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^sorry i did not see your question, but i obviously wanted you to say who was innocent (since i asked). if you really are innocent, the mafia already knows anyway.
and to be honest, jhamm....you saying airline is innocent makes you look like you guys are in cahoots.
i'm pretty sure townies that we can narrow our suspicious list down to:
Well seeing as everyone has completely ignored the question I asked, I will release the name of the person whom I guessed. It was Airline, I asked if he was mafia, and he IS NOT. Hence the reason I think we should vote off SFA.
To Airline. I was hoping not to have to do that, as it will probably make you a priority for the mafia. My apologies
Even if you are inspector. YOU ARE WRONG about me.
Outside of being mentioned in Kdogg's post, what have I done to make you so sure I'm mafia? I already addressed how it's highly unlikely that Bacon and I are in cahoots. What kind of mafia member would actively campaign to have one of there own placed in a runoff? If Bacon is indeed guilty, he was using Kdogg's post to pick off two innocents. That is if you're telling the truth about Airline.
If the two of us make it to the next round, you are going to waste a guess asking about me.
If the two of us make it to the next round, you are going to waste a guess asking about me.
Yes
Well, then you are giving the Mafia a free kill. They probable wouldn't vote you off if they know they can kill another innocent because you are wasting your vote on me. They'll save you for the next round and win.
But I don't think that's what's going on at the moment.
I am trying to last a little longer than last time, and also trying to formulate opinions without pointing fingers.
-Jham
OK, then explain to me why this is the third time I've had to ask you why I'm guilty? How could Bacon and I possibly be working together?
Also, Airline barely posted in the first round. Why did you ask about him?
Why did you post the following statement in your "I'm the inspector" post:
I am sharing this info because my future looks rather bleak, and even if I could get bek to vote for airline, and I voted for him as well, it would only shortly delay my demise.
Did the kolonopins make you mix up our names or what? You've supposedly know Airline was innocent the entire round.
I'm still voting Jham.
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...I am sharing this info because my future looks rather bleak, and even if I could get bek to vote for airline.... .....I just took a couple kolonopin, so my minutes awake are numbered.
Well, then you are giving the Mafia a free kill. They probable wouldn't vote you off if they know they can kill another innocent because you are wasting your vote on me. They'll save you for the next round and win.
But I don't think that's what's going on at the moment.
-Jham
OK, then explain to me why this is the third time I've had to ask you why I'm guilty? How could Bacon and I possibly be working together?
Also, Airline barely posted in the first round. Why did you ask about him?
Why did you post the following statement in your "I'm the inspector" post:
I am sharing this info because my future looks rather bleak, and even if I could get bek to vote for airline, and I voted for him as well, it would only shortly delay my demise.
Did the kolonopins make you mix up our names or what? You've supposedly know Airline was innocent the entire round.
I'm still voting Jham.
That was my example on how to stay alive a little longer without sharing that I was the inspector. At the time, I had 4 votes, Airline had 2, and SFA had 1 (my vote). I would have had to have changed my vote to airline, and gotten beck to vote for airline, just to have forced a 1 on 1 runoff, and based on what I have seen and read, the mafia will routinely kill the person leftover from the runoff (kdogg). I dont expect to make it to the next round, but I didnt want to die the the info I had.
And yeah, you vote for bacon in both rounds, but why did you vote for Kdogg again? Him changing his vote is purely out of furstration, and I nearly did it too, other than that, He voted for bek (who he changed his vote back to), and then voted for Wolf after wolf voted for him.
I think a good strategy for mafia members it to vote for each other initially, but then changed their votes to an innocent once a runoff is forced.
And Im not the only one that thinks your guilty, ask everyone else.
The Main point I have, Bacon IS WITHOUT A DOUBT MAFIA, kill him off next round, and see who doesnt vote for him, and see who they kill off. Even if they have 2 members after bacon is gone, they wont be able to sacrifice someone until the end.
...I am sharing this info because my future looks rather bleak, and even if I could get bek to vote for airline.... .....I just took a couple kolonopin, so my minutes awake are numbered.
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And yeah, you vote for bacon in both rounds, but why did you vote for Kdogg again? Him changing his vote is purely out of furstration, and I nearly did it too, other than that, He voted for bek (who he changed his vote back to), and then voted for Wolf after wolf voted for him.
If you want to look back, I defended Kdogg voting for FFYM in my voting post. At the time, the votes were Kdogg 3 Wolf 4. I didn't want to stack votes and I didn't have much to base my decision off of. I knew that I could change my vote later in the round. There was never a reason to because Kdogg was never in danger of getting voted off.
I think a good strategy for mafia members it to vote for each other initially, but then changed their votes to an innocent once a runoff is forced.
This is somewhat true but is it a good strategy to openly call for a fellow mafia member to be put in a runoff? Bacon did it to me twice.
This is how votes were before Wolf switched to Kdogg and turned it into a 2 person runoff.
Votes Cast Mike D >>> noage jhammett >>> wolf Bek >>> kdogg Airline >>> SFA kdogg >>> Bek >>> FFYM >>> Bek wolf >>> Bacon noage >>> Mike D EAP >>> wolf Bacon >>> SFA SFA >>> Airline >>> Bacon FFYM >>> Bek
Note that Bacon voted for me saying it's good to have a runoff. Then I changed my vote to him.
In the second round, Bacon brought up Airline and I constantly. He was actively and aggressively trying to put me into a runoff based on what Kdogg had written. What strategic sense does that make? Also, consider that you stated that the mafia are most likely: SFA, Bacon, Wolf. You believe that the best strategy for the two remaining mafia players is for one to purposefully try to place the other in a runoff? Bacon headhunted Airline and I for the better half of the second round.
This is why I'm having a hard time believing you man. If you are telling the truth and you've known Bacon was mafia the entire game. Then it's obvious that part of the mafia's strategy it to use Kdogg's post to make us fight amongst ourselves. I can understand that you'd want to vote for me because you knew airline is innocent. What I don't understand is the way you went about it. Pretty much professing that I was guilty. That's why I fought so hard not to be voted out. I just don't know if you're legit.
That was my example on how to stay alive a little longer without sharing that I was the inspector. At the time, I had 4 votes, Airline had 2, and SFA had 1 (my vote).
Ohhh, OK. I follow you on this. I was scanning through the game and must of had an earlier tally in my head. My bad.
^so are you saying you think bacon is guilty or not?
Sorry if that was confusing. I was mostly arguing from Jham's point of view. If Jham is the Inspector then I'm just pointing out Bacon's angle.
As for me:
For most of the second round, I held on to the notion that Bacon was voting for me because he believed Kdogg's post should be adhered to . That's one of the reasons I switched my vote to Jham when you brought up how him and wolf didn't reciprocate votes. I was already uncomfortable with my vote because Airline had stacked a vote behind me for the second round in a row. Mostly because I didn't want to be so closely associated with him for two rounds in a row.
As things stand right now, I think Bacon is probable the most suspicious. I guess we will see who the Mafia kills.
What are everyone's thoughts on Jham being the inspector?
Edit:typo
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i'm just confused about why you are sticking up for bacon so much.......why do you care what he says about bacon????
now, if you are an innocent and jhamm comes back tomorrow and says you aren't, then you might want to be defensive, but i just don't see why you are being so adamant about bacons innocence unless:
a. you are really the inspector and know the truth b. you are mafia and bacon is your buttbuddy
as far as the wolf situation goes, it might be he wasn't mafia the way things are shaping up.
basically if jhammet isn't inspector than the real one needs to step up. the likely hood that it would have been kdogg is not that great (i'm pretty sure he was just killed off for being a thorough player compared to the rest of us) and wolf prob would have come forward once he saw he was going to die.
it would be nice to hear from others......
noage, ffym, mike d, bek.......what are you thoughts???
i'm just confused about why you are sticking up for bacon so much.......why do you care what he says about bacon????
now, if you are an innocent and jhamm comes back tomorrow and says you aren't, then you might want to be defensive, but i just don't see why you are being so adamant about bacons innocence unless:
a. you are really the inspector and know the truth b. you are mafia and bacon is your buttbuddy
as far as the wolf situation goes, it might be he wasn't mafia the way things are shaping up.
basically if jhammet isn't inspector than the real one needs to step up. the likely hood that it would have been kdogg is not that great (i'm pretty sure he was just killed off for being a thorough player compared to the rest of us) and wolf prob would have come forward once he saw he was going to die.
it would be nice to hear from others......
noage, ffym, mike d, bek.......what are you thoughts???
I wasn't defended Bacon. I was explaining my thought process when I switched my vote from him to Jham. In my response to JHammett, I laid out exactly why Bacon could be Mafia.
If you must know, I plan on voting for Bacon. I was just keeping quite until after the mafia made there hit. So there.
I know I am probably just shooting myself in the foot by doing this but I really want that damn run-off.
Bacon>>>EAP
EAP I picked you because you have no votes. I think you're probably innocent and in the case that someone else changes their vote to you I will change mine. I want to force the run-off.
When I Referee, I simply don't do the whack and give the answer until I have heard from both parties. However, there is no rule explicitly prohibiting it.
If a Referee gives an Inspector their answer before the Mafia reports their whack to end the Night... there is nothing procedurally to prevent that Inspector from reporting their findings.
I don't necessarily agree with this state of things, but that's how I understand it to be...
sorry, i read that as you didn't want to be associated with airline for two rounds.
You read it right. The two of us were the ones everyone was scrutinizing and I felt it best not to be associated with him. That might have been stupid on my part. I just found it strange. Maybe it was just coincidence.
I know I am probably just shooting myself in the foot by doing this but I really want that damn run-off.
Bacon>>>EAP
EAP I picked you because you have no votes. I think you're probably innocent and in the case that someone else changes their vote to you I will change mine. I want to force the run-off.
Votes Cast EAP >>> Bacon >>> Airline Jham >>> FFYM>>>SFA FFYM >>>Jham Bacon>>>SFA>>>EAP Airline>>EAP>>>Bacon noage >>> Airline Mike D >>> Bek>>>SFA Bek >>> Mike D SFA >>> Bacon>>>Jhammet
Left to Vote
if he was mafia and you were not, why wouldn't he keep his vote for you and simply feign carelessness?
This is the best question I've gotten on the subject. I can't speck for Bacon, so I don't know what he was thinking. If you look at the results, he still got what he wanted, which was Airline and me in a runoff.
As to me acting defensive, what am I suppose to do? I got put in a runoff with the possible Inspector and the person that, oddly enough, had been found innocent. The Inspector all but confirms that I'm guilty even after I point out how flawed his reasons were. I felt the need to defend myself and let the townspeople know that things were a little fishy.
If Jham is the inspector he is going to find me innocent and I'll apologize for giving him a hard time. If he says I'm guilty he is mafia. It's as simple as that.
Edit: Clarification
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Townspeople, you need to step it up and help me out!
I'm innocent. I don't know how else to deal with this but I promise before God and everyone reading.... I WILL ERASE MY INFOROO ACCOUNT IF I'M GUILTY. Let me repeat it, I WILL ERASE MY INFOROO ACCOUNT IF I'M GUILTY. Just one more time, I WILL ERASE MY INFOROO ACCOUNT IF I'M GUILTY.
Like I said above... SFA>>> Bacon
To my fellow townspeople... We can't make a mistake this round or we will lose. Why did you sign up to play if you aren't going to add anything to the discussion? Somebody help me out!!!
Guys I'm telling you Jha was not the inspector and I am innocent. Claiming to be inspector and then killing yourself is the oldest trick in the book. I have a feeling nothing I am going to say is going to sway any opinions though.
Let me just say this, please look at some of the things I have done and I think its pretty obvious I am not Mafia. In the second round why would I have fought so hard to get a run-off between SFA and Airline attracting attention and votes for myself. I even changed my vote and put myself in a position that I could have been put in the run-off. If i were Mafia that would have been a really risky and stupid thing to do.
Another thing I think is kinda weird is the death video the mafia picked. Would the mafia really pick a video that portrayed Jha as a cop if he were really the inspector. It seems to me that they were subliminally trying to make us think Jha is inspector while he is really mafia.
I have no idea who to vote for nor do I think it matters.
