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Post by Vw'ndeadchick on Feb 27, 2011 15:07:06 GMT -5
social experiment: I enter any business in order to obtain services of any kind. After a reasonable stay all services/transactions between myself and said business are rendered complete. I now refuse to leave stating, "how do you suppose I get home from here?" This question is directed at any employee, and my problems are now magically deferred to you/said business. I simply explain, I did not provide myself with a ride nor the means to assume one. I am offended and or refuse the prospect of a social services consult (i.e. police/social worker) To which you answer?
clearly a hypothetical, just wondering what your thoughts on this are
I say,"You leave the same way you got here. Oh, you arrived by EMS? Well, then for another $500 we can have EMS take you home." It is not the facility's responsibility to find you away to get home. Some facilities have services they use to transport low income individuals, but if you are an asshole I would not offer that service to you.
I am not really sure what you are asking in the thread, but I will take this time to get on my soap box. People need to take responsibility for their actions. If you are at the playground and you fall and break your arm, you do not sue the playground, or who ever made the playground equipment, or the weather man, because he said it would be sunny today and it was overcast and the monkey bar blended into the gray sky and you could not see it and now you have a broken arm. People need to take responsibility for themselves. If you spend your life eating fast food and smoking cigarettes your whole life, you will die an early death. There is not"pill" no "procedure" to heal you. We are franticly trying to find that, but for now there is not. AMERICA STOP EATING SO MUCH!!! and yes I include myself in there as well. I eat too much. People need to stop depending on everyone else to help them out. You got here, we fixed you, now figure out how to get back home.
Post by Vw'ndeadchick on Mar 2, 2011 16:23:36 GMT -5
I honestly wasn't looking for anything out of this thread other than opinion. At what point is it socially acceptable to relinquish all responsibility of self and accountability for your own needs and actions? Thank you for your responses.
I do have to disagree with sending anyone that arrives by ems home via ems, its not an acceptable use of community resources. Someone could sincerely need that ambulance while it was simultaneously being used as a taxi service.
I honestly wasn't looking for anything out of this thread other than opinion. At what point is it socially acceptable to relinquish all responsibility of self and accountability for your own needs and actions? Thank you for your responses.
I do have to disagree with sending anyone that arrives by ems home via ems, its not an acceptable use of community resources. Someone could sincerely need that ambulance while it was simultaneously being used as a taxi service.
There was sarcasm in my post about using EMS to give people rides home at $500, but if my work could make a profit on that they might reconsider. My point was, it is the hospital's job to help you, to fix you, to make you well, but it is not their job to find you a ride home. Some facilities will help with that, but one should not expect it. I do not think it is ever socially acceptable to relinquish all responsibility of self and accountability for your own needs and actions, maybe when you become a harm to others. (I would put harm to self in that statement, but I think if you want to harm yourself you should be able to.) At times, we all all need someone to help us out, but we also must take responsibilities for ourselves and our actions. When you are not able to do that, I think you become a burden to society, and hinder the development of our species. If you are always take, take, take, and you do not have anything to offer society, why are you here? What purpose do you serve on the planet? This is a big problem I see in the American culture. Especially in the younger kids coming up. Too many people have the belief that,"As an American, I am entitled to this." This is my right" Blah, blah, blah. NO, We all make our own beds, and we all must sleep in them. Learn to take responsibility for your actions, society is not your mother.
I have a huge problem with people using EMS as a transportation service. This type of abuse contributes to healthcare costs and affects everyone. And I see it happen every shift I work.
Are self-responsibility and self-reliance lost arts? I have to wonder.
If you tie a child's shoes for him/her every day or buy velcro shoes, how will the child ever learn to tie his/her shoes? Likewise, when we enable this type of behavior, we lessen the probability that the individual will become self-reliant.
I honestly think some nights at work that I am working to counter Mr. Darwin's theories.
Around here, we would just make a phone call to Delta HRA, and they would come and get you and take you home. They are a free public transportation service for people who are (truly) without the means of transportation. They will arrange to take you to school / work / doctors office / etc, but not to and from the grocery store.
However, if I was working at a grocery store (that actually had a closing time), I would simply tell you that you are free to stay until closing time, and after that, you will have to leave the store, what you do from there is up to you.
It is completely unacceptable to expect a privately owned business to accommodate your transportation needs, without having discussed the matter previously. Furthermore, refusing to leave, and expecting a business, or employee representing said business, to provide you with a service beyond their normally offered services could be considered loitering, or even disturbing the peace. Rejecting personal responsibilities that you are physically and mentally capable of performing is simply social abuse.