮ superbek ☮ on Feb 11, 2011 16:10:22 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but I think it is just dumb to jump on kdogg's first-round-while-trying-to-protect-himself-logic.
Maybe the mafia wants us to think that he was on to something and that was why they killed him. And honestly, didn't he name like every player so what good does it do anyway?
I'm all for a run off but I just don't know if we should abide so much to a presumably ignorant dead man's words.
That being said, I'm not sure if anyone looks particularly guilty right now... which leads me with nothing else to go on aside from a reciprocal vote so....
So does no one agree with my idea that a run-off between SFA and Airline could be fruitful? Reciprocal voting in the second round is a great way to vote off an innocent.
i also agree with you to some extent bek, i think we should take into consideration what kdogg said for sure, but i do not think we should TOTALLY rely on it. he is a good player, but he has been known to be wrong.
i also think we should watch out for a sleeper. there is usually always one mafia person that says nothing and is really quiet.
Well, I guess I'll go with a reciprocal vote. Bacon has voted for me for two rounds, so in the interest of self preservation I'd rather vote for him over Airline.
I think the townies would be making a mistake. I can't say I trust SFA, but he's not the one trying to kill me because kdogg brought my name up for some reason.
I didn't want to do this bacon, because I honestly think you are innocent.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
I knew that was going to happen. Well if you want proof that I am innocent its the fact that I'm pimping this run-off so hard. If I were Mafia I would have just laid low when all the votes came in and one of the people I was trying to convince people to vote for was soon to be killed. But, I did not do that because I am in no way convinced that you are guilty and I would prefer to have a potentially revealing run-off in stead.
The reason I am going with what Kdogg said is the fact that he was killed. There must have been something that he said that made the mafia worry that he was the inspector. I don't really have a good alternative right now because I believe that Wolf was the mafia member from Kdogg's group 1. From Group 3 I don't really see anything to be particularly suspicious of but I guess if I were to pick someone to vote for in that group it would either be jhammett of FFYM with their reciprocal voting.
I know I haven't really presented that great of an alternative option for you Airline, but I do hope that you take into consideration that if I were Mafia I would have just let you die. Instead I put my ass on the line to get someone in a run-off with you where you could try to defend your self.
I don't see us coming to any conclusions too quickly during or even possibly right after this round. My initial vote for Bec was partially to avoid stacking votes for someone I was unsure of. This isn't going to get us anywhere. I believe adding a third to the runoff might help us more than hurt us. Seeing how SFA seems to be the prime target . . .
) potential mafia. 
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